Climate Controlled Safes for Cues

drivermaker said:
I know my custom cues were certainly made in a year around controlled environment for temperature and humidity.
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What does that matter if the climate you live in is different from that of the cue makers climate controled room. It is the change in environment which causes the damage. There is nothing wrong with buying a cue from a maker who works in his garage so long as the climate he lives in is similar to that of yours and he has done everything he can to seal the cue to prevent rapid exchange of moisture. Having a climate controled shop only prevents the cues from warping during construction how does it help prevent warpage after it has left the shop?
 
Canadian cue said:
What does that matter if the climate you live in is different from that of the cue makers climate controled room. It is the change in environment which causes the damage. There is nothing wrong with buying a cue from a maker who works in his garage so long as the climate he lives in is similar to that of yours and he has done everything he can to seal the cue to prevent rapid exchange of moisture. Having a climate controled shop only prevents the cues from warping during construction how does it help prevent warpage after it has left the shop?
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Since we're on the subject, I would be interested in knowing the answer to this question as well.
 
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zeeder said:
Since we're on the subject, I would be interested in knowing the answer to this question as well.
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I would believe letting the wood sit and do its own thing for years ,and then turn it down you will have a peice that is less likley to go off :) , and a cue will most likley warp where it is unfinishedand can absorb or expell moisture like under the wrap/the shaft .and very possibly the joint! i wish a cue maker would give us input on this subject
 
Canadian cue said:
What does that matter if the climate you live in is different from that of the cue makers climate controled room. It is the change in environment which causes the damage.

Having a climate controled shop only prevents the cues from warping during construction how does it help prevent warpage after it has left the shop?
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Unless I'm misreading something here...it seems to me that your first two sentences above are contradictory and don't make sense. On one hand you say it doesn't matter...and then you say the change DOES cause DAMAGE.

I never said it helps to control warpage after it has left the shop, HOWEVER, "HAVING A CLIMATE CONTROLLED SHOP ONLY PREVENTS THE CUES FROM WARPING DURING CONSTRUCTION" is exactly what I've been saying the rest of the time.

If a guy is working out of his garage with NO CONTROLS for temperature and humidity...Hell, he might as well just store all of his wood in the back of his trunk at the end of the day...it's the same thing. Plus, most of the wood is untreated at that point and susceptible to conditions.

Since none of us are willing to store a quality cue in the back of our trunk after purchase or dropping it off in the garage overnight after playing (IT'S UNTHINKABLE) why would anyone allow it in the beginning?
 
drivermaker said:
Unless I'm misreading something here...it seems to me that your first two sentences above are contradictory and don't make sense. On one hand you say it doesn't matter...and then you say the change DOES cause DAMAGE.
I never said change didn't matter I was simply pointing out that having a cue built in a climate controlled shop does not help you any if your climate is different than the one it was built in.

If a guy is working out of his garage with NO CONTROLS for temperature and humidity...Hell, he might as well just store all of his wood in the back of his trunk at the end of the day...it's the same thing. Plus, most of the wood is untreated at that point and susceptible to conditions.

I do not think comparing a trunk of a car to that of most makers shop being a very fair analogy. There are not many makers working in a building which is not insulated, as well as being heated for a cold climate or air conditioned in a hot one. As far as not being treated this is one of the reasons alot of the makers are using Nelsonite during the construction phase. Do you honestly think that after investing thousands of dollars into material that a maker is going to give no consideration as to how he stores it?
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Canadian cue said:
Do you honestly think that after investing thousands of dollars into material that a maker is going to give no consideration as to how he stores it? [/COLOR]
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Well, if the guy IS working out of a garage...you tell ME the answer to your question. It seems obvious to me.

Sorry I don't know who or what you are. Are you a cue maker, a dealer, collector, or something else.
 
drivermaker said:
Well, if the guy IS working out of a garage...you tell ME the answer to your question. It seems obvious to me.
Your statement insinuates that if a maker is working out of his garage that it has absolutely no climate controle. I do not think that is the case in most instances.

Sorry I don't know who or what you are. Are you a cue maker, a dealer, collector, or something else.
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I am a pool player who enjoys building cues.
 
drivermaker said:
How do you know that as a result of having been stored and worked on in a garage with temperature and humidity extremes present that it WON'T warp afterwards or have a higher percentage chance of that happening? Sounds to me like you're really more interested in looks and a cheap price or possibly just a name that's been thrown out a few times.
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Take this in consideration. A shaft dowel is exposed to "almost" extreme elements of Southern California. The dowel experiences dry weather around 20% and wet weather around 80%. The dowel warps and follows it's direction.
The dowels who didn't stay straight after getting exposed to the semi-uncontrolled ( the garage/shop isn't exactly outdoors and the doors are closed during very extreme days ie rain or desert wind coming in ), get trashed. The dowels who have stayed straight, are mated with butts.
Take this consideration as a comparison. A shaft dowel is stored in a controlled climate shop in Florida. The humidity in that shop is set at 50%, temperature at 75 degrees. Beautiful conditions. More shaft woods are yielded. Not much reason for the dowels to move. Heck, they might even have been dipped on Nelsonite.
Which shaft do you think would stay straight when the owner takes it to Vegas or Alaska?
:-)
 
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