Unscrewing while an opponent is shooting the game winning shot is considered conceding the game under World Standardized Rules. What are some other examples of this such as picking up quarters for the next game, etc?
Concession of Game
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Approaching the table / getting out of your chair / grabbing the ball rack / retrieving balls from a pocket while opponent is preparing to shoot the winning shot. A little more controversial is any number of verbal statements made by the opponent insinuating the game is over while the shooter is preparing to shoot the winning shot.
However I would say getting out of your chair or moving closer to the table would not be considered a concession, as long as that person is behind the shooter to the extent there is no possible way the shooter sees or hears the opponent approaching.
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Since pool is supposed to be a gentlemanly game:: What is the rush ?
Guys who stand near the table and inch closer to the table as you are running out. LOL
This also brings another issue: namely, how close can you legitimately stand in your opponent’s line of sight when watching for the hit? When does ‘refereeing‘ become ‘sharking’?
That is great, but it's rare that someone else won't be bothered a little bit by certain actions. For example, a guy on our league whistles while he plays all the time. Even though he doesn't do it while his opponent is shooting it still annoying and aggravating.
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True, for sure. I get sharked a little bit by people standing up before I shoot the last ball. I try to see it as a challenge, rather than something to become upset about.
If someone is really bad about it, I'll stand up and grab the rack without shooting. After a few times of that, they generally will settle down.
when you see what looks like a concession just walk away to where you would go if you just won. dont mess with the balls.
so he cant claim anything.
ive had lots of times a player started unscrewing his cue. i still shot the balls out as i didnt win until then. or maybe a few times i might have asked if he conceded.
so he cant claim anything.
ive had lots of times a player started unscrewing his cue. i still shot the balls out as i didnt win until then. or maybe a few times i might have asked if he conceded.
How about when your opponent gives you the nine, verbally. I have seen guys shoot it anyway and miss, then the whining begins.
Pool Hand Luke
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What if it's the last game, and the cue being unscrewed is the break cue? You ever know what some guys will do.
You should still not move like that while the opponent is shooting. There is a movie like I like to use when it comes to this, and some other things like people complaining that the police hit them, "don't start nothin', won't be nothin' "
I have seen arguments over people sticking their hand in the pocket to grab a cueball, then it does not actually fall in, and they are accused of it hitting their hand. To the point that one local weekly tournament made it a rule that you can't do that anymore. If you don't do it in the first place, it won't be an issue. Don't move till the last ball is in the hole and the cueball is not moving anymore, nothing to start anything about, the extra 3 seconds of waiting won't kill anyone.
I'm used to this, happens a lot in league where I play, doesn't bother me and not something I would ever call. But I also avoid doing so myself just to avoid issues and not get in the habit of it because I know it could be problematic in other settings.
Curious, do you have a link for this?
WPA General Rules World Pool Billiard Association
1.11 Concession
If a player concedes, he loses the match. For example, if a player unscrews his jointed playing
cue stick while the opponent is at the table and during the opponent’s decisive rack of a
match, it will be considered a concession of the match.
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Most generally the rules of various pool leagues and associations refere to these rules as a base for their groups rules. Then these various groups have modifications or additions to these rules. It is a good idea to download to your phone or buy a copy of WPA rules for reference during league play clarification.
6.17 Unsportsmanlike Conduct
The normal penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct is the same as for a serious foul, but the
referee may impose a penalty depending on his judgment of the conduct. Among other
penalties possible are a warning; a standard-foul penalty, which will count as part of a threefoul
sequence if applicable; a serious-foul penalty; loss of a rack, set or match; ejection from
the competition possibly with forfeiture of all prizes, trophies and standings points.
Unsportsmanlike conduct is any intentional behavior that brings disrepute to the sport or
which disrupts or changes the game to the extent that it cannot be played fairly. It includes
(a) distracting the opponent;
(b) changing the position of the balls in play other than by a shot;
(c) playing a shot by intentionally miscuing;
(d) continuing to play after a foul has been called or play has been suspended;
(e) practicing during a match;
(f) marking the table;
(g) delay of the game; and
(h) using equipment inappropriately.
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This is an educational thread for me, being somewhat new to the game, I never realized these particular rules. I hope I don't forget them and fall into the trap of doing these things. It would be a tough pill to swallow to lose a match this way.
Either player unscrewing their break cue after the hill-hill break should not be considered a concession. Obviously they won’t need it any more for the rest of that match.
However, if the opponent chooses to do it while the shooter is on the last few balls of their runout, then yes, that act should be considered sharking and an argument for a concession could certainly be made.
To me, your assessment is a bit vague for my comfort level. Not meaning to be disrespectful at all, but when is it that point that only a few balls are left? Is it three balls four balls two balls or what? I would like to see ruling on what your comment tried to say.
1-4 balls left for a roadmap runout that a player is likely to get out most of the time, in the hill-hill game, and the opponent chooses that moment to get out of his chair to start breaking down his cue in plain sight of the shooter. To me, that’s a concession, regardless of which cue they are breaking down,
If they’re going to unscrew / put away their break cue, it should be done the first chance they get following their own break, once they are on the hill, assuming winner breaks.
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