Concession of Game

couldnthinkof01

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Generally, you can make a lot more money off of someone who tries to shark you than someone who doesn't. It has something to do with impulse control or maturity level.
Honestly, I can play through it. I see it as weakness and I play better.
I'm just dumbfounded on how many full grown adults just can't simply sit quietly when it's not their turn, keep there cue screwed together, and be polite during and after the game.
 

DynoDan

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Here’s a scenario - You’re opponent is wearing airpods. He has an easy 9-ball shot to win the match and you verbally tell him you concede, but due to the airpods, he doesn’t see or hear you and he shoots and misses. Is the game over?
The game isn’t over if your opponent is still shooting, regardless of your actions (IMHO). Absent a referee, he is acting as such. If he doesn’t know the rules, he can’t legitimately perform the function. A concession must be somehow acknowledged (however vaguely) to be valid.
BTW: One result of the ‘no smoking allowed’ trend: A common barroom sharking maneuver no longer exists: Namely, standing next to your target pocket while blowing cheap cigar smoke over it! 😁
 

maha

from way back when
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i grew up in a pool room when you played people sat on tables all around you and talked all the time even during your shots. you got used to it or or not. i dont care if someone unscrews their stick, its done all the time when they think you will run out the last few balls. more power to them.
if i am sitting in the chair i am not freezing in place for the shooter. i may move some and scratch my nose or head if i want to, get used to it.
i am not a robot. i am in the chair.

if that bothers you what else in life is so upsetting.
 

a1712

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Had a dude say "Good Match" after he missed a shot, I had 3 balls and the 8 to go and we had games left to play. I took the match. He bitched, Tournament Director told him tough luck. Brian.
 

DDiabolico

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In my understanding, unscrewing a cue while the opponent is at the table, is a concession. If it's the last rack and you want to put away your break cue, just let your opponent know before the break or initially after the break. In many cases, everything will be fine if properly communicated.

In terms of sharking when there isn't a referee at the table, I tend to mess with my opponents if they try to shark me. If my opponent is sitting in my line of view and he intentionally moves around or grabs something to play around, I get up again. If he doesn't stop, I'll just watch him and often enough they'll then ask me what I'm waiting for. I'll politely tell them I'm just waiting for him to finish what he started doing while I was down on my shot. This works anytime your opponent intentionally or unintentionally does soemthing that may get to you when you're at the table.
 

ChrisinNC

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In my understanding, unscrewing a cue while the opponent is at the table, is a concession. If it's the last rack and you want to put away your break cue, just let your opponent know before the break or initially after the break. In many cases, everything will be fine if properly communicated.

In terms of sharking when there isn't a referee at the table, I tend to mess with my opponents if they try to shark me. If my opponent is sitting in my line of view and he intentionally moves around or grabs something to play around, I get up again. If he doesn't stop, I'll just watch him and often enough they'll then ask me what I'm waiting for. I'll politely tell them I'm just waiting for him to finish what he started doing while I was down on my shot. This works anytime your opponent intentionally or unintentionally does soemthing that may get to you when you're at the table.
I would say you have the right to request your opponent to move to another chair or location if they don’t have the courtesy to remain completely still, if sitting directly in your line on a key shot. Some of our players automatically move even without being asked, out of courtesy to their opponent.
 

maha

from way back when
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yea, ask them to move if they are in your way in some manner. how hard is that. its your fault that they bother you with movements.

i generally stand and out of the way. but it isnt my obligation to not move at all because of him. i am not a statue. if he wants me to move all he has to do is say where to and he can go to that spot as well between shots.

it seems the gamblers never have these issues. just the league players and fun players. they miss all the time and need someone to blame it on.
 

justadub

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There are a couple of people in our APA league that will start to get the rack off the wall, and it drives me nuts. I never keep it together enough to stop my stroke and ask them if they are conceding, tho afterwards I always insist that I will "next time". ;)

Occasionally I notice people will have their cue resting in their hand, and will just go and set it on the holders next to the chairs. That's kind of the same sort of crap too, but for some reason it doesn't annoy me as much. (And I try to stop myself from doing it, as well, subconsciously.)
 

ChrisinNC

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Occasionally I notice people will have their cue resting in their hand, and will just go and set it on the holders next to the chairs. That's kind of the same sort of crap too, but for some reason it doesn't annoy me as much. (And I try to stop myself from doing it, as well, subconsciously.)
I would concur that just setting your cue down as a sharking tactic is starting to get a little ridiculous. To me, that means nothing more than that person (or myself if I do it) is realizing that it may be at least a few more shots until they get back to the table. It would certainly be quite a stretch to consider that as sharking, in my opinion.

However, if the timing of doing it coincides with just before your opponent pulls the trigger on the winning shot and you are in their sightline. In that case, yes, that’s clearly a shark move.
 
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trob

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It’s always been the rule in my area for leagues or tournaments. I walk over and shake their hand when they’ve done it and they always look stunned lol It’s a half shark move and a concession. I’m betting the people on this thread wining it isn’t are the same people that have done it lol
 

ChrisinNC

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It’s always been the rule in my area for leagues or tournaments. I walk over and shake their hand when they’ve done it and they always look stunned lol It’s a half shark move and a concession. I’m betting the people on this thread wining it isn’t are the same people that have done it lol
It would be helpful if you clarified as to what post and exactly what action you are referring / replying to as a shark move?
 
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SeniorTom

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shark
Also pool shark, poolshark (US); sharp, pool sharp (British)

1. Verb: To perform some act or make some utterance with the intent to distract, irritate or intimidate the opponent so that they do not perform well, miss a shot, etc.[6] Most league and tournament rules forbid blatant sharking, as a form of unsportsmanlike conduct, but it is very common in bar pool.2. Noun: Another term for hustler.[6]3. Noun: A very good player. This usage is common among non-players who often intend it as a compliment and are not aware of its derogatory senses (above).[6]
 

trob

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It would be helpful if you clarified as to what post and exactly what action you are referring / replying to as a shark move?
In my area it’s always been considered a shark move.. breaking your cue down in front of someone to get them to miss. Pretty basic… I’m not sure what the confusion is.
 

ChrisinNC

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In my area it’s always been considered a shark move.. breaking your cue down in front of someone to get them to miss. Pretty basic… I’m not sure what the confusion is.
Sorry, but the text I posted just before yours referred to an opponent in his chair setting his cue down and whether that could be considered as a shark move, as a post just before mine had brought up.
 

SeniorTom

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Okay, I am a believer if you are breaking down your cue stick in front of your opponent it is a concession and a game should be ended right there and then. I am just wondering why that rule is, I have my own reason, but I wonder what other people consider a good reason for such a rule.
 

cjr3559

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Not a fan of concessions, but if permitted they should be strictly reserved for when a player is on the hill. In tournament play middle of match concessions are bad form and should result in automatic forfeiture of the next game.

Supposedly these were the rules at DCC but from what I've seen on YT there plenty of concessions and the forfeiture rules were not enforced.
 
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