Completely ridiculous behaviour of an AZ Member

shinobi

kanadajindayo
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This is not a "warning". Rather, it's something I felt the need to post publicly for my own sanity. Perhaps you will understand after reading this.

There is a member on here that I've decided not to name. We met through the AZ forums and have spoken on MSN Messenger many times. The conversations have always been friendly, if not entertaining. He's purchased some items from me in the past and I have no complaints about those transactions (He was a good buyer).

Recently, we spoke of a case he has for sale on here. We decided to do a trade. I was to ship him a couple items for the case. We confirmed the deal and he said "Done deal". I replied in kind that I was confirming the deal and he confirmed yet again that the case was mine.

The very next morning I receive a PM telling me that he's changed his mind. The deal is off. His reason? He decided he doesn't need the items anymore.

While I'm upset he broke his word, I understand we all make mistakes. Plus, I don't want to pressure him into accepting something he doesn't want. So when he offers me three new trade scenarios, I accept "#3" and write him to confirm the new deal (which was a cue he wanted).

A short while later, he PMs me again to cancel that second deal. This time his excuse is that his gf convinced him he doesn't need that cue badly. If his gf's opinion was vital to making the deal, he should have asked her before making the new deal (obviously).

I tell him that I am really pissed that he behaved like this, but that we can stay on good terms. I tell him that for the sake of our friendship, he should just sell the case to someone else, and I'll forget about it.

Instead, he asks if I will accept another one of his trade proposals. Another item on that list of three items he said he wanted. This time it should be no problem because it's a cue his girlfriend wants, not him. I guess I should have been talking to her all along then :D I accept his trade proposal, and we confirm it as seriously as you can confirm a deal with someone who has just broken their word twice. As you can imagine, I accept the deal with a grain of salt. I don't even care if I get the case -- I'm mostly curious to see if he'll screw me over again despite his careful assurances to the contrary.

Sure enough, less than a day later, I find a PM subject "Deal is off". I almost have to laugh, it's so absurd. This time it's the gf that changed her own mind, apparently. She wanted the cue, and now she doesn't.

Notable contents include:

"I think you gonna be surprised that the deal is off for the case and the cue..the reason for this is that my gf change her mind..."

and

"i apologize for this and i know you probably will not be happy about my decision..hope you understand my decision...hope this decision of mine will not ruin our friendship...if it will..i can't do anything about it..sorry again..."

I'm not angry, but disappointed that anyone could behave this way. I have no ill will towards the guy (which is why I did not name names). I just give up!

Comments?
 
If I were in your shoes, I would feel exactly the same way.

Unfortunately, many people feel that when they agree to a deal they have a right to back out for no good reason at all. Then to do it over and over is really the icing on the cake.

I would try to stay on good terms with the person, but refuse to consider any other proposals for trades or sales, just to keep my own sanity.
 
How about this

He is his girlfriend and has a scizo tendancy to be unhappy with every thing you are happy with once he realizes he might have actually made a deal you like. I have someone I have sold cues for years just like that and my wife wounders why I waiste time with the guy. Well he is a flake but I like him and that is why. He is always trying to get every last penny out of every deal never finishes the deal that he proposes! His mind is in constant flux a true genius so I wounder if your friend is mensa and take your kindness for stupidity! Sometimes I will say stupid trade offers just to watch his expression then before he answers say NAAAAAAAAA I better not. Tit for Tat AY See how he likes his own medicine is what I say. You can have a laugh at his expense then ask him how the bitter pill taisted! Good luck! Nick
 
life happens

It's not ridiculous it's just the way things happen.I deal with the public daily, as I own a retail business just chalk it up to experience in dealing with the public.I've had potential customers want to purchase the item only to have a significant other or a friend talk them out of it ...
 
justnick said:
It's not ridiculous it's just the way things happen.I deal with the public daily, as I own a retail business just chalk it up to experience in dealing with the public.I've had potential customers want to purchase the item only to have a significant other or a friend talk them out of it ...

Did you actually read what I wrote? Honestly...
 
shinobi said:
Comments?

What a FLAKE! Bi-polar FLAKE! El Flako. Flakoid. Flak-o-rama. Don't even worry about staying friendly - just politely tell him to F O & D and never think about it again. Life's too short, man!

He's not one you want in your circle of influence. A good-healthy-California- attitude remark would be like " No hard feelings (dude); it's just that you're a FLAKE and I don't want to interact with you again. Ever." :p :p

Does make you wonder where his girlfriend keeps his SPINE for him, cause it's obvious he ain't got one :D :D :D

-von
 
Crikey...... I wonder if he asks his girlfriend when he can go the bathroom as well...

Seriously, my wife stays out of my pool stuff and trading business. That guy needs to sack up and give his girlfriend a 5-across-the-eye.
 
not worth such complicated trade and discussion over a case, unless its a unique case, just buy one!
 
VonRhett said:
What a FLAKE! Bi-polar FLAKE! El Flako. Flakoid. Flak-o-rama. Don't even worry about staying friendly - just politely tell him to F O & D and never think about it again. Life's too short, man!

He's not one you want in your circle of influence. A good-healthy-California- attitude remark would be like " No hard feelings (dude); it's just that you're a FLAKE and I don't want to interact with you again. Ever." :p :p

Does make you wonder where his girlfriend keeps his SPINE for him, cause it's obvious he ain't got one :D :D :D

-von

Maybe the girlfriend is the only one with a job so it's her money. If it's his money and he is letting her jerk him around like that, it's a little weird.
 
ive dealt with people like that........i like them personally but they just suck when it comes to business deals, etc. I usually keep them on as a friend, but i never ever everrrrrrrrrrrrr do any type of serious business with them or take them seriously ever again. In fact like someone b4 mentioned, ill occasionally make deals or talk business with someone like that just for laughs, because i know they wont follow thru on anything, and here they are making deals and talking and im barely listening because i know its going to fall thru, then you get to hear all their excuses later why it fell thru. Eventually even they get to see how ridiculous they are I think.
 
Sounds like it's time to give him the curb kick and move on...
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raemondo said:
I think it's a funny story! (but I would be 10 times more pissed than you are right now)

I guess I'm just too nice.

Or, I might have not named the culprit so nobody would connect me to the scene of the crime when something bad happens :D
 
Ktown D said:
I think that comment just became an instant classic. :eek: :D

Originally Posted by 1pRoscoe
That guy needs to sack up and give his girlfriend a 5-across-the-eye.

I was becoming disappointed I bothered to open this thread until I read that zinger. Good one!
 
1pRoscoe said:
Crikey...... I wonder if he asks his girlfriend when he can go the bathroom as well...

Seriously, my wife stays out of my pool stuff and trading business. That guy needs to sack up and give his girlfriend a 5-across-the-eye.


I was thinking good for the girl friend that she has such a well trained boyfriend.
Don't fault the trainer when the breed is weak.:eek:

Have a happy happy day
Mrs.g
 
Possible reply.
Dear so & so,
No problem whatsoever, I enjoy communication with you, so not a big deal at all that the previous deals didn’t work out. I think this new scenario though might work (fours a charm). For you and your GF.. I have a cue called Szamboti with some original documentation and the original box from a Gus Szamboti (I know you don’t care about the box.. I don’t either, just thought I’d mention it)… that I’ve been wanting to unload cause the veneers are sharper than I’m accustomed to. And also, it rolls too straight and
I’m used to a slight wobble in my playing stuff. I’m not sure of the value. I hear that Szambotis are pretty good, but this appears to be an older design cue and I like new stuff. It does not appear to have been played however, and all three shafts are like brand new, but they are all 13mm and I like just under 12mm.
Anyway, if you want, I would trade for your case cause I really do want that case!
Just let me know buddy. (Ya, you can guess your reply after he is so excited he cant sleep all night)…. Maybe.. SORRY, DEAL IS OFF CHANGE OF MIND, SORRY BUD.. hope this doesn’t affect the friendship!
 
Gett'n the shaft

Within the past 2 weeks Shinobi had a shaft for sale. We sent IMs and haggeled a little and then agreed. For both of us it was a "done deal", a committment. I got the shaft :D , and he got the cash. Good Deal.

Charlie
 
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