"Color of Money" question

looks like forrest whittaker......after rewatch double meaning seems clearer
 
There is no double meaning. Amos was just being an ass to rib Fast Eddie. The whole point to that line being in the movie was to let us know that, yes, Fast Eddie was hustled. It was an answer to Fast Eddie's question, "are you a hustler, Amos?"
 
Kieth: I thought I heard you say, years ago, that you changed your lines a little bit because you didn't think that the original lines they wanted you to say sounded like something that a pool player would say. Is that true?
 
We shot scenes with me ad libbing that you guys didn't see, and yes, we did try to shoot scenes with me saying what I wanted.

The line, "It's like a nightmare, isn't it?," was script. Me calling him "a lucky little pr*ck" was me.

Keith "Earthquake" McCready
 
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The dialog during the match by Amos was pure sarcasm. Amos would have to give some weight, like the wild 8 or so, for a more competative match.
 
Definately, "You thought you couldn't lose against the fat chump" that Dennis said earlier!

Maybe it's time for a "Director's Cut" with that extra footage included!!!
 
OK, try this. If, as many of you suggest, Amos is referring to his physical weight. Replay the scene, but when Amos says, "Do you think I should lose some weight?" substitute "Do you think I should go on a diet?"

I rest my case.

1-P
 
Not meant to be argumentative Kieth, but Forrest Whitaker was playing a role, Amos, not a cameo. If he was playing a cameo, his name in the movie would have been Forrest. What can I say? While you're working to be one of the best pool players in the world, I watch movies. I would never think of correcting anything you say about pool.

My feeling about that scene was that Amos knew he had humiliated Eddie and he was making like it was just no big deal. Like, he just stabbed this guy in the heart and now he wants to know if the guy thinks he's a little overweight. That's like stepping on his face as he's laying there dying. That's what led Eddie to want to part with his two road partners and get back into the game. He thought he knew it all but Amos just showed him that he didn't. That's also when he realized that he needed to woodshed and get his game back.
 
Eddie wasn't upset that he was hustled - he was upset that he didn't catch the hustle. The hustler got hustled. And when Amos asked the question I think everyone thought it was going to be something about hustling. But a good con man (hustler) never gives away the con. The part of the movie that I thought was stupid was when the kid came in with the envelope with 8K for Eddie and told him he "dumped" in their game and as a result he got all kinds of action in the green room. I would have thought that Eddie would have been happy that his student learned so well. But the really big dissappointment was that there was no follow up movie. Especially at the end when Eddie broke and said "I'm back". Jake
 
I agree with you, Jake, about Eddie being upset that he didn't catch the hustle. Remember when he took Vincent and his girlfriend to eat and he told Vincent, "You watched the watch and I was watching you." He thought he knew people but Amos threw him for a loop.

What I didn't get was the whole pissed off scene after Eddie got hustled by Amos. What was Vincent so pissed about? He knew what to do now because of everything Eddie taught him. Why was he so pissed? I just didn't get that part. I can understand sad or maybe disappointment but anger? I didn't get that.

As for the $8k, I could understand that. Eddie wanted to beat Vincent's best game and he thought he had. I think Eddie saw that hustling was not so special. He learned that being the best that you can be at something is more important than hustling. I think he finally got that. I'm with you, I would have loved to see another movie to see what happened after that. Eddie wasn't talking about hustling at the end of the movie. He was saying I'll beat you in Atlanta next week and if not there, then Dallas or somewhere else. My understanding is that these were all tournaments not hustling events.

Rick
 
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OK, try this. If, as many of you suggest, Amos is referring to his physical weight. Replay the scene, but when Amos says, "Do you think I should lose some weight?" substitute "Do you think I should go on a diet?"

I rest my case.

1-P
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What is the case? The line would have the same exact meaning. He was just being an ass. He just beat Eddie. Eddie is sitting there upset, wondering if he just got hustled, then Amos asks a dumb ass question like that as if to say, "screw you, old man", letting Eddie, and the audience know, that yes, Amos was hustling him all along.

The only time that any mention of "weight" was used in the movie, it wasn't refered to as "weight". There was the time when they did the "two men and a brother" hustle, where Vince went into the place and talked about giving up "the 8, the 7, the 7 AND 8", and then there was the time when Vince asked Grady Seasons (hey, I know that guy) "up your ass with the spot, ok by you?" There *might* have been mention of a spot after Vince beat Julian in the beginning of the movie, but that is about it. The meaning of the line is so obvious. At the point that Eddie has lost, Eddie doesn't know if he was hustled, and neither does the audience. Amos makes a smart ass comment, it becomes apparent he was hustling him all along, and Eddie goes off, buys glasses, starts swimming/working out/whatever, and practicing ... and I'm sure we all know the rest of the story.

You guys have a guy who was IN the movie saying that he thought the line was referring to physical weight, and that he was just needling Eddie. What more is needed other than the obvious?
 
The ribbing is when amos says i dont know i lose i pay then he tells eddie to keep the money remember?later,dennis
 
Amos started his spin by telling Eddie that he was a "subject" in a college study on mind motor coordination. Amos is so self effacing and seemingly simple - reeling Eddie into his web. It's so simple "you don't have to pay" but Eddie has character and does. Some matches go on without any dialog like with Eddie who says little but Amos makes the match interesting with the story of his stunted life.
Amos could have lost some weight by keeping quiet and thereby not messing with Eddie's mind (like a spot)- then we would have lost interest.
 
I think he is refering to his size... and does anyone know if the writer played pool in the first place?
 
Amos was just breaking Eddies balls after he beat him. Actually i took it as Eddie let him beat him so Vincent could see what a real dumping was. Theres no way eddie let this guy beat him, it was a lesson for Vincent. Anyone remember the dialogue in the hallway after that match, it says everything.
 
Physical weight. To say the line had a double meaning is giving it more credit than it deserved and also isn't consistent with the rest of the dialogue in the movie.
 
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