Changing the format just before the tournament

easy-e

easy-e

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Interested in your thoughts. Chip tournaments are pretty popular in my area. They also love scotch doubles here. A tournament was advertised for a scotch doubles chip tournament where the lower rated teams get more chips (based on your combined fargos). The higher tier was listed as “1200 and above get 5 chips”.

My partner and I get there and the TD tells us that someone already complained about us and he only allowed us to start with 4 chips. We are 1467 combined (mainly because of my partner 😬).

I drove 45 minutes to this place to find the rules changed to suit a complainer. I don’t mind starting with 4, unless I’m expecting 5. Am I just nitpicking here?
 
easy-e said:
Interested in your thoughts. Chip tournaments are pretty popular in my area. They also love scotch doubles here. A tournament was advertised for a scotch doubles chip tournament where the lower rated teams get more chips (based on your combined fargos). The higher tier was listed as “1200 and above get 5 chips”.

My partner and I get there and the TD tells us that someone already complained about us and he only allowed us to start with 4 chips. We are 1467 combined (mainly because of my partner 😬).

I drove 45 minutes to this place to find the rules changed to suit a complainer. I don’t mind starting with 4, unless I’m expecting 5. Am I just nitpicking here?
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Did anyone else get stuck with just 4 or was it only you? It may be nitpicking but I still don't think it's right.
 
If the change was made after it already started would be a legit complaint. Based on your combined skill levels, it sounds fair to me. How did you finish this time? How have the two of you finished In the past?
 
easy-e said:
Interested in your thoughts. Chip tournaments are pretty popular in my area. They also love scotch doubles here. A tournament was advertised for a scotch doubles chip tournament where the lower rated teams get more chips (based on your combined fargos). The higher tier was listed as “1200 and above get 5 chips”.

My partner and I get there and the TD tells us that someone already complained about us and he only allowed us to start with 4 chips. We are 1467 combined (mainly because of my partner 😬).

I drove 45 minutes to this place to find the rules changed to suit a complainer. I don’t mind starting with 4, unless I’m expecting 5. Am I just nitpicking here?
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did you win?
 
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buckshotshoey said:
If the change was made after it already started would be a legit complaint. Based on your combined skill levels, it sounds fair to me. How did you finish this time? How have the two of you finished I. The past?
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Before I tell you the results, I want to emphasize that I agree it’s fair for us to go to 4. I think that should have been considered when they made the format since we play together as often as we can. We won this week (it was the first one at this room). We’ve won others with 4 chips at another pool room. It’s bar table 9-ball, incoming team gets the break, so we only get to break like 3 times.
 
David in FL said:
I call bullshit on that kind of change. Tournament Director should’ve thought through the possibilities better than that.

Having said that, if you were a combined 1467, you probably should’ve been able to walk away with it with two chips!
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It’s tough when the other teams get all the breaks, we have to dodge a lot of land mines! I think last night we ended up 30-3.
 
easy-e said:
Before I tell you the results, I want to emphasize that I agree it’s fair for us to go to 4. I think that should have been considered when they made the format since we play together as often as we can. We won this week (it was the first one at this room). We’ve won others with 4 chips at another pool room. It’s bar table 9-ball, incoming team gets the break, so we only get to break like 3 times.
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Sounds like it was fair to me. Good job.
 
easy-e said:
Interested in your thoughts. Chip tournaments are pretty popular in my area. They also love scotch doubles here. A tournament was advertised for a scotch doubles chip tournament where the lower rated teams get more chips (based on your combined fargos). The higher tier was listed as “1200 and above get 5 chips”.

My partner and I get there and the TD tells us that someone already complained about us and he only allowed us to start with 4 chips. We are 1467 combined (mainly because of my partner 😬).

I drove 45 minutes to this place to find the rules changed to suit a complainer. I don’t mind starting with 4, unless I’m expecting 5. Am I just nitpicking here?
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1467 combined Fargo is pretty strong for a scotch doubles team. TD’s have a tough job, particularly with handicapping tournaments, and they try to do the best they can. It’s impossible to please everyone. In a tournament such as this, it sounds like the TD has to make a subjective decision based on the strength of all the players/teams. Hopefully the TD was not also participating in the tournament, which could be a clear conflict of interest?

Like someone else asked, how did you guys end up doing? If you didn’t win, one of the reasons may have been that you were too distracted with the handicaps and not focused on the game.
 
easy-e said:
Thanks, and I agree it’s fair. I just don’t like finding out it’s changed as I’m signing up.
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The change could have been made a week or more prior to you entering. You were just finding out about it. It probably wasn't a decision made as you were seen walking In the door.

Sometimes adjustments have to be made based on experience.
 
ChrisinNC said:
1467 combined Fargo is pretty strong for a scotch doubles team. TD’s have a tough job, particularly with handicapping tournaments, and they try to do the best they can. It’s impossible to please everyone. In a tournament such as this, it sounds like the TD has to make a subjective decision based on the strength of all the players/teams. Hopefully the TD was not also participating in the tournament, which could be a clear conflict of interest?

Like someone else asked, how did you guys end up doing? If you didn’t win, one of the reasons may have been that you were too distracted with the handicaps and not focused on the game.
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You missed it. Post #8.
 
ChrisinNC said:
1467 combined Fargo is pretty strong for a scotch doubles team. TD’s have a tough job, particularly with handicapping tournaments, and they try to do the best they can. It’s impossible to please everyone. In a tournament such as this, it sounds like the TD has to make a subjective decision based on the strength of all the players/teams. Hopefully the TD was not also participating in the tournament, which could be a clear conflict of interest?

Like someone else asked, how did you guys end up doing? If you didn’t win, one of the reasons may have been that you were too distracted with the handicaps and not focused on the game.
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We won. I think the TD should make those subjective decisions when they post the format. When he typed “1200 and above get 5 chips”, why didn’t he think about it?
 
easy-e said:
Interested in your thoughts. Chip tournaments are pretty popular in my area. They also love scotch doubles here. A tournament was advertised for a scotch doubles chip tournament where the lower rated teams get more chips (based on your combined fargos). The higher tier was listed as “1200 and above get 5 chips”.

My partner and I get there and the TD tells us that someone already complained about us and he only allowed us to start with 4 chips. We are 1467 combined (mainly because of my partner 😬).

I drove 45 minutes to this place to find the rules changed to suit a complainer. I don’t mind starting with 4, unless I’m expecting 5. Am I just nitpicking here?
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I dont think a team can be 1467 and it be "mainly because of my partner" LOL. I'm not hating. Even if SVB was you're partner you're still a 635 (in this scenario). You have a salty team. And yes you should have been annoyed with the changing of the rules.
 
MachineGunKelly said:
I dont think a team can be 1467 and it be "mainly because of my partner" LOL. I'm not hating. Even if SVB was you're partner you're still a 635 (in this scenario). You have a salty team. And yes you should have been annoyed with the changing of the rules.
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My partner does the heavy lifting! If I get him on the wrong side of the ball, he laughs and gets us back in line.😬
 
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