Chalk talk...
- Thread starter TimFXF
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blue is the most popular...i you were really anal about keeping your cloth clean then i guess you would buy green chalk but ur still gonna have ppl bring there own blue chalk.
TimFXF said:
I own a pool room, and put both colors out for use with the tables. My tables are covered in Simonis 860, they are brushed and vacuumed every day, and Blue or Green chalk really has no effect on the cloth or keeping the tables clean.
I will say that Blue and Green are the only colors I allow my customers to use. Other colors like Red, Black, and even Brown or Grey are much more difficult to clean and in my opinion serve no real purpose unless your cloth matches those colors.
Hope this helps, and have a great night!!!!
Yes if the chalk color matches the cloth it's not easy to see but the cloth is not clean. The other day I went to play some billiards and the table looked like it had been cleaned but the balls told me NO. I went to the back room got a wet white towel and started to clean the table. The counter lady said hey I just cleaned that. I showed her the towel which was now blue. You see, I believe that she tried to clean the cloth but used a dirty blue towel. The table looked good but she really only spread it around nice and even.
what do you mean "the ball told me different" do the ball roll weird on dirty cloth
I don't think I've ever noticed a huge difference in chalk on table friction. I guess when I mess up I figure its me. Now what I DO notice is when people leave huge white talc hand prints on the table. THAT is rediculously angering. or the worst of the worse... when I had BEER BOTTLE CONDENSATION CIRCLES on my favorite practice table... T_T
But overall, I think same color for table and chalk is a good think cus it looks a little better, but I don't use enough chalk to leave noticeable marks and I play at Eddie's where its blue chalk on green felt.
But overall, I think same color for table and chalk is a good think cus it looks a little better, but I don't use enough chalk to leave noticeable marks and I play at Eddie's where its blue chalk on green felt.
Vote for Brown
I could understand you not wanting Red or Black. But why do you feel brown is harder
to clean. I use brown and my buddy uses blue we are pretty much the only ones that play on his table. I usually clean the table. I have never noticed more of a problem with one color over the other. There are a lot of players that perfer brown to make their stick look cleaner. To me that serves a purpose.
I could understand you not wanting Red or Black. But why do you feel brown is harder
to clean. I use brown and my buddy uses blue we are pretty much the only ones that play on his table. I usually clean the table. I have never noticed more of a problem with one color over the other. There are a lot of players that perfer brown to make their stick look cleaner. To me that serves a purpose.
Thanks
Thanks for the replies - although I haven't seen Klopek's keys - have any of you?
The reason I asked is I play at a bar that has green cloth. The vendor (not the bar owner) is supposed to supply the cues, chalk and the like. Since it's like pulling teeth to get decent chalk there, I was going to buy a box of Master chalk for use by the group of reprobates (aka my friends) that we’d keep in a safe place. Since I rarely see green chalk I was wondering if there was something taboo about it. Judging by the response here (keys not withstanding), I’d say I should just go ahead and buy green master chalk.
I once brought a cube of my Silver Cup blue chalk (I have navy blue cloth) to the bar. After a firm hit the chalk “splatter” looked almost brown on the table. Very bizarre.
Tim
Thanks for the replies - although I haven't seen Klopek's keys
- have any of you?The reason I asked is I play at a bar that has green cloth. The vendor (not the bar owner) is supposed to supply the cues, chalk and the like. Since it's like pulling teeth to get decent chalk there, I was going to buy a box of Master chalk for use by the group of reprobates (aka my friends) that we’d keep in a safe place. Since I rarely see green chalk I was wondering if there was something taboo about it. Judging by the response here (keys not withstanding), I’d say I should just go ahead and buy green master chalk.
I once brought a cube of my Silver Cup blue chalk (I have navy blue cloth) to the bar. After a firm hit the chalk “splatter” looked almost brown on the table. Very bizarre.
Tim
TimFXF said:
what do you mean by "splatter"
SILVER__WOMBAT said:
He'd be referring to the way chalk gets thrown off the tip during contact with the cue ball. It is basically a small explosion of chalk off the tip which streaks in a line on the table on the same line that the with the contact stroke followed.
I have green cloth on my table, I use green chalk. Blue chalk is also good and is easy with green cloth. I also use green chalk when I play on blue cloth, again not enough of a difference to cause grief. However, as stated above, red chalk on green or blue cloth gets bad, the table ends up looking like the inside of a crayon box. Same for blue chalk on a red covered table.
rackem said:I could understand you not wanting Red or Black. But why do you feel brown is harder
Well, I have to agree with you that it will help keep your cue clean, However, when used, the way chalk is used by the average player in a pool room it make a big mess. For this same reason, I also do not put hand chalk out for use, in stead, I have gloves people can use.
david hodges
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My Observation about chalk color after more than 100,000 cleanings is this. I am talking about tournament play where you can see results very fast. On blue cloth, blue chalk works the best. On green cloth, Blue chalk works the best. On most other colors like red, camel, black try and get chalk that matches that cloth color. I find that Master chalk makes less mess.
Blue Master chalk is the best. Green Master is substandard in my opinion. There was a thread on this about 1 year ago which confirmed this.
> I have experimented with and analyzed everything I've ever noticed about the chalk over the years.
> The Blue Master now is different that it was 5 years ago or so,by that I mean slightly inferior in it's covering properties. I picked up on it before I even joined here. I read somewhere,maybe here,more recently than the actual change,where it was something they took out maybe due to EPA regulations or something like that. Whatever it was,it affected us negatively,much like the banning of asbestos based Micarta,popular as a ferrule material.
> The tables at the old-timer's room here were covered for the longest time in tan shag carpet,or at least it looked like it compared to the camel Simonis. Back then,the only chalk he ever bought was the old,cheesy National Tournament chalk in the red wrapper with gold lettering. Anyone here that has been playing for 15-20 years can tell you how bad this stuff was,and the tan was even worse. I refused to use it,I was serious about improving,and wasn't going to hear the owner telling me to use something I honestly felt was inferior. So,I kept using the blue Master. He eventually kicked me out for a month for it,and by then I had discovered the tan Triangle. It was much better,and kept me in the place.
> Some people wil disagree,including supposedly the companies that make it,but I am convinced that the pigments used to turn it different colors affect the quality of the end product.
> The red Master covers really nice,but it's extremely messy,so I don't use it,and at times dread cleaning the shafts of people that use it regularly by choice or are forced to use it.
> The light green Master doesn't cover very well at all,I think it sucks.
> The aforementioned tan Triangle,and the blue as well,are really nice,and it surprises me it's not more popular than it is.
> I got this chalk from Steepleton Billiards once that was about like the old Master and Triangle that had a red wrapper and a club shape on the side. Good stuff there.
> My personal preference ever since I got the first box from Nick Varner,is the blue wrapped,PBT logoed,National Tournament Chalk,from the same company that made the bad stuff I mentioned earlier,of all people. It's just a little softer than the old Master,before the change,so it covers the tip better. The stuff I have is old enough that it still had whatever they took out of the Master. I got a 12 piece box from Nick at the U.S. Open in 1994,another a month or so later at at exhibition,and ordered 2 gross from Don Mackey's wife at the PBT office a week later,and have been hording it ever since,to the point of me getting it out of the house after it burnt. I managed to save about 1/2 of what I had left,and always have 3-4 fresh ones with me,and have had since then. I usually peel the wrapper back about 1/16 or so once or twice before I just leave it somewhere. This same chalk is still being made I think,but usually in a Camel logo or APA logo wrapper,same company.
My personal chalk looks different than most,I tend to brush it on towards the sides,leaving high spots in the corners. MOST people see my chalk and think to themselves "man,this guy is using some bulls**t" and either pick it up then refuse to use it,or will take it off the table,some have even thrown it away,or said something to me about it. Maybe it's not the same way now,but to a large percentage of regulars or even recreational or league players,anything but Masters is thought of as "cheap".
> Never had anything but bad experiences with Silver Cup,Pioneer is horrible,along with anything at Wal-Mart or sporting goods stores. Tommy D.
> The Blue Master now is different that it was 5 years ago or so,by that I mean slightly inferior in it's covering properties. I picked up on it before I even joined here. I read somewhere,maybe here,more recently than the actual change,where it was something they took out maybe due to EPA regulations or something like that. Whatever it was,it affected us negatively,much like the banning of asbestos based Micarta,popular as a ferrule material.
> The tables at the old-timer's room here were covered for the longest time in tan shag carpet,or at least it looked like it compared to the camel Simonis. Back then,the only chalk he ever bought was the old,cheesy National Tournament chalk in the red wrapper with gold lettering. Anyone here that has been playing for 15-20 years can tell you how bad this stuff was,and the tan was even worse. I refused to use it,I was serious about improving,and wasn't going to hear the owner telling me to use something I honestly felt was inferior. So,I kept using the blue Master. He eventually kicked me out for a month for it,and by then I had discovered the tan Triangle. It was much better,and kept me in the place.
> Some people wil disagree,including supposedly the companies that make it,but I am convinced that the pigments used to turn it different colors affect the quality of the end product.
> The red Master covers really nice,but it's extremely messy,so I don't use it,and at times dread cleaning the shafts of people that use it regularly by choice or are forced to use it.
> The light green Master doesn't cover very well at all,I think it sucks.
> The aforementioned tan Triangle,and the blue as well,are really nice,and it surprises me it's not more popular than it is.
> I got this chalk from Steepleton Billiards once that was about like the old Master and Triangle that had a red wrapper and a club shape on the side. Good stuff there.
> My personal preference ever since I got the first box from Nick Varner,is the blue wrapped,PBT logoed,National Tournament Chalk,from the same company that made the bad stuff I mentioned earlier,of all people. It's just a little softer than the old Master,before the change,so it covers the tip better. The stuff I have is old enough that it still had whatever they took out of the Master. I got a 12 piece box from Nick at the U.S. Open in 1994,another a month or so later at at exhibition,and ordered 2 gross from Don Mackey's wife at the PBT office a week later,and have been hording it ever since,to the point of me getting it out of the house after it burnt. I managed to save about 1/2 of what I had left,and always have 3-4 fresh ones with me,and have had since then. I usually peel the wrapper back about 1/16 or so once or twice before I just leave it somewhere. This same chalk is still being made I think,but usually in a Camel logo or APA logo wrapper,same company.
My personal chalk looks different than most,I tend to brush it on towards the sides,leaving high spots in the corners. MOST people see my chalk and think to themselves "man,this guy is using some bulls**t" and either pick it up then refuse to use it,or will take it off the table,some have even thrown it away,or said something to me about it. Maybe it's not the same way now,but to a large percentage of regulars or even recreational or league players,anything but Masters is thought of as "cheap".
> Never had anything but bad experiences with Silver Cup,Pioneer is horrible,along with anything at Wal-Mart or sporting goods stores. Tommy D.
OK, let me see if I've got this right...
Nobody has seen Klopek's keys???
Brown is not bad.
I need a better definition of chalk splatter... No. Actually xidica handled that for me quite nicely. Thanks X.
Dave Hodges says... "On blue cloth, blue chalk works the best. On green cloth, Blue chalk works the best." Which kinda leads me to believe that he prefers... ummmm... Blue chalk.
TennesseeJoe says... "Blue Master chalk is the best"
Well Hell!... Blue Master chalk it is!!!
Sorry Klopek. I guess you'll have to walk home. If I find your keys, I'll drop them in a mailbox.
Thanks to all!
Nobody has seen Klopek's keys???
Brown is not bad.
I need a better definition of chalk splatter... No. Actually xidica handled that for me quite nicely. Thanks X.
Dave Hodges says... "On blue cloth, blue chalk works the best. On green cloth, Blue chalk works the best." Which kinda leads me to believe that he prefers... ummmm... Blue chalk.
TennesseeJoe says... "Blue Master chalk is the best"
Well Hell!... Blue Master chalk it is!!!
Sorry Klopek. I guess you'll have to walk home. If I find your keys, I'll drop them in a mailbox.
Thanks to all!