CF infused Torrified shafts.

someday i will have enough to buy a nice cue then i can maybe even put a picture of it up.

making money has always been a game for me. having it is a side effect of being good at it.
and not an important part of life if you are happy.

the point you missed was that the weaker players look to equipment for improving rather than improving by learning and playing.
and they rarely get better using that method.
 
garczar said:
GAS exists in just about everything that requires a tool/implement/instrument to perform. Its HUGE in golf, people have been trying to buy a golf game since the game began. Pool is no different, i know more than one with 'poolGAS'. That 'new cue high' doesn't last long. The euphoria fades after a short time and one returns to their normal level of play. Its 100% mental and would be nice if you could bottle-n-sell it.
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I was a Sunoco 260 player way back. 🤣
 
garczar said:
No. CF tube/rod down the center. That's what Oscar said and he uses that shaft. They aren't weaving cf fabric between the plys. Near impossible to do.
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Quick question. I hate to dig up this thread, but its less than a year old and don't wanna flood the forums with excessive topics.

On both the Lucasi and Pure X, when it comes to the tip end of the shaft, is the front end hollowed out like predator etc etc, then a cf tube, then hollow, or do they fill that void up front with foam? I am thinking about the Mezz HPII, or the new Predator Centro, where I believe the inside of the CF tube in the front of the shaft is hollow.

As always, thanks for the info everyone.
 
fram6878 said:
Quick question. I hate to dig up this thread, but its less than a year old and don't wanna flood the forums with excessive topics.

On both the Lucasi and Pure X, when it comes to the tip end of the shaft, is the front end hollowed out like predator etc etc, then a cf tube, then hollow, or do they fill that void up front with foam? I am thinking about the Mezz HPII, or the new Predator Centro, where I believe the inside of the CF tube in the front of the shaft is hollow.

As always, thanks for the info everyone.
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on older Lucasi/purex shafts they only used
light material under the ferrule, they don't hollow out the shaft. I don't think they do that either on the new carbon infuze shafts with the short ferrule.
 
fram6878 said:
Quick question. I hate to dig up this thread, but its less than a year old and don't wanna flood the forums with excessive topics.

On both the Lucasi and Pure X, when it comes to the tip end of the shaft, is the front end hollowed out like predator etc etc, then a cf tube, then hollow, or do they fill that void up front with foam? I am thinking about the Mezz HPII, or the new Predator Centro, where I believe the inside of the CF tube in the front of the shaft is hollow.

As always, thanks for the info everyone.
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Don't know the answer to this. I got the kielwood version and the hit is nice and solid. Mine is a bit on the heavy side at 4.3oz. I understand that it's not the norm, I wish it was a bit lighter.
 
Appreciate both of y’all’s inputs. I’m just getting back into the game after a 5-6 year hiatus. I still have a ton of the original OB shafts but was hoping I could find something newer, still in production. I shot with a Pure X 12mm Kielwood last night, and it played well and I liked the taper.

Again, thanks.


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fram6878 said:
Quick question. I hate to dig up this thread, but its less than a year old and don't wanna flood the forums with excessive topics.

On both the Lucasi and Pure X, when it comes to the tip end of the shaft, is the front end hollowed out like predator etc etc, then a cf tube, then hollow, or do they fill that void up front with foam? I am thinking about the Mezz HPII, or the new Predator Centro, where I believe the inside of the CF tube in the front of the shaft is hollow.

As always, thanks for the info everyone.
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I've read of some that fill the end with a dense foam. Calling it proprietary tech. One company has applied for a patent. Don't ask me how you'd get one for that. I think it also includes the special ferrule design as well. That might fly.
 
fram6878 said:
On both the Lucasi and Pure X, when it comes to the tip end of the shaft, is the front end hollowed out like predator etc etc, then a cf tube, then hollow, or do they fill that void up front with foam? I am thinking about the Mezz HPII, or the new Predator Centro, where I believe the inside of the CF tube in the front of the shaft is hollow.
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For what its worth, a YouTube review of the Pure X Kielwood FUZE shaft states the carbon-fiber rod goes from ferrule to joint. YouTuber CueMan Teddy B says you can even see the carbon fiber at the joint end.

CueMan Teddy B discusses the carbon-fiber placement at 13 minutes into the video:

Let's talk about the carbon fiber infused part. So most shafts when they are carbon-fiber infused that typically means like you know they'll put carbon fiber tubing from like right here to about maybe about this far into the shaft itself (pointing to immediately below ferrule to about five inches distant). Like say, for example, the G-core shaft. But no, no, no, no, no, not this one. This one is all carbon-fiber tubing from where the ferrule starts all the way to here. If you look right in there, you can see the where the carbon fiber meets the phenolic joint.​

See PureX Keilwood Fuze & CF INFuzed Shaft Full Review by Billiard Chronicles w/CueMan and @SavannahEaston, June 27, 2025 at
 
Paul_#_ said:
For what its worth, a YouTube review of the Pure X Kielwood FUZE shaft states the carbon-fiber rod goes from ferrule to joint. YouTuber CueMan Teddy B says you can even see the carbon fiber at the joint end.

CueMan Teddy B discusses the carbon-fiber placement at 13 minutes into the video:

Let's talk about the carbon fiber infused part. So most shafts when they are carbon-fiber infused that typically means like you know they'll put carbon fiber tubing from like right here to about maybe about this far into the shaft itself (pointing to immediately below ferrule to about five inches distant). Like say, for example, the G-core shaft. But no, no, no, no, no, not this one. This one is all carbon-fiber tubing from where the ferrule starts all the way to here. If you look right in there, you can see the where the carbon fiber meets the phenolic joint.​

See PureX Keilwood Fuze & CF INFuzed Shaft Full Review by Billiard Chronicles w/CueMan and @SavannahEaston, June 27, 2025 at
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I don’t see any carbon at the joint, maybe it depends on the joint type.

I compared today the inFuze kielwood shaft to my Revo 12.9. Both have the same tip (kamui clear tan hard, which I think I don’t like that much).
Bottom line, personally I prefer the Revo. Less cue ball deflection, more power. Smoother in the hand, better balance on my various butts (the inFuze I got is 4.3oz and it’s too heavy for me).
The Kielwood does look better than carbon….
 
skor said:
I don’t see any carbon at the joint, maybe it depends on the joint type.
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Fuze shaft joint end w CF perhaps.jpg

This is the Pure X Kielwood FUZE joint from the YouTube video at 14:09. It's likely not carbon-fiber rod shown given that it practically extends to the surface and it encases the joint:
 
Mensabum said:
I was a Sunoco 260 player way back. 🤣
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I became a Sunoco 260 consumer back in 1968 when I bought my 1st car after graduating college.
It was a 1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi that boosted the HP over the 440 engine by 50 horses.

Bought it at Reidman’s in Pennslyvania. Drove down for Brooklyn, picked a car from their huge lots
and drive home that night with a kick-ass fun car to drive. It sounds like a dream vehicle for car buffs.

Years later as I reflected on my early years of life I came to regret buying that MOPAR muscle car. One
reason is MOPAR came out with the challger hemi and the Cuda hemi and both were much lighter cars.
The hole shot advantage they had was insurmountable unless I switched to a 411 rear end. But the main
reason was my 2nd choice auto I was strongly considering. It was a Shelby 1968GTKR but I chose MOPAR.

If I turn back time and could have either car right now, I wouldn’t be disappointed with either but boy, that
Shelby Mustang ‘s value blows away the Dodge Charger and frankly, still resembles today’s Mustang body.

I took home a lot of trophies & cash from pit bets competing at Raceway Park in New Jersey from ‘69-‘72
with my 426 Hemi. It was spacious, fast and sleek body styling but that Shelby King Cobra still haunts me.
 
Just got word my KW shafts and one other a friend ordered right after I told him about my order, ship on Monday.
I had the cue maker ship the 3 KW shafts as one delivery to my friend’s house where someone is home all the time.
Once he gets the shafts, I’ll connect with him next week at the pool hall that we both have annual memberships.
 
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