Coin toss on the table?

I see sez the blind man!!

That stuff that was on the bottom of your shoe, why do you want to apply that to your cue tip and then put the cue in your case? That is the mystery to me. Seems a little rough on your tip and your case plus you are far more likely to grow mold from what you pick up off the floor than the chalk. I use a napkin or a paper towel or even the inside of my pants cuff to clean chalk off my tip if nothing else is handy.

Hu



okinawa77 said:
Hu,
Removing the chalk from your tip before putting your cue into your case will keep your cue case from getting a chalk dust collection. Some cue cases cost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars. If moisture combines with the collection of chalk dust, then it could cause mold and ruin your case. A cue tip is a lot cheaper than the cost of most cue cases. And unless you have a super soft tip, cleaning the chalk off of it shouldn't damage it. Granted, rubbing the tip on the carpet is a little disrespectful to the owner, but some of the stuff on the bottom of our shoes is a lot worse than chalk.
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I play with a friend and we flip on is Simonis cloth all the time and it has yet to harm it. Unless quarters became 5 lbs. since Friday.....:D
 
the "damage"

powerlineman80 said:
I play with a friend and we flip on is Simonis cloth all the time and it has yet to harm it. Unless quarters became 5 lbs. since Friday.....:D
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The damage caused by flipping a quarter would not be visible to the naked eye.

Imagine building a gun that continuously fired quarters at the same speed as flipping? Leave it
on overnight sometime aimed at a table! :)
 
I had never even considered this before. It seems pretty harmless, but I can understand the owner being worried that a high flip will hit just right and cause a tiny hole. Besides, it's only a matter of time before some overzealous flipper pops one right up into a fluorescent tube. This rule is a great excuse to lag. :)
 
whitey2 said:
The damage caused by flipping a quarter would not be visible to the naked eye.

Imagine building a gun that continuously fired quarters at the same speed as flipping? Leave it
on overnight sometime aimed at a table! :)
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Yea but who is going to flip that many times overnight? I agree carelessness could cause damage but when you flip a few times a week that would take a VERY LONG time to damage the felt. We play on his table once a week, and might flip 3 times at most in a night. We'd probably be dead before it actually caused any noticeable damage IMO.
 
I agree

I agree. No contest. I'm just adding some data to the topic.

A hundred years from now, if pool and coins are still around, folks should still know where
room owners were coming from. :)
 
whitey2 said:
I agree. No contest. I'm just adding some data to the topic.

A hundred years from now, if pool and coins are still around, folks should still know where
room owners were coming from. :)
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Oh I agree with you there and thanks for your input. I wasnt trying to say you were wrong or anything and I apologize if it sounded that way.

And I agree that if my buddy said no more flipping, I wouldnt say one word in disagreement. Or if they told us that at league play I would just lag. Their table, their rules IMO.
 
Hi, no apology required, I did not take it offensively.

Some folks even "flip" out when they hear a rule like that. They think the room owner is just
being a ____.

I remember a room in Garner MA, on Main St. about a 30 second walk from a larger pool hall.
The owner (may he rest in peace if my info is correct) used to have many rules, that some
would find unusual.

The rack always had to be hung on the hook when not in use. They had a swearing jar, but I
never participated. It was a very quaint 4-table room.

The owner was concerned that crumbs, dirt, etc. would get distributed from wherever the rack
was set down, back to the table surface. I think they used to get mostly quiet and older
straight pool players there. The owner and his wife used to seem quite uncomfortable
when I broke the balls explosively.

I really think that they were never exposed to that, and perhaps the balls might "break"
or something.

In any case, while I was there, I obeyed the rules.


powerlineman80 said:
Oh I agree with you there and thanks for your input. I wasnt trying to say you were wrong or anything and I apologize if it sounded that way.

And I agree that if my buddy said no more flipping, I wouldnt say one word in disagreement. Or if they told us that at league play I would just lag. Their table, their rules IMO.
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whitey2 said:
Hi, no apology required, I did not take it offensively.

Some folks even "flip" out when they hear a rule like that. They think the room owner is just being a ____.

I remember a room in Garner MA, on Main St. about a 30 second walk from a larger pool hall. The owner (may he rest in peace if my info is correct) used to have many rules, that some would find unusual.

The rack always had to be hung on the hook when not in use. They had a swearing jar, but I never participated.
It was a very quaint 4-table room.
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Yea I can never flip out on someones table, I dont own it so I play by their rules. My brother doesnt allow jumping or masse'ing (I dont do either anyways) and my buddy makes you use an extra piece of felt to put under the cue ball when breaking or jumping. I have no objections to any of it.
At league play I dont think there is ANY rules......lol

I've been in some that didnt allow cussing also and I'm very vocal when I miss shots I think I should have made. My brother is a Deacon so I REALLY have to keep quiet there;) :D
 
Showing my age here again...

I do remember when silver half dollars were in wide circulation. Big Dan used to tell you to call it and then slam the coin on the table to make it bounce up and then land heads or tails.

I don't know if it ever did any damage but it sometimes sounded like it did. I was young but I remember thinking that if they were my tables I wouldn't let him do that.

Also I don't break much 9-ball on my home table. But I did on the cloth before the one I have now. I broke from a piece of cloth, which did prevent divots from the break position. But there was a definite path of divots from that point to the foot spot.

In general 9-ball leaves way more divots than straight pool, which leaves hardly any. A few jumps/masse/etc here and there but not much reason for leaving a mark.

Mike
 
Another possible problem is that when someone flips with poor aim, every now and then a coin can come down on a rail. I imagine that could leave a scratch or a ding, especially on a wood rail.
 
Coin toss on table

When Paul Silva was the front desk guy at the Q Club (once known as Cochran's) in San Francisco, he played a coin lagging game. He always played on the same table, and the object was to get your coin as close as possible to the head spot. There were eventually so many holes around the spot that no further proof was needed regarding the question.

Any object, sharp or blunt, will weaken the cloth if it hits with enough force. That's why I alway use dimes for flipping.
 
I agree

ShootingArts said:
That stuff that was on the bottom of your shoe, why do you want to apply that to your cue tip and then put the cue in your case? That is the mystery to me. Seems a little rough on your tip and your case plus you are far more likely to grow mold from what you pick up off the floor than the chalk. I use a napkin or a paper towel or even the inside of my pants cuff to clean chalk off my tip if nothing else is handy.

Hu
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I agree. Using a napkin, paper towel, etc. is the better way to wipe the chalk off of a tip.
 
I had an old-timer show me some dark marks on the cloth of an old table and explained to me that it was from so many people flipping quarters on it. After that, I started to notice players coming together at a certain area of the table and flipping their coins, right in the same area of the marks. That old-timer was right!!

I don't think about it much anymore because the old cloth had a thick napp and was easily damaged.
 
Mike_Mason said:
I do remember when silver half dollars were in wide circulation. Big Dan used to tell you to call it and then slam the coin on the table to make it bounce up and then land heads or tails.

I don't know if it ever did any damage but it sometimes sounded like it did. I was young but I remember thinking that if they were my tables I wouldn't let him do that.

Also I don't break much 9-ball on my home table. But I did on the cloth before the one I have now. I broke from a piece of cloth, which did prevent divots from the break position. But there was a definite path of divots from that point to the foot spot.

In general 9-ball leaves way more divots than straight pool, which leaves hardly any. A few jumps/masse/etc here and there but not much reason for leaving a mark.

Mike
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I have a friend that often does the bounced-quarter-slam instead of a thumb-flip. I've asked him to never do that on my table as I feared cloth damage.

My cloth is about shot, so I'll do a few experiments with various coins and get back to you.

Now if I can just get my teammate to quit hammering the balls in the rack!--and the guy has been a table mechanic for Pete's sake!

Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
My cloth is about shot, so I'll do a few experiments with various coins and get back to you.
Jeff Livingston
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Experiment done already...

Whoops!...Second flip of a real silver 1 oz coin I just bought last week (brand new) and it left a definite mark about 1/4 inch long. It didn't cut through the cloth, but easily could have if it came down hard enough and at the right angle, which would eventually happen.

The penny and dime have so little metal value to them that they almost floated in air. The plastic rack would do more damage.

The nickle had a little more mass and could do damage.

The quarter, being used, had less sharp edges, but it would do damage if done often enough as others here have indicated.

Thanks goodness the govt destroyed real money so the flipping problem has been reduced significantly. :rolleyes: and smoking, too.

I agree with Bob...respect and care around a table had better be encouraged.

Jeff Livingston
 
Some of my friends went to play in the Fury tour and they [tour director or the pool hall] berated one of them for flipping a coin on the table.
I understand that it's their tour (or pool hall) and they can run it the way they want, but stuff like that will make me never play a particular event/pool hall. It's just so stupid it would bother me the whole time I was there.
 
the coin toss rule here sounds like something Corndog might say if I showed up.....:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
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