Cognoscenti Cues Now Available In The US

Eydie Romano

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Cognoscenti Cues, for those who appreciate the finest Finally back in the USA!

For the past 5 years, Cognoscenti Cues have been sold exclusively in Japan. Joe Gold now has opened up the US market at US pricing with cue's starting at $1,299.00.

For more info call Joe Gold at 1-773-348-7154. Make sure you tell him you read it here and that Eydie Romano sent you.
 
Eydie Romano said:
Cognoscenti Cues, for those who appreciate the finest Finally back in the USA!

For the past 5 years, Cognoscenti Cues have been sold exclusively in Japan. Joe Gold now has opened up the US market at US pricing with cue's starting at $1,299.00.

For more info call Joe Gold at 1-773-348-7154. Make sure you tell him you read it here and that Eydie Romano sent you.
Is INDYQ the distributor for Cog's?
 
Did anybody really miss them??, Aren't there enought CNC jockey cues to keep everybody happy?? But at least it's good to know they are very reasonably priced. I saw Joe at the 2002 or 2003 Valley Forge show, that wasn't five years ago, but I don't think they were as reasonably priced as they are know.:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
Indyq does distribute for him, although NOW you can buy direct from Joe. He is one of the nicest people in the business. Bob and Joe have been friends for years and Bob owns several Cog's.

They are great cues and NOW is the time to buy.

Give Joe a call today and remember to tell him that I sent you.:D
 
Eydie Romano said:
Indyq does distribute for him, although NOW you can buy direct from Joe. He is one of the nicest people in the business. Bob and Joe have been friends for years and Bob owns several Cog's.

They are great cues and NOW is the time to buy.

Give Joe a call today and remember to tell him that I sent you.:D
Thanks for the inside information.
I will have to see if I can hit with one prior to committing.
The one I like is the logo cue - it is sweeeeet.
I will look for Joe at VF.
 
miss them? cnc?

pathman said:
Did anybody really miss them??, Aren't there enought CNC jockey cues to keep everybody happy??

allot of people missed them and also cnc has nothing to do with it. joes cues are some of the best constructed cues in the world period! i've seen the work from start to finnish. very maticulous! i use to go to his place all the time for years and saw every aspect his craft. he is a good guy, friend and one hell of a cue maker.:)
 
No thanks...

Wore the Japanese market out so its "ok" for us to buy them now? Anyone else see whats wrong with that picture? Same nice guy that hung up on me when I asked him to make the cue 1" longer? He makes a nice rod and I'm sure some people will jump at the chance but I'll pass...
 
I was kinda thinking the same thing. I wouldn't own a Black Boar either. I also agree with pathman. I felt betrayed. First time , shame on you, second time , shame on me. I never go back.
Purdman
 
skins said:
allot of people missed them and also cnc has nothing to do with it. joes cues are some of the best constructed cues in the world period! i've seen the work from start to finnish. very maticulous! i use to go to his place all the time for years and saw every aspect his craft. he is a good guy, friend and one hell of a cue maker.:)
Do you think their performance will improve on the secondary market? Do you think any cue which utilizes predominant CNC for embellishment will do as well as cues embellished in a more hands on manner? Using resale value on the secondary market as criterior are any of the top 5 CNC? :confused:
 
skins said:
allot of people missed them and also cnc has nothing to do with it. joes cues are some of the best constructed cues in the world period! i've seen the work from start to finnish. very maticulous! i use to go to his place all the time for years and saw every aspect his craft. he is a good guy, friend and one hell of a cue maker.:)

I don't doubt that the cues are well made, but my five year old son is pretty good at putting puzzles together, I mean he never misses, he gets every piece put in just perfect. I will never understand why somebody who spends a little money on some computerized equipment gets all of these accolades. Look at the perfection of cues from Searing, Bill Schick, Tad, Mottey and tell me how they compare.
 
Only Hand Cut Inlays For Me From Now On.

From this day forward, I will only buy cues made completely freehand, no pantograph, no CNC, just a block of wood and a pocket knife. Then I'll have a truly handmade cue, and that will make it the best cue ever.

Come on folks, I'd bet that Pantograph patterns are often made on a CNC, or standard patterns are just purchased. So its a hand guiding a stylus around a pattern instead of motors, its all the same folks. And neither, when done correctly is as simple as putting a puzzle together.
 
pathman said:
Did anybody really miss them??, Aren't there enought CNC jockey cues to keep everybody happy?? But at least it's good to know they are very reasonably priced. I saw Joe at the 2002 or 2003 Valley Forge show, that wasn't five years ago, but I don't think they were as reasonably priced as they are know.:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I'll second and third that motion. Why should I spend $1500 on an ugly CNC design when I can buy an equally ugly design from one of the production companies. And personally, I think a Joss just might play better.
 
96supersport said:
From this day forward, I will only buy cues made completely freehand, no pantograph, no CNC, just a block of wood and a pocket knife. Then I'll have a truly handmade cue, and that will make it the best cue ever.

Come on folks, I'd bet that Pantograph patterns are often made on a CNC, or standard patterns are just purchased. So its a hand guiding a stylus around a pattern instead of motors, its all the same folks. And neither, when done correctly is as simple as putting a puzzle together.
If it's all the same why is there such a significant value differance on the secondary market? :confused:
 
96supersport said:
Come on folks, I'd bet that Pantograph patterns are often made on a CNC, or standard patterns are just purchased. So its a hand guiding a stylus around a pattern instead of motors, its all the same folks. And neither, when done correctly is as simple as putting a puzzle together.

I don't know 96supersport! I tried putting together a 5000 piece puzzle of the Alps. Lots of rocks and snow. Man! Was that tough!
All I got was a headache. But I played with a Cog once and the only thing rounder than the ugly-ass floating points, or point-like things (what are those things?), were the balls that it hit so poorly!
 
pharaoh68 said:
I don't know 96supersport! I tried putting together a 5000 piece puzzle of the Alps. Lots of rocks and snow. Man! Was that tough!
All I got was a headache. But I played with a Cog once and the only thing rounder than the ugly-ass floating points, or point-like things (what are those things?), were the balls that it hit so poorly!


Mister hater of rounded points, we salute you!!!! These guys just don't get it, and they probably never will, but it sure is fun trying to beat them into submission, don't ya think.
 
Honestly, I care so little about the issue that I don't even really know who uses CNC or not for the most part. But if the previous posts are correct that Black Boars are CNC, have you priced one of those lately? Secondly, CNC is a newer technology, so some of the more establshed cuemakers who were around before CNCs were widely available, like the way they do it and don't want to change. And finally, the aftermarket for cues besides the really big names isn't that great. Sure, Hercek, Szamboti, and Southwest all sell for more than they cost as soon as they post, but I see people on here and on eBay every day begging for people to buy the customs they're selling. Hercek has a niche, Szamboiti has a Name, and Soutwest has a reputation.

I'm not a cuemaker, so i don't have the means to do it, but I'd like to see one of these CNC naysayers get shipped a butt with pockets cut and inlay slabs as they come off the CNC, and see them just slap them together like a puzzle.

Finally, to me the argument over inlays is silly because how they are done has no impact on how a cue plays. Sure fight over, tips, ferrules, joints and beat full splice vs. short splice into the ground, but inlays???
 
96supersport said:
From this day forward, I will only buy cues made completely freehand, no pantograph, no CNC, just a block of wood and a pocket knife. Then I'll have a truly handmade cue, and that will make it the best cue ever.

Come on folks, I'd bet that Pantograph patterns are often made on a CNC, or standard patterns are just purchased. So its a hand guiding a stylus around a pattern instead of motors, its all the same folks. And neither, when done correctly is as simple as putting a puzzle together.

I don't know about the newer guys, but the old timers made the patterns out of phenolic sheets, lucite and metal. Bill Schick has a wall full of patterns he's made over the years, and not a damn one of them was bought, they came from his imagination and were executed by hand. The old Gorton pantographs that a lot of guys use, are clunky, hard to work with and have to be modified to accepct the patterns and the cues. The work and creativity that goes into this process is night and day away from CNC.
 
alpine9430 said:
Thanks for the inside information.
I will have to see if I can hit with one prior to committing.
The one I like is the logo cue - it is sweeeeet.
I will look for Joe at VF.

I sent you an e-mail.
 
I Welcome Your Opinion, Thanks For Listening To Mine

pathman said:
Mister hater of rounded points, we salute you!!!! These guys just don't get it, and they probably never will, but it sure is fun trying to beat them into submission, don't ya think.

I'll agree that CNC cut point pockets are round fresh off the machine (pantograph, or cnc) but like I said, WHEN DONE CORRECTLY, CNC cut inlays are not round. It takes a tremendous amount of hand fitting to make them sharp and right. Some folks do the extra work, some don't, and there is a price difference. And, I don't like the rounded inlays just like the rest of you. But CNC does not necessarily = round, and pantograph does not necessarily = sharp.

that's all I've got, to each their own.
 
96supersport said:
Honestly, I care so little about the issue that I don't even really know who uses CNC or not for the most part. But if the previous posts are correct that Black Boars are CNC, have you priced one of those lately? Secondly, CNC is a newer technology, so some of the more establshed cuemakers who were around before CNCs were widely available, like the way they do it and don't want to change. And finally, the aftermarket for cues besides the really big names isn't that great. Sure, Hercek, Szamboti, and Southwest all sell for more than they cost as soon as they post, but I see people on here and on eBay every day begging for people to buy the customs they're selling. Hercek has a niche, Szamboiti has a Name, and Soutwest has a reputation.

I'm not a cuemaker, so i don't have the means to do it, but I'd like to see one of these CNC naysayers get shipped a butt with pockets cut and inlay slabs as they come off the CNC, and see them just slap them together like a puzzle.

Finally, to me the argument over inlays is silly because how they are done has no impact on how a cue plays. Sure fight over, tips, ferrules, joints and beat full splice vs. short splice into the ground, but inlays???

There are very few people who don't use CNC or pantograph when making inlays. The issue here is points and inlays with rounded points. It's a point not a round...lol. Use CNC all you want, just make all the parts of the inlay/point, that should be sharp, sharp!

Zack <~~~ doesn't like rounded points on pointy inlays.
 
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