Clear Ferrule Finally Installed

ntlgntbng

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I've been waiting for quite a while to show this off. I decided to have a buddy of mine install a clear ferrule for me (clear polycarbonate rod that I purchased off Amazon) along with a Bulletproof AIM Super Soft tip.

I've completed 3 sets with it so far, and I am very impressed with the feel and consistency.

In case anyone has been thinking about doing this, I highly recommend it. I've included some pictures of it as well.

Happy to answer any questions.
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ntlgntbng

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No tenon?

Hey Bob. I believe the tenon and ferrule were threaded and capped to not expose it for a cleaner look and give the illusion of a floating tip. This was an extra Outlaw Kielwood shaft that I had which we decided to experiment with before we started on the Jacoby KW shaft that I use as my primary playing shaft. I sent him a text to confirm, so if I'm wrong I'll reply back.
 

Zerksies

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The clear look is damn sweet, Sad thing it's getting scratched one day killing that baby
 

Sheldon

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The tenon will be on the ferrule. Likely no threads, since that would make the wood extremely thin at the outer edge of the threads.
Similar to a "vault plate" on a carbon shaft. Except with a massive cap on it. Deflection will be a thing.
 
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ntlgntbng

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The clear look is damn sweet, Sad thing it's getting scratched one day killing that baby
He polished the hell out of that thing too. Looks looked clear as glass until I started shooting with it. Yes, if you zoom in under a high quality camera you can see the micro-scratches starting to appear. Not enough to warrant a pass with plastic polish yet, but I can foresee needing to stock up on it if I want to keep it looking like that.

The tenon will be on the ferrule. Likely no threads, since that would make the wood extremely thin at the outer edge of the threads.
Similar to a "vault plate" on a carbon shaft. Except with a massive cap on it. Definitely not low deflection.
I think you're right. I will find out for sure and get back to you guys. I haven't noticed a decline in any shot making capabilities so far.

Kind of useless like guys shopping for lights to put on their rims ....
Totally agree. No functional gain. Purely a vanity thing. While I do feel a difference, it is most likely a placebo affect. I don't have anything negative to say about it though. Shots go straight like they always have.
 

ntlgntbng

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The tenon will be on the ferrule. Likely no threads, since that would make the wood extremely thin at the outer edge of the threads.
Similar to a "vault plate" on a carbon shaft. Except with a massive cap on it. Deflection will be a thing.
Hey Sheldon, I did confirm that the tenon and ferrule are all one piece and it was bored into the shaft.
 

ntlgntbng

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The clear look is damn sweet, Sad thing it's getting scratched one day killing that baby

You can see the scratches in this picture. That was actually from someone knocking my cue over at a tournament this past weekend, but because of how hard the polycarbonate material is, it didn't hurt it. Now that I've seen it though, I can't unsee it! 🤣

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j2pac

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The tenon will be on the ferrule. Likely no threads, since that would make the wood extremely thin at the outer edge of the threads.
Similar to a "vault plate" on a carbon shaft. Except with a massive cap on it. Deflection will be a thing.
It probably would have been more mechanically sound to have threaded the shaft into the ferrule. It doesn't seem like that is what happened with this experiment. If I am wrong, I will gladly stand corrected.
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j2pac

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You can see the scratches in this picture. That was actually from someone knocking my cue over at a tournament this past weekend, but because of how hard the polycarbonate material is, it didn't hurt it. Now that I've seen it though, I can't unsee it! 🤣

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Sheldon

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It probably would have been more mechanically sound to have threaded the shaft into the ferrule. It doesn't seem like that is what happened with this experiment. If I am wrong, I will gladly stand corrected.
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It can be accomplished, but debatable whether it would be worthwhile.
The problem is that the ferrule ends up having the ability to put a dangerous amount of leverage on the tenon when it is that long. Threads reduce the diameter of the tenon and also cause you to have to remove a lot more wood from the shaft. Making that joint even weaker. This is why the tenon is almost always on the shaft, and why the amount of material above the shaft if the tenon is reversed is minimal.
 

R2PQZ

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I once built a two piece cue out of acrylic rod. It was unique looking, but not a cue to play with. It seemed to absorb the energy instead of transferring to the cueball. A collector bought it to add to his collection.
 

Kim Bye

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I'm guessing the ferrule is threaded into the shaft?
Splitting can be an issue for sure. a chunk of polycarbonate like that is heavy compared to a traditional wood tennon and Juma/Tomahawk/Hydex ferrule, so you're adding a fair bit of end mass and as you have already pointed out, it scratches very easily. Might look cool, but not super practical imo.
 

Michael Webb

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You can see the scratches in this picture. That was actually from someone knocking my cue over at a tournament this past weekend, but because of how hard the polycarbonate material is, it didn't hurt it. Now that I've seen it though, I can't unsee it! 🤣

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I'd say it's personal preference.
My first thought seeing it was,
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!
My second thought is,
Good luck!
 

Fatboy

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Yup. It looks like polycarbonate has a density of 1.2. That's roughly twice wood, but a lot lower than ivory.
Can test the hardness with a durometer, I’m not sure which scale would be correct for polycarbonate. But I’d bet a $1 it’s a different scale than wood.

M scale is for various resins. And there’s no chance it would work for wood as woods too soft. And ivory is too hard for that scale.

Point is the difference in wood poly are huge on the hardness scale. Even super hard hardwoods are still relatively soft
 
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