Cognoscenti Cues Now Available In The US

Eydie Romano said:
I am going to be doing an interview with Joey, Any questions you all would like addressed? Please be nice..:)
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Eydie,

I've always wondered why Joey refuses to build anuthing other than a 57.5" cue. As a seller, I know that there have been times that customers have liked the hit of a Cog but simply cannot play with one because of the length. Tough on somebody over 6' tall....you're not supposed to have to hold a cue by the bumper !!!

Sean
 
cueaddicts said:
Eydie,

I've always wondered why Joey refuses to build anuthing other than a 57.5" cue. As a seller, I know that there have been times that customers have liked the hit of a Cog but simply cannot play with one because of the length. Tough on somebody over 6' tall....you're not supposed to have to hold a cue by the bumper !!!

Sean
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Joey says................:eek:
 
cueaddicts said:
Eydie,

I've always wondered why Joey refuses to build anuthing other than a 57.5" cue. As a seller, I know that there have been times that customers have liked the hit of a Cog but simply cannot play with one because of the length. Tough on somebody over 6' tall....you're not supposed to have to hold a cue by the bumper !!!

Sean
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If canvas size/location is variable robbie might put cavities (might) in the wrong places. Not cost effective when only getting 13hun for plain jane with ringwork.:rolleyes:
 
skins said:
if i had to guess i would think between all the cue makers who use and or used my design work maybe 750 to 1250 some where in there. any time your in chicago let me know and we'll go out for that beer.
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So out of Joe's inlay "inventory" what percentage have you created?

So you know where I am going with this...

If you do cuemaker designs for a cuemaker that you do not directly work for, isn't he in essence "buying parts"?

Joe
 
Eydie,

I love Cognoscenti both for its hit and its design. However, I do have a couple questions if you don't mind.

Does he offer warranty on the pin?

If it cracks or come loose, how long does it take for him to replace it?

Thank you.

Richard
 
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classiccues said:
So out of Joe's inlay "inventory" what percentage have you created?

So you know where I am going with this...

If you do cuemaker designs for a cuemaker that you do not directly work for, isn't he in essence "buying parts"?

Joe
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i don't really get where your going but let me see if this is what your fishing for. do you think joe "paid" or compensated me in any way for the designs he has used of mine and the ones he still has not used yet? if that's what your looking for the answer is no. he wasn't supposed to. the designs he uses(ed) were given to him to use many years ago. these "ideas" of mine he has are grand fathered to him until he stops making cues. consider it a pleasure for me to see something i thought of incorporated into one of the finest cues in the world. that's it. now the answer to your first question. i don't know if i've seen all of joe's work since i moved in 2000 but of the 12 designs or so that i know he uses for his cues my inspiration is found in at least 7 of them including the "trigger" cue which is the top cue on cover of the 2nd edition blue book.
 
Richard, I purchased some old stock g10 pins and have been using them for over two years. I put the pin through a 2x4 with a hammer, came through the other side undamaged. I installed a g10 into an old house cue, drilled a hole in the butt and hung it from the ceiling, let it go and let it hit the cement floor. I did this 15 times and the pin did not fail. Next I grabbed the house cue and gave the g10 a good wack against the cement floor, still didn't fail. Next wack I put some force behind it, it finally snapped. I guess the point to all this is that under normal use the pin will not fail. With the same amount of pressure that I applied any other pin would have either bent or snapped the joint collar.

Skins, If you have any designs floating around I'm always looking for a challange.
 
dunkelcustomcue said:
Richard, I purchased some old stock g10 pins and have been using them for over two years. I put the pin through a 2x4 with a hammer, came through the other side undamaged. I installed a g10 into an old house cue, drilled a hole in the butt and hung it from the ceiling, let it go and let it hit the cement floor. I did this 15 times and the pin did not fail. Next I grabbed the house cue and gave the g10 a good wack against the cement floor, still didn't fail. Next wack I put some force behind it, it finally snapped. I guess the point to all this is that under normal use the pin will not fail. With the same amount of pressure that I applied any other pin would have either bent or snapped the joint collar.
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Thank you for your answer.
I am afraid it is very difficult, if not impossible, to derive a solid conclusion from a small sample size.
I just want to know the time frame and if it was under warranty, that is all.
Let me make myself clear, in my opinion, it is the problem of the material , not that of the cue maker, when the pin cracks or chips.
I have seen it quite a few times. One time I also saw one pin that came loose. I am not sure if the player has abused the cue, two of them belonged to pro players and one to a collector. They were very happy with their cues and just wanted to fix the problem and keep using their cues. Back then, a lot of people believed that it would take a long time if they send their cues to Joe, that is why they never tried.
I know they love the hit of their cues and they would be very happy if Joe could finish it fairly quickly for them now. That is all.
Thank you.
Richard
 
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Richard, Mine is a very small sampling compared to Cognescenti, a little over sixty cues, but I have yet to have any of the problems that you mentioned. The one thing that I'm not crazy about on the pin is that the stem that gets glued into the stem is straight and has no threads, you're relying totally on the glue to hold it in place.
 
dunkelcustomcue said:
Richard, Mine is a very small sampling compared to Cognescenti, a little over sixty cues, but I have yet to have any of the problems that you mentioned. The one thing that I'm not crazy about on the pin is that the stem that gets glued into the stem is straight and has no threads, you're relying totally on the glue to hold it in place.
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I believe you and I do not mean to disagree with you with your findings. I believe the problems I stated were most likely exceptions rather than the norm, and they were isolated incidents.
Keep up the good work.:)

Richard
 
Charlie Edwards said:
I asked these same questions when I bought my Cog several years ago. Joe Gold told me the pin has a lifetime warranty, and if it needed to be replaced, the work would be completed within a few days of receipt. BTW, he also said that he had only had to replace less than one dozen, for all the cues he has built. A good bit of the time I break with my playing cue and I have never hesitated to break with this cue. I always felt that if the pin couldn't take it, let it snap. But it has held up just fine. No problems at all.
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Thank you so much for sharing.:)

Richard
 
Hopefully I will see Joe this coming Thursday night. I will print all of this thread and bring it with me. Please continue to do ask and I will get as many answers as possible.

Eydie
 
Personally I would like to know:

1. Will he have a website to display his cues or contact him? I found his web page I think, but it's only a one pager and almost no info on his cues.

2. What about requests for shafts? I hear he only makes 57.5 inch cues, Does he only make one taper for his cues? I heard that it's about a 8-10 inch straight taper. Can he make a 12-14 inch pro taper?

That's all I can think of for now.
 
Eydie Romano said:
Hopefully I will see Joe this coming Thursday night. I will print all of this thread and bring it with me. Please continue to do ask and I will get as many answers as possible.

Eydie
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Hi Eydie, I'm a player from Italy and my cue is a plain cocobolo Cog I wouldn't change for anything. My G10 pin has cracked, and I'd like to send it to Mr. Gold to be replaced.
I'm afraid I will have some language problems with a phone call, and being my cue so important for me I'd like to know if Mr. Gold has an active e-mail address so that I'll be able to explain myself properly and not to miss anything of his answers.
Richard gave me Joe's number but I'd like to try with an e-mail first. ;)
Thanks in advance,

tom (Francesco Tomati)
 
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