Which reminds me.....If 1-P was played on smaller tables the balls would reach their destination sooner, thus speeding up the game.
nyah,
Jeff Livingston
Change.org's Petition to remove all bar tables in the world
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Which reminds me.....If 1-P was played on smaller tables the balls would reach their destination sooner, thus speeding up the game.
nyah,
Jeff Livingston
Lol chill out bro. Do you think I really want to burn all 7 foot tables? That sounds like a nearly impossible task. I never knew trolling would be this much headache. How does me poking a little fun translate to me thinking I'm smarter than everyone?
While I do have a gripe against bar tables on a PROFESSIONAL level, I certainly wouldn't want it to be taken away from casual players that don't have the luxury of 9 footers in their area, nor would I want to take money out of any pro's pocket.
Once again, my main concern is 7 foot tables and/or tournaments that are hurting the evolution of our American player's talent. If all they play on are bar tables just to secure their next meal, how can they possibly compete with Asia and Europe?
Please don't take my bar box away! I use it to fold my laundry on and it also doubles as my X-mas gift wrapping station!
Try playing English pub 8-ball (blackball), there are plenty of those small tables in the UK and players like Jayson Shaw and Darren Appleton who started out on those are clearly garbage.
Actually I think it's that Euros develop much better strokes early on by learning on the 9-ft tables (or snooker in the UK) and by the time they become monster players actually travelling to the US to lay barbox tournaments like USBTC, their overall pool IQ and skillset is so good they have no problem cleaning up the more cluttered barbox. But go take a B level player who has only ever played 9' tables though and throw them on barbox 8-ball, and they'll struggle to get out the same as a barbox specialist.
Americans typically are introduced to the barbox and even as they learn to run racks and learn the game really well, if they're not putting in the time on a big table they'll have less incentive to correct small flaws in their fundamentals that never affected their barbox game. It's not fatal, they'll just have to work harder and practice more to be as competitive on the big stage.
Please don't take my bar box away! I use it to fold my laundry on and it also doubles as my X-mas gift wrapping station!
thats folk art not a bar box
Wow, look at all these grumpy old fogies. I bet an Obama joke would go over better with this crowd. I bet these are the same guys who go to tournaments to railbird and steal a chair from a player who actually came to play and spend money on food, while they do viagra drug deals in the little huddles (blocking view of the matches) and only buy water and coffee.
I'm not exactly sure what people are expecting when they come here, seeing as how Kris throws some light-hearted humor into things and he's constantly shat on by people. I don't see anything wrong with making fun of things. Builds community when we all share a common interest and are able to poke fun at things. And I've been a forum member for a while now, there's no shortage of hypocrisy in here. I've seen several people here incessantly complain about something in the past. How about you take your own advice and leave it alone if you don't like it?
It's amazing. When I spend time doing the thing I love (pool) instead of talking about it on the internet, I seem to love the game more and have to deal with WAAAY less B.S.
I'm not exactly sure what people are expecting when they come here, seeing as how Kris throws some light-hearted humor into things and he's constantly shat on by people. I don't see anything wrong with making fun of things. Builds community when we all share a common interest and are able to poke fun at things. And I've been a forum member for a while now, there's no shortage of hypocrisy in here. I've seen several people here incessantly complain about something in the past. How about you take your own advice and leave it alone if you don't like it?
It's amazing. When I spend time doing the thing I love (pool) instead of talking about it on the internet, I seem to love the game more and have to deal with WAAAY less B.S.
I refuse to play on the Kiddie tables.
Just turned down an invitation to play on my best friend's new league team.
He's an accomplished player much better than I am & he enjoys all size tables.
Personally, the harder the table, the more I enjoy playing on it.
My all time favorite table to play on is a 10' table with 4 1/2" pockets (4 3/8" on 9').
It is the differentiation point when it comes to skills and stroke flaws quickly show up.
The same player that might beat you in a game (or handicapped race) on a 7' table
would get destroyed by a stronger player when competing on a 10' table. The only
way to truly find out is go play for 45 mins on a 10' table.......then spend 45 mins on
a 7' table. It is akin to doing addition & subtraction after just doing advanced calculus.
I find 7' tables unappealing & so much easier with less surface area, generally larger
pockets.....and yes I have played on lots of Diamond 7' tables too....and less difficulty.
The offset is the clusters that can occur but that's of little concern having played so
much straight pool in my life.......play the angles with center ball and use English
only as needed....,,,more stop and stun shots due to table size.......nope, you can recite
all the pros that play on 7'tables and it doesn't matter a bit........the tables are just easier
and I am looking for just the opposite......more difficult tables.
I'm trying to convince my best friend to reduce the pocket size on the front tables in his
pool room to 4 3/8" and also change the rails on the snooker table to pocket billiards so
there'd be a 10' pool table. His pool hall is the coolest room in Fresno and having an old
school table like the US Open Championships used to be played on would be so sweet.
Would you believe the high-run in tournaments before 1947 was 127 balls on 10 ft tables?
Held by Jimmy Caras and Willie Mosconi. Today's top players on 9' tables can pocket runs
of 200 balls or more. Heck, on a 8' table, Willie once ran 526 back in 1954 on a smaller table.
On a smaller table, the game becomes easier......the records established in pool attest to this.
9' is harder than 7' & the piece de resistance is a 10' table where past champions of yesteryear
waged battle........the US, Open Championship used to be a round robin format down to the last
two standing who then embarked on a series of matches in different cities across the USA in a
race to 2500 points. Willie's records in U.S. Open Championship play set the height of the bar.
I do not like 7' pool tables and if it meant playing only on a 7' table or nothing, I would never have
started collecting cues & I'd be playing a lot less pool for sure. Kiddie tables.are not my cup of tea.
Matt B.
Just turned down an invitation to play on my best friend's new league team.
He's an accomplished player much better than I am & he enjoys all size tables.
Personally, the harder the table, the more I enjoy playing on it.
My all time favorite table to play on is a 10' table with 4 1/2" pockets (4 3/8" on 9').
It is the differentiation point when it comes to skills and stroke flaws quickly show up.
The same player that might beat you in a game (or handicapped race) on a 7' table
would get destroyed by a stronger player when competing on a 10' table. The only
way to truly find out is go play for 45 mins on a 10' table.......then spend 45 mins on
a 7' table. It is akin to doing addition & subtraction after just doing advanced calculus.
I find 7' tables unappealing & so much easier with less surface area, generally larger
pockets.....and yes I have played on lots of Diamond 7' tables too....and less difficulty.
The offset is the clusters that can occur but that's of little concern having played so
much straight pool in my life.......play the angles with center ball and use English
only as needed....,,,more stop and stun shots due to table size.......nope, you can recite
all the pros that play on 7'tables and it doesn't matter a bit........the tables are just easier
and I am looking for just the opposite......more difficult tables.
I'm trying to convince my best friend to reduce the pocket size on the front tables in his
pool room to 4 3/8" and also change the rails on the snooker table to pocket billiards so
there'd be a 10' pool table. His pool hall is the coolest room in Fresno and having an old
school table like the US Open Championships used to be played on would be so sweet.
Would you believe the high-run in tournaments before 1947 was 127 balls on 10 ft tables?
Held by Jimmy Caras and Willie Mosconi. Today's top players on 9' tables can pocket runs
of 200 balls or more. Heck, on a 8' table, Willie once ran 526 back in 1954 on a smaller table.
On a smaller table, the game becomes easier......the records established in pool attest to this.
9' is harder than 7' & the piece de resistance is a 10' table where past champions of yesteryear
waged battle........the US, Open Championship used to be a round robin format down to the last
two standing who then embarked on a series of matches in different cities across the USA in a
race to 2500 points. Willie's records in U.S. Open Championship play set the height of the bar.
I do not like 7' pool tables and if it meant playing only on a 7' table or nothing, I would never have
started collecting cues & I'd be playing a lot less pool for sure. Kiddie tables.are not my cup of tea.
Matt B.
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If you can only top at 127 for decades playing on a 10' table and then you have runs nearly 3x that
and often table run-outs of 150 balls playing on a 9' table.......and then more than 500 balls on a 8',
ya gotta think the smaller the table the easier the game becomes. Willie had runs of 526 (8' table)
but had runs of 365, 355, 322, 309 & regularly ran 150 & out on a 9' table but only 127 balls on 10'.
I respectively submit the proof is in the established records.......and by firsthand experience as well.
http://www.thehypertexts.com/Pool Billiards record high runs.htm
and often table run-outs of 150 balls playing on a 9' table.......and then more than 500 balls on a 8',
ya gotta think the smaller the table the easier the game becomes. Willie had runs of 526 (8' table)
but had runs of 365, 355, 322, 309 & regularly ran 150 & out on a 9' table but only 127 balls on 10'.
I respectively submit the proof is in the established records.......and by firsthand experience as well.
http://www.thehypertexts.com/Pool Billiards record high runs.htm
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His comment on the red rep said "bad form". LOL.
Soooooo you red rep people for being annoying? It's not like I'm insulting anyone or using derogatory terms towards someone, I'm just making fun of bar tables....
Fun Fact: I play on a bar table once every other week when I go to the barbershop...Still hate them for the fact that they hinder American players from competing on the world stage.
Here in NYC, there is no shortage of 9 footers
Don't worry, when Donald Trump wins I'm sure he'll see my petition and create a wall to keep all bar tables away from America.
I said that he probably red-repped you for being annoying. Don't lead people to the conclusion that I red-repped you when you know I didn't.
Kris tried to checkmate me with his White Knight.
Attachments
You should be present at the debates.
Hilary: I believe that blah blah blah, and blah blah blah.
AtLarge: Well actually, back in 1992 you claimed that blah blah blah and you were opposed to blah blah blah.
Trump: Oh I think we should get rid of yada yada yada.
AtLarge: What about that time when you were 3, sitting on Santa's lap at the mall on December 12th, and told him all you wanted was yada yada yada?
If you are going to make comparisons to yesteryear, don't cherry pick the facts just to suit your desired outcome. There was a lot more different back then than just the size of the tables. The size of the table was a small contributing factor, not the main and only factor.
And, that doesn't even cover the fact that your supposedly facts are misleading as well. For one, Mosconi's high run didn't count for the record, as neither did several other peoples high runs. All over 600 balls, all on the bigger 9' tables. Mosconi's 526 record is NOT the most balls ever run. And, the runs you state in the past are high runs in an actual game. Yet, you compare game runs in the past to practice runs in the present. Apples to oranges.
Go play on a 10" table and match your run performance......the real world experience counts more
than esoteric discussions about one's opinions. Facts are hard to dispute, although some seem inclined.
600 balls on a 9' table so what.....see what that translates into a 10" table run....100 balls...maybe?
This is kinda funny when most posting likely haven;t played much on a 10" table with tight pockets.
It is like talking about how you'd react & perform in combat when you've never personally experienced it.
Imagining and experiencing something are two different stark realities........Go out and get some on a 10'.
than esoteric discussions about one's opinions. Facts are hard to dispute, although some seem inclined.
600 balls on a 9' table so what.....see what that translates into a 10" table run....100 balls...maybe?
This is kinda funny when most posting likely haven;t played much on a 10" table with tight pockets.
It is like talking about how you'd react & perform in combat when you've never personally experienced it.
Imagining and experiencing something are two different stark realities........Go out and get some on a 10'.
If you insist on living in yesterday, you'll never do well living in today's world
Arthur "Babe" Cranfield, straight pool, 420 balls, in Syracuse on a 10' table, before a sizeable audience, per George Fels
sshhh....don't need no stinkin facts, man. We got us OPINIONS!