Common misconceptions

[slide13]

I've often heard people say that large diameter shafts are more forgiving of slight mishits because the contact point doesn't move as much, but that's not true. Given the same tip shape then the only time it's more forgiving is when you get to the point of a miscue on the smaller diameter tip.

Now, a flatter profiled tip would be more forgiving, regardless of shaft diameter.

 

[Lexicologist71]

I finally remembered one that hasn't been mentioned. "Good cues have finish all the way to the ferrule."

 

[PaulieB]

-Elkmaster tips are impregnated with chalk

Heh, this one I hear all the time. I even see it advertised on some resellers sites.

http://www.billiardsboutique.com/elkmaster-cue-tips---10mm-box-of-50-2304-p.asp

I also like when someone says "Tip XYZ really puts sidespin on the cue ball but it doesn't draw very well". Huh? The tip only applies spin in one direction?

 

[Lexicologist71]

Heh, this one I hear all the time. I even see it advertised on some resellers sites.

http://www.billiardsboutique.com/elkmaster-cue-tips---10mm-box-of-50-2304-p.asp

I also like when someone says "Tip XYZ really puts sidespin on the cue ball but it doesn't draw very well". Huh? The tip only applies spin in one direction?

A near cousin to that is the tip that spins the ball without having to hit off center. As if that is a good thing too.

 

[classiccues]

What do you hear most often? Here are a few off the top of my head.

-heavier cues break harder
-soft tips 'grip' the cue ball longer
-Elkmaster tips are impregnated with chalk

Cuemakers can tell time.

JV

 

[akaminski]

I always hear people say (when referring to veneers) that they are inlays


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[cueman]

Cuemakers can tell time.

JV

That is funny.

 

[cueman]

I always hear people say (when referring to veneers) that they are inlays


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This one reminds me of a customer who looked at a bunch of butterfly work in one of my cues and said that he "does not like all that CNC stuff."

 

[AtLarge]

Enough about the physics of breaks. You are free to start an independent thread to discuss it. I'd like to get back on topic...

But I think those who have discussed it here really should read what Dr. Dave has to say about it: http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/cue.html#weight

 

[ratcues]

This one reminds me of a customer who looked at a bunch of butterfly work in one of my cues and said that he "does not like all that CNC stuff."

I hear players when they look at cues and say "those are made by computers..." That is one of my favorites.

 

[MVPCues]

Many times people think any white in their cue is ivory. Sometimes it is easier to just not say anything.

Also, there is a perception by some that a certain amount of mother of pearl is worth literally thousands. "But...that is MOTHER OF PEARL."

 

[ratcues]

Many times people think any white in their cue is ivory. Sometimes it is easier to just not say anything.

Also, there is a perception by some that a certain amount of mother of pearl is worth literally thousands. "But...that is MOTHER OF PEARL."

I broke a few hearts with that one as well. I keep my mouth shut unless the owner specifically asks me. I hate that moment when their face goes white and blank. They often get embarrassed because they have been telling people, for years, that their cue is worth a fortune.

 

[JoeyInCali]

3-point Meuccis are collectible cues.
Pro taper means straight barrel for yay long.

 

[Russell Cues]

Many times people think any white in their cue is ivory. Sometimes it is easier to just not say anything.

Also, there is a perception by some that a certain amount of mother of pearl is worth literally thousands. "But...that is MOTHER OF PEARL."

I have a pic in my gallery photos of a cue with long white points. It appears there is a litte grain in it, just enough. Well I Had to tell the guy it wasn't ivory points as he insisted they were, despite me being the builder, and offered 2k for it. Mind you 2k would have been nice but not for elforyn points. Embarrassed is putting it lightly when everyone he was crowing to heard what the points really were.

Only ivory is in the stitch rings...like Ron White states, " you cant fix stupid".

 

[MVPCues]

I have a pic in my gallery photos of a cue with long white points. It appears there is a litte grain in it, just enough. Well I Had to tell the guy it wasn't ivory points as he insisted they were, despite me being the builer, and offered 2k for it. Mind you 2k would have been nice but not for elforyn points. Embarrassed is putting it lightly when everyone he was crowing to heard what the points really were.

Only ivory is in the stitch rings...like Ron White states, " you cant fix stupid".

Arguing with the actual builder is priceless!

 

[eddie0776]

I think the idea is that most would have a better chance at hitting 25mph with a 17oz than 25oz cue. What you asked is basically like asking what's heavier, a pound of rocks or a pound of feathers.

A 6oz cueball traveling at 25mph is constant, regardless of what launched it. Take the person and the cue out of the equation and I suppose the cloth type/condition would be the other variable that effects cue ball speed.

In the end it's really subjective anyway. I've tried extra heavy break cues and I've tried extra light break cues, but I've settled on a break cue that's the same weight as my playing cue. It's just what I feel gives me the best combination of power and control.

That is really what I was getting at...no matter what the weight of the cue the cue ball's EK shall not be changed. The purpose of having a heavier break cue is so you don't have to swing your arm as hard to get the cue ball moving to the desired speed. You can swing an 18oz cue faster but you don't have to with a heavier cue. An example is would you rather get hit by a train at 15mph or a VW bug? The cue also has its own EK that gets transferred in the hit. I can take my break cue and crush the balls and take my buddys cue and not get the same effect breaking the same way.

 

[JAlan]

Had a guy tell me once 20 something years ago that his 5 piece pool cue was MUCH better than the 2 piece McDermott D series cue I was using at the time. His 5 piece cue had more pieces so therefore it hit the balls much more accurately than my cheap 2 piece cue did.....

I beat him out of $7 playing a dollar a game 9 ball, he went to his truck to get his money and I'm still waiting for him to return.

Somehow he even snuck his cue out with him...damn those high end easily concealable 5 piece cues!

 

[NY9912]

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[ratcues]

One get on regular basis is for replacement butt caps. People think there are completely finished parts that are added onto the cue once it is done. I have to explain that most all cue parts are over-sized and turned along with the cue.

 

[pescadoman]

Either one would knock a person on their ass equally as fast. I think the real question is, which one has a better chance of hitting 15 mph in say 3 seconds

Train...

After the fall I'm pretty sure the train would pass over me safely. The bug....not so much...

This is assuming both continue moving.. If both were to stop asap after collision, then the bug.