actually we are searching for a tip on vaccums for our billiard tables,does anyone have one they would reccomend we buy?thanks
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- Thread starter warren lee
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Yes someone give up the nuts on this one
Yes someone give up the nuts on this one
I think most any shop vac would do fine but what I'd like to see would be the proper attachment.
I want a pick-up attachment with a brush about 12" wide and long brush hairs. I want to be able to brush the table and vac the table with the same attachment.
The only long bristled brush attachment I can find is an upholstery attachment. It's only about 3" round/wide.
I want a pick-up attachment with a brush about 12" wide and long brush hairs. I want to be able to brush the table and vac the table with the same attachment.
The only long bristled brush attachment I can find is an upholstery attachment. It's only about 3" round/wide.
You can't go wrong with a Dyson Animal. . . . They actually come with an attachment for furniture and delicates, and have a long reach on them. I use my Dyson on my table and never had an issue.
In fact, I have taken over to friend's homes and used it on their tables just to show them what it is capable of. It literally sucks the chalk from the slate.
Believe me, they are worth the investment.
In fact, I have taken over to friend's homes and used it on their tables just to show them what it is capable of. It literally sucks the chalk from the slate.
Believe me, they are worth the investment.
:groucho::groucho::groucho::
I tried that and it does work. But all the suction is in a 1½" area in the center. I'm drilling multiple 3/16" holes in between the bristle clusters. Then I'm going to make some kind of dome to go over the back of the brush with a vacuum fitting. Just tinkering. If anyone else has done this speak up.
Andy
Andy
Interesting. What kind of dome are you envisioning?
How about using one of those bristless shop vac connections?!?! Drill all your hole, and then glue that connection to the back of the brush!! The glue will act as a sealer or gasket so you do not lose any suction.
I would take a pic of what I mean but I am at work................will do tonight.
Hey if this works we will form a limited partnership and make some cash!!!!!!!! LOL
Mike
I would take a pic of what I mean but I am at work................will do tonight.
Hey if this works we will form a limited partnership and make some cash!!!!!!!! LOL
Mike
I like the way you think... you already created the picture!! :groucho: :yeah:
k:I think that would work. I'll have to check to see if I have a shop vac accessory like you describe. I think I do.. it comes for sucking liquids I think.
Shop Vacs work great. I use this one:
Lowe's
Works great, plenty of suction but not too much that it lifts the cloth. Lowe's has a wider attachment that cost about $10 which gives more coverage with each pass than the narrow one that comes with most units. I switch to the narrow nozzle to do the rails.
The only thing is this particular model is a hand-held (you hold it in one hand and vacuum with the other). You could use it sitting on the floor with a longer hose, but it is not on wheels. Since you are doing multiple tables you may want one on wheels with a longer hose.
Most all shop vac type vacuums have plenty of power. Less is more as it says on the Simonis website - you're just lifting chalk dust, not picking up bowling balls.
I just make a slow pass in one direction from the head to the foot rail. About 8 passes covers the width and the table is done. Then I brush. Takes less than 5 minutes.
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I have a couple of those I think. I don't like using them on the table (as in the post above yours) as the edges are rough.. no brush, and I worry that I'll snag the Simonis. But I like the idea of drilling out a brush and then attaching it to the wide attachment. All I have to do is figure out how to drill the brush and not lose the hairs. I'll have to look more closely at how the brush is made but memory says that it's done in "clumps" with some space between. I guess some of the clumps could be sacrificed and get more suction. I sure hate ruining a genuine horsehair brush. I think I paid about $30 for it. But I sure llike the idea of having a vac behind the brush.
I also use the new Simonis cleaning pad the X90 or something.. I forget the name. It does pick up the chalk but I still like vacumning the dirt, etc and then I finish with the Simonis gadget to get a brushed look. It puts a nice finish on the cloth.
I'll vouch that the vacuum works, I may not be an owner of a billiard room, however, I recently refelted a pool table here in Kandahar, Afghanistan with Simonis 860. It's really dusty here. In one day, enough dust falls on the table to leave a visible film that you can write your name on. I'm using a standard shopvac I mail ordered from Lowes. Picks up all the dust and chalk, even if I haven't cleaned the table in a week. Then I take a very wrung out damp rag and wipe it all down. These tables receive constant use, 24/7.
I bought an oreck stand up vac about 5 years ago from a pawn shop for $80.00. I pu in a bruch that was about half worn down so it would barely touch the felt. It works great. I know there are a lot of people that don't believe in a rotating brush but I swear by it as long as it. this vacuum only used on the table and taouches nothing else. Do not ever use one on tha floor and then on the table the table because you will have a mess. then once a week, I take some Downey in some water and wipe all the greens down. If you keep up with it, it will remove a lot of the ball marks and the ball track line under the cushion.
Hoover for the Garage
I use a Hoover Garage Vac mounted on an old soda cart like in the stores.
It has a 30 ft hose that covers my whole pool room of 8 tables.
Been using it for 6 yrs with no problems yet. the floor brush has 3/8th inch hairs on it, it works great and don`t lift the cloth up at all, and the crevise tool is perfect for under the rails and the ball box.
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highrun55
I use a Hoover Garage Vac mounted on an old soda cart like in the stores.
It has a 30 ft hose that covers my whole pool room of 8 tables.
Been using it for 6 yrs with no problems yet. the floor brush has 3/8th inch hairs on it, it works great and don`t lift the cloth up at all, and the crevise tool is perfect for under the rails and the ball box.
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highrun55
I use a craftsman 2 gallon wet/dry vac. and have had good luck with. I carry the vac in my left hand with a loop of ext cord and work the nozzle with my right, and work my way around the table. I have several attatchments and all of them I spray glued with simonis so the plastic doesn't touch the cloth. I used to take my vac and ball polisher with me when I went to league and do the tables. when something wouldnt come up easily I could just set the vacuum on the table and had an under-the-rail brush in my back pocket to loosen anything stubbornly trying to stay behind. I keep all my vac stuff in a plastic bin and use it for pool tables only so the base never gets dirty or contaminated etc. It sounds like these other guys have some good ideas also. I like the idea of the shop vac attatchments but I think the bigger wider one would be better for the brush attatching idea. The brush is not as wide as the hole so you would get the benefit of the chalk being able to be vacuumed AROUND the brush also, as most have a narrower middle section. Good luck, I'm of to tinker with this idea. report back later
Actually, I just found an attachment at Lowes that I'm now using for my shop-vac. It is a wide nozzle but unlike the other one I have, this one has short static (not rotating) bristles around it's edge. They're soft so they aren't damaging the cloth fibers but in addition to loosening dust as I vacuum, it raises the nozzle just enough off the surface so that it isn't sucked on to it. I think this has less chance to pull up the cloth, but it still has plenty of power to get all the chalk and dust out of the cloth.
vacumn cleaner
When I owned a room, I had these style vacumns, sure made things easy
http://www.vacuumcleaners.net/vacuum_cleaners/categories/backpack_vacuums_com.html
Good luck in your search
When I owned a room, I had these style vacumns, sure made things easy
http://www.vacuumcleaners.net/vacuum_cleaners/categories/backpack_vacuums_com.html
Good luck in your search