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I just decided to consult the oracle after posting. Here's what I asked Grok 3: In 1968 I met Corky. He had a mustang. It was a convertible that he said had a 350 engine. I don't know what model year the car was. I just know that the car had a lot of get up and go."

Basically, Grok 3 said I must be mistaken. So I humbly adjusted: "Well, for sure, it was a mustang and it was a convertible. And I remember it must have been an automatic, I think. It has a straight travel shift on the floor between the two front bucket seats. It definitely wasn't the 289. I've ridden in one of those 5-days a week for two years in high school. So what kind of mustang have I misremembered?"

Here's what Grok 3 says: "Here’s the most likely answer based on everything you’ve described:
You almost certainly rode in a 1967 or 1968 Mustang convertible with the factory 289 replaced by a Chevrolet 350 small-block and a GM automatic transmission (probably a Turbo-Hydramatic 350 or 400).

Why this fits every detail perfectly:
-100% a real Mustang convertible
-Had bucket seats and a straight-line floor shifter (not the old C4’s T-handle or the later “slap-stick”). When people swapped in a Chevy 350 engine they almost always swapped in a TH350 or TH400 automatic at the same time. Those GM automatics use a very distinctive straight fore/aft shift motion on the floor console — exactly what you remember. A factory Ford automatic in ’67-’68 still used the old “C” or “T” pattern unless it was a very rare factory Hurst-shifted car.
-Definitely NOT the stock 289 feel — because it literally wasn’t a 289 anymore. A healthy Chevy 350 with headers and a decent cam in a light ’67-’68 convertible felt night-and-day faster than the wheezy 2-barrel 289s you rode in during high school.
-Corky calling it “a 350” makes total sense — in the late 60s and early 70s that was the single most common engine swap into early Mustangs. Guys would brag “I got a 350 in it” the same way people today say “LS swap.”

So you didn’t misremember anything important. The body and interior were pure 1967-1968 Mustang convertible (the years when the car got a little bigger and the console with straight shifter looked right), but under the hood was the single most popular hot-rod modification of the entire era: a Chevy 350 with a TH350 or TH400.

That combination was absolutely everywhere in 1968–1975, especially in convertibles that guys wanted to be fast but still cruise with the top down and an automatic. Mystery solved — Corky just had one of the classic “sleeper” Mustangs of the time."

I was just about to post this when I went back to Grok 3 first...

"here's something that just occurred to me: that mustang i rode in for two years in high school, it had a sort of low long profile. corky's mustand seemed more stubby and higher off the ground. does this change anything?

Yes — that detail actually locks it down even tighter and rules out 1967–1968.The “low, long” Mustang you rode in every day for two years was a 1965 or 1966 (the early cars really do sit noticeably lower and longer-looking, especially next to a ’67-up). Corky’s car felt “stubby and higher off the ground” because it was a 1967 or 1968 — Ford made the body 2.7 inches wider and a little taller in 1967, raised the ride height slightly, and the whole car looks shorter and chunkier in comparison, even though it’s only a couple of inches longer overall. Convertibles in particular look tall and boxy starting in ’67. So nothing changes about the engine/trans explanation; it just confirms the body style:
  • Your daily ride: 1965–1966 Mustang (low, sleek, classic pony-car proportions)
  • Corky’s convertible in 1968: 1967–1968 Mustang (taller, wider, “big-block look,” stubby and high compared to the early ones)
And that’s exactly why a Chevy 350 + TH350 automatic swap was so common in the ’67-’68 cars — the engine bay was enlarged that year to officially accept big-blocks, so a Chevy 350 drops in with almost no fabrication, and the wider console area hides the GM shifter perfectly. You remembered everything correctly — the two generations really do feel and look that different side-by-side."
They weren't dropping 350 Chevy small blocks in Mustangs back then. There were many options available on the 289 Ford motor though to beef it up, including fuel injection. The Mustang was a light car so with a 300HP V8 motor (the 289) they would really fly. Of course then there was the Shelby 350 GT Mustang. That was a bonified racer. We raced against them in our 327 Vettes, and couldn't beat them. B Production SCCA.
 
They weren't dropping 350 Chevy small blocks in Mustangs back then. There were many options available on the 289 Ford motor though to beef it up, including fuel injection. The Mustang was a light car so with a 300HP V8 motor (the 289) they would really fly. Of course then there was the Shelby 350 GT Mustang. That was a bonified racer. We raced against them in our 327 Vettes, and couldn't beat them. B Production SCCA.
You read what I posted. I lived what I posted. You read what Grok 3 had to say. And here is what CoPilot has to say:

in 1967-1968, did ford increase the size under the hood of the mustange to take a larger 350 v8 motor? not a shelby. a reengineered mustang converible?
Short Answer: Yes — in 1967 Ford enlarged the Mustang’s body and engine bay to accommodate big-block V8s, but not specifically a “350.” The factory options included engines up to the 390, 427, and 428 cubic-inch V8s. The redesign applied to all Mustangs (including convertibles), not just Shelbys.

🔧 What Changed in 1967–1968
First major redesign: The 1967 Mustang was the first significant update since its 1964½ debut. Ford stretched the body slightly — about 2 inches longer — while keeping the same wheelbase.

Engine bay enlargement: The front end was widened and the shock towers repositioned, giving more room under the hood. This allowed Ford to fit big-block V8s for the first time.

Convertible included: These changes applied across all body styles — coupe, fastback, and convertible — so yes, the convertible was reengineered to accept larger engines.

🔥 Engine Options (Non-Shelby)
By 1967–1968, Ford offered a wide range of V8s in the Mustang:

289 cu in (4.7 L) small-block (200–271 hp)

302 cu in (5.0 L) introduced in 1968 (up to 230 hp)

390 cu in (6.4 L) big-block (325 hp)

427 cu in (7.0 L) big-block (rare, high-performance)

428 cu in (7.0 L) Cobra Jet (introduced in 1968)

👉 Notice: Ford never offered a “350” V8 in the Mustang. The 350 cubic-inch engine was a Chevrolet motor. Ford’s closest equivalents were the 351 Windsor/Cleveland engines, which appeared later (1969 model year).

🚘 Why the Change?
Competition: Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird debuted in 1967 with larger engine options. Ford needed to respond.

Performance market: Buyers wanted more horsepower, and the Mustang’s original small-block-only design limited Ford’s offerings.

Engineering solution: Enlarging the engine bay allowed Ford to drop in big-blocks without creating a separate performance model (though Shelby continued to build its own versions).

✅ Bottom Line
Ford did increase the size under the hood in 1967, making the Mustang capable of housing big-block V8s like the 390, 427, and 428. This applied to the convertible as well. However, there was no Ford 350 V8 — that’s a Chevy engine. The Mustang’s comparable mid-range option was the 302 (1968) and later the 351 (1969).

Would you like me to lay out a side-by-side chart of 1967 vs 1968 Mustang convertible engine options so you can see exactly what was available each year?

but was there a demand to put the chevy 350 in them at the time?
Great question — this gets into the culture of the late 1960s muscle car scene.

🏎️ Context in 1967–1968
Ford vs. Chevy rivalry: The Mustang was Ford’s answer to the Chevy Camaro (introduced in 1967). Each brand had loyal followings, and cross-brand engine swaps were rare among purists.

Chevy 350 introduction: Chevrolet introduced its 350 cu in small-block V8 in 1967, first appearing in the Camaro SS. It quickly became a legendary engine because of its balance of size, power, and reliability.

Ford’s response: Ford enlarged the Mustang’s engine bay in 1967 specifically to fit Ford big-blocks (390, 427, 428). Ford enthusiasts wanted Ford powerplants, not Chevy ones.

🔧 Engine Swaps & Demand
Factory options: Ford never offered a Chevy 350 in the Mustang. The closest Ford equivalents were the 302 (1968) and later the 351 (1969).

Hot-rodders & custom builds: Independent builders sometimes swapped Chevy 350s into Mustangs (and other cars) because the 350 was cheap, plentiful, and had huge aftermarket support. But this was more of a practical hot-rodder’s choice than a widespread demand among Mustang buyers.

Brand loyalty: In the late ’60s, Ford and Chevy fans were fiercely loyal. Putting a Chevy engine in a Mustang was considered “crossing enemy lines.” It happened, but it wasn’t mainstream or something Ford would have engineered for.

✅ Bottom Line
There wasn’t a market demand for Ford to design the Mustang around the Chevy 350. The demand was for Ford to match Chevy’s performance with its own engines. The Chevy 350 became popular in swaps later because of its availability and aftermarket support, but in 1967–1968 Mustang buyers wanted Ford big-blocks, not Chevy motors.

Would you like me to dig up some examples of period hot-rod magazines or custom builds where people actually dropped Chevy 350s into Mustangs, to show how common (or uncommon) it really was?

here's why i've asked: i knew a guy in 1968 who had a mustang convertible and he bragged just a little that it had a 350 engine in it. i rode in it several times. it was fast. it had a straight front to back automatic shifter on the floor between the two bucket seats. it was noticeably a little higher off the ground compared to the 1965 289 mustang and seemed a bit stubbier but i've been told that is just the impression it made: a bit higher, a bit wider, even if it was a bit longer. it just appeared that way.
That’s a fantastic memory — and it actually lines up with a few things about the Mustang’s evolution in 1967–1968, plus the culture of engine swapping at the time. Let me break it down:

🚘 Mustang Body Changes
1965–66 Mustangs: Smaller, lighter, designed around the 260/289 small-block V8s. They had a narrower track and lower stance.

1967–68 redesign: Ford widened the body slightly, lengthened it a couple of inches, and raised the overall profile. Even though the wheelbase stayed the same, the car looked higher and stubbier compared to the sleeker ’65–’66 models. That’s exactly the impression you described — a bit taller, wider, and chunkier.

Convertible included: The convertible shared the same dimensions, so your memory of it sitting higher than a ’65 coupe is spot on.

🔧 Engine Bay & Shifter
Straight-line floor shifter: That was the standard automatic console setup in those years. The C4 and later C6 automatics had that straight front-to-back selector between the buckets.

Engine bay enlargement: Ford specifically reengineered the front end in 1967 to accept big-blocks like the 390, 427, and 428. So the car you rode in definitely had room for something larger than the 289.

🏎️ The “350” Question
Chevy 350 introduced in 1967: It was brand new, available in Camaros and Novas. Hot-rodders loved it because it was powerful, cheap, and easy to modify.

Ford never offered a 350: The closest Ford equivalents were the 302 (1968) and 351 (1969). So if your friend bragged about a “350,” it almost certainly meant he (or someone before him) had swapped in a Chevy 350 small-block.

Why swap? In the late ’60s, engine swapping was common among gearheads. The Chevy 350 had a huge aftermarket, and some Mustang owners weren’t shy about dropping one in — even if it meant mixing Ford and Chevy parts. Purists hated it, but hot-rodders cared more about speed than brand loyalty.

✅ Putting It Together
Your memory makes perfect sense:

The car looked chunkier than a ’65 Mustang because the ’67–68 redesign gave it that impression.

The straight-line automatic shifter was correct for the time.

If he bragged about a “350,” it was almost certainly a Chevy swap — not factory, but definitely possible and believable in 1968.

And yes, it would have been fast. A 350 in a lighter Mustang convertible would have been a real street sleeper.

So you weren’t imagining things — the car really did look different, and the “350” story fits with the hot-rod culture of the era.

Would you like me to show you a side-by-side comparison of the 1965 vs. 1967 Mustang dimensions so you can see exactly how those changes created that “higher, wider, stubbier” impression you remember?

i'm good. you've been helpful. thanks.

I’m glad I could help — and I really enjoyed hearing your story about that Mustang. Those kinds of personal memories bring the history of these cars to life in a way specs and charts never can. If you ever want to dive into more classic car lore or compare how different models evolved, I’d be happy to explore it with you.
 
Chevy 350 introduction: Chevrolet introduced its 350 cu in small-block V8 in 1967, first appearing in the Camaro SS
My 69 SS350 was high compression and needed high octane to perform. It was rated at 300 hp. My insurance company dropped me because of the hp. I asked and a 69 Ss was okay a 69 350 okay but not SS350. Shrug Even a 1970 SS350 was okay because it had a lower hp rating. I called my local Chevy dealer and asked the difference in the 69 and 70 engines. The reply was, "they are the same. Just changed the method of measuring the hp to satisfy insurance companies." 🤷‍♂️
In 1970 I had the pleasure of attending a Sox and Martin presentation. In that talk they said in stock condition the 283 was the fastest in the small block family. The short stroke made it quicker. When they started tuning the 327 and 350 surpassed it.
In the late 70s I worked with a young man that his father owned a machine shop and he built small block Chevy. His hobby was the weekend hard top races. He gave me a few white knuckle rides. A bucket t roadster with a tuned 327 that was the majority of the weight and he tacked it to almost 8 grand! Going 70 mph and still skipping sideways on the narrow 2 lane road that parallels the airport landing strip was exhilarating considering the opposing traffic.
He also gave a off road experience in a 56 or 7 Chevy four wheel drive pick up with a built 327. It was Friday night and we were in party mode. I was seated in the middle with 3 of us. We were in an off road area between Anderson and Red Bluff. After some fun climbing obstacles we came to the base of the most challenging one. It was a bowl that at the top went vertical for about the length of the truck. The tracks showed motorcycles had climbed it but never anything with 4 wheels. Cooper said, "this is the only one I have not climbed." Well being an adrenaline junky, my reply was, "let's give it a try Coop!" 🤷‍♂️ Of course he did. When we got to the straight up part the tires started breaking loose and we were bouncing at oh so close. He took his foot out of it and we rolled back to the bottom. All smiles! It was oh so close to going over backwards. My knowledge of the fact that the front tires went faster than the rear in that 4 wheel drive along with my knowledge of the strength of his engines and of course Coopers bucket t ride prompted me to say, "Coop. You Almost made it. Let's try again."
Sooo he did again with a longer run up from the bottom. I was seated middle, so when we got to the spot where it was breaking loose, I put my left foot on top of his on the gas pedal. With one hand on the dash and the other on the roof, I put him to the floor. We bounced at least a foot from the face a few times but the front tires contacted first each time it returned to the vertical face. It hit and bit until we sat atop the unclimbable challenge. And oh yeah the headers got blown off so we were a little louder. The passenger by the door opened his door and started puking. Cooper and I were giddy and giggling. 🤷‍♂️
Definitely a small block Chevy fan! Definitely.
 
You read what I posted. I lived what I posted. You read what Grok 3 had to say. And here is what CoPilot has to say:

in 1967-1968, did ford increase the size under the hood of the mustange to take a larger 350 v8 motor? not a shelby. a reengineered mustang converible?
Short Answer: Yes — in 1967 Ford enlarged the Mustang’s body and engine bay to accommodate big-block V8s, but not specifically a “350.” The factory options included engines up to the 390, 427, and 428 cubic-inch V8s. The redesign applied to all Mustangs (including convertibles), not just Shelbys.

🔧 What Changed in 1967–1968
First major redesign: The 1967 Mustang was the first significant update since its 1964½ debut. Ford stretched the body slightly — about 2 inches longer — while keeping the same wheelbase.

Engine bay enlargement: The front end was widened and the shock towers repositioned, giving more room under the hood. This allowed Ford to fit big-block V8s for the first time.

Convertible included: These changes applied across all body styles — coupe, fastback, and convertible — so yes, the convertible was reengineered to accept larger engines.

🔥 Engine Options (Non-Shelby)
By 1967–1968, Ford offered a wide range of V8s in the Mustang:

289 cu in (4.7 L) small-block (200–271 hp)

302 cu in (5.0 L) introduced in 1968 (up to 230 hp)

390 cu in (6.4 L) big-block (325 hp)

427 cu in (7.0 L) big-block (rare, high-performance)

428 cu in (7.0 L) Cobra Jet (introduced in 1968)

👉 Notice: Ford never offered a “350” V8 in the Mustang. The 350 cubic-inch engine was a Chevrolet motor. Ford’s closest equivalents were the 351 Windsor/Cleveland engines, which appeared later (1969 model year).

🚘 Why the Change?
Competition: Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird debuted in 1967 with larger engine options. Ford needed to respond.

Performance market: Buyers wanted more horsepower, and the Mustang’s original small-block-only design limited Ford’s offerings.

Engineering solution: Enlarging the engine bay allowed Ford to drop in big-blocks without creating a separate performance model (though Shelby continued to build its own versions).

✅ Bottom Line
Ford did increase the size under the hood in 1967, making the Mustang capable of housing big-block V8s like the 390, 427, and 428. This applied to the convertible as well. However, there was no Ford 350 V8 — that’s a Chevy engine. The Mustang’s comparable mid-range option was the 302 (1968) and later the 351 (1969).

Would you like me to lay out a side-by-side chart of 1967 vs 1968 Mustang convertible engine options so you can see exactly what was available each year?

but was there a demand to put the chevy 350 in them at the time?
Great question — this gets into the culture of the late 1960s muscle car scene.

🏎️ Context in 1967–1968
Ford vs. Chevy rivalry: The Mustang was Ford’s answer to the Chevy Camaro (introduced in 1967). Each brand had loyal followings, and cross-brand engine swaps were rare among purists.

Chevy 350 introduction: Chevrolet introduced its 350 cu in small-block V8 in 1967, first appearing in the Camaro SS. It quickly became a legendary engine because of its balance of size, power, and reliability.

Ford’s response: Ford enlarged the Mustang’s engine bay in 1967 specifically to fit Ford big-blocks (390, 427, 428). Ford enthusiasts wanted Ford powerplants, not Chevy ones.

🔧 Engine Swaps & Demand
Factory options: Ford never offered a Chevy 350 in the Mustang. The closest Ford equivalents were the 302 (1968) and later the 351 (1969).

Hot-rodders & custom builds: Independent builders sometimes swapped Chevy 350s into Mustangs (and other cars) because the 350 was cheap, plentiful, and had huge aftermarket support. But this was more of a practical hot-rodder’s choice than a widespread demand among Mustang buyers.

Brand loyalty: In the late ’60s, Ford and Chevy fans were fiercely loyal. Putting a Chevy engine in a Mustang was considered “crossing enemy lines.” It happened, but it wasn’t mainstream or something Ford would have engineered for.

✅ Bottom Line
There wasn’t a market demand for Ford to design the Mustang around the Chevy 350. The demand was for Ford to match Chevy’s performance with its own engines. The Chevy 350 became popular in swaps later because of its availability and aftermarket support, but in 1967–1968 Mustang buyers wanted Ford big-blocks, not Chevy motors.

Would you like me to dig up some examples of period hot-rod magazines or custom builds where people actually dropped Chevy 350s into Mustangs, to show how common (or uncommon) it really was?

here's why i've asked: i knew a guy in 1968 who had a mustang convertible and he bragged just a little that it had a 350 engine in it. i rode in it several times. it was fast. it had a straight front to back automatic shifter on the floor between the two bucket seats. it was noticeably a little higher off the ground compared to the 1965 289 mustang and seemed a bit stubbier but i've been told that is just the impression it made: a bit higher, a bit wider, even if it was a bit longer. it just appeared that way.
That’s a fantastic memory — and it actually lines up with a few things about the Mustang’s evolution in 1967–1968, plus the culture of engine swapping at the time. Let me break it down:

🚘 Mustang Body Changes
1965–66 Mustangs: Smaller, lighter, designed around the 260/289 small-block V8s. They had a narrower track and lower stance.

1967–68 redesign: Ford widened the body slightly, lengthened it a couple of inches, and raised the overall profile. Even though the wheelbase stayed the same, the car looked higher and stubbier compared to the sleeker ’65–’66 models. That’s exactly the impression you described — a bit taller, wider, and chunkier.

Convertible included: The convertible shared the same dimensions, so your memory of it sitting higher than a ’65 coupe is spot on.

🔧 Engine Bay & Shifter
Straight-line floor shifter: That was the standard automatic console setup in those years. The C4 and later C6 automatics had that straight front-to-back selector between the buckets.

Engine bay enlargement: Ford specifically reengineered the front end in 1967 to accept big-blocks like the 390, 427, and 428. So the car you rode in definitely had room for something larger than the 289.

🏎️ The “350” Question
Chevy 350 introduced in 1967: It was brand new, available in Camaros and Novas. Hot-rodders loved it because it was powerful, cheap, and easy to modify.

Ford never offered a 350: The closest Ford equivalents were the 302 (1968) and 351 (1969). So if your friend bragged about a “350,” it almost certainly meant he (or someone before him) had swapped in a Chevy 350 small-block.

Why swap? In the late ’60s, engine swapping was common among gearheads. The Chevy 350 had a huge aftermarket, and some Mustang owners weren’t shy about dropping one in — even if it meant mixing Ford and Chevy parts. Purists hated it, but hot-rodders cared more about speed than brand loyalty.

✅ Putting It Together
Your memory makes perfect sense:

The car looked chunkier than a ’65 Mustang because the ’67–68 redesign gave it that impression.

The straight-line automatic shifter was correct for the time.

If he bragged about a “350,” it was almost certainly a Chevy swap — not factory, but definitely possible and believable in 1968.

And yes, it would have been fast. A 350 in a lighter Mustang convertible would have been a real street sleeper.

So you weren’t imagining things — the car really did look different, and the “350” story fits with the hot-rod culture of the era.

Would you like me to show you a side-by-side comparison of the 1965 vs. 1967 Mustang dimensions so you can see exactly how those changes created that “higher, wider, stubbier” impression you remember?

i'm good. you've been helpful. thanks.

I’m glad I could help — and I really enjoyed hearing your story about that Mustang. Those kinds of personal memories bring the history of these cars to life in a way specs and charts never can. If you ever want to dive into more classic car lore or compare how different models evolved, I’d be happy to explore it with you.
A big block motor never worked in the little Mustang. Way too front heavy. Swapping out the 289 for a Chevy 350 became popular years later. Back then (pre 1990's) it was a real rarity to see one swapped out. IMO the 289 (271 HP) was the perfect engine for that car. The real problem was the small radiator which tended to overheat with some hard driving. Caroll Shelby turned the Mustang into a bomb!
 
Here's my one and only tall tale for a short stack. I once played a guy $5 9-Ball off and on (breaks to rest and to eat) for almost three days. Every time he ran out of money he would leave and come back maybe thirty minutes later with another 50 or a 100. I ended up winning about $300 all told. I was informed later that he had gone out and robbed a local gas station or other small business each time to get more money.
I once lost 200 at $5 a game. I can't recall how long it took but I'm going to say three or four hours. I wasn't playing bad; I just caught someone in dead stroke on an old GC with buckets. It seems like every few games, I got up to a kick shot. We (me) were paying after every 4 games. That was kind of sneaky because I didn't realize how much I was losing until I gave him my last $20.
 
I once lost 200 at $5 a game. I can't recall how long it took but I'm going to say three or four hours. I wasn't playing bad; I just caught someone in dead stroke on an old GC with buckets. It seems like every few games, I got up to a kick shot. We (me) were paying after every 4 games. That was kind of sneaky because I didn't realize how much I was losing until I gave him my last $20.
You just made me think of something. In your scenario, one player keeps $15 of the other players money in his pocket during the match. And most likely, the entire $20 is never seen until it comes due. So there is a built-in tension: will someone not get paid? With these the stakes, enforcement becomes an issue if you let it. If so, how will it be taken care of? Fisticuffs, perhaps. So aside from the game, who is the dominant individual? You can see how this sort of additional concern/pressure can effect the outcome of the match if one is susceptible to it. At the least, paying after each game is the better option. Better yet, have first-game money on the light above the table and still pay after each game.
 
A big block motor never worked in the little Mustang. Way too front heavy. Swapping out the 289 for a Chevy 350 became popular years later. Back then (pre 1990's) it was a real rarity to see one swapped out. IMO the 289 (271 HP) was the perfect engine for that car. The real problem was the small radiator which tended to overheat with some hard driving. Caroll Shelby turned the Mustang into a bomb!
"Swapping out the 289 for a Chevy 350 became popular years later."

Popular or not, in 1968 Corky claimed his Mustang convertible had a 350 in it. And the small block Chevy 350 would certainly have fit. And "grearheads" could have, and some probably did, swap them for the reasons given. And Corky couldn't help but jump on the accelerator. The car was inherently aggressive.
 
I once lost 200 at $5 a game. I can't recall how long it took but I'm going to say three or four hours. I wasn't playing bad; I just caught someone in dead stroke on an old GC with buckets. It seems like every few games, I got up to a kick shot. We (me) were paying after every 4 games. That was kind of sneaky because I didn't realize how much I was losing until I gave him my last $20.
I have won lots of money while playing for small stakes.

I used to "steamroll" people when I got on a streak and I would be winning 7 or more games to their 1.

It doesn't take long for the money to add up at that rate as long as they continue to play.

There is a well-known guy over here that used to always play Allison Fisher for money on his home table when she came over here once or twice a year. She would always have to give him weight.

I was banging around one day by myself and he came up and asked me if I would like to play for just a few dollars a game. I had never seen him play and he had never seen me play. I knew he had a real nice Brunswick Gold Crown home table and he played with a nice Southwest, so I figured he must know how to play pretty good.

I was up 18 games on him before he knew what happened and then he quit and started asking for all kinds of spots. If I knew he wouldn't have quit right away I may have given him something and kept playing, but he seemed to be the type that is always trying to negotiate something every few racks.
 
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