Concession of Game

[KissedOut]

Since pool is supposed to be a gentlemanly game:: What is the rush ?

LOL

 

[SeniorTom]

1-4 balls left for a roadmap runout that a player is likely to get out most of the time, in the hill-hill game, and the opponent chooses that moment to get out of his chair to start breaking down his cue in plain sight of the shooter. To me, that’s a concession, regardless of which cue they are breaking down,

If they’re going to unscrew / put away their break cue, it should be done the first chance they get following their own break, once they are on the hill, assuming winner breaks.

To you, that is a concession, but what do the rules specifically about that? Is your comment from the rule book?

 

[ChrisinNC]

To you, that is a concession, but what do the rules specifically about that? Is your comment from the rule book?

I have no idea if any rule book addresses any or all the various actions that constitute a concession. I’m referring to what most experienced tournament players widely consider as actions that constitute a concession, and that most experienced TD’s will confirm.

 

[Gatz]

Kind of like this. Definite forfeit of rack. Sharking at it's finest.

 

[Bob Jewett]

Kind of like this. Definite forfeit of rack. Sharking at it's finest.

Really scummy move by Anton Raga.

 

[Tennesseejoe]

To you, that is a concession, but what do the rules specifically about that? Is your comment from the rule book?

Go back to post #16...Look down to 6.17 Unsportsmanship Conduct (a)

 

[Cue Alchemist]

I remember once at an event, daryl peach was shooting the 9 for the win. And just before he shot. The guy got up and started unscrewing his jump cue. Fair to say the crowd, did not react well to that.Respect for your opponent was a big thing. At the events I went too.

Also seen players, walking over as your about to rack, the balls.Trying to, get in your head. And talking crap. As your close to wining the match, These guys. Will generally be watched. Then thay stop.

 

[maha]

you guys sure worry a lot about the little things in life.

the game is over when the last ball is made or the opponent rakes in the balls.
any other concession is between the two of you and voluntary.

if sharking bothers you take up tiddly winks.

 

[SeniorTom]

Kind of like this. Definite forfeit of rack. Sharking at it's finest.

Thanks for posting , good info. The more I think about an opponent breaking down their cue stick and putting it away, I agree it does change the mindset of the remaining shooter to a point where it becomes not fair. It's almost like it puts more pressure on shooter to make the shot to validate the reason someone is breaking down their stick. I would have a tendency to say to myself "I've got to make these shots because these last few are assumed such easy shots."

 

[buckshotshoey]

You should still not move like that while the opponent is shooting. There is a movie like I like to use when it comes to this, and some other things like people complaining that the police hit them, "don't start nothin', won't be nothin' "

I have seen arguments over people sticking their hand in the pocket to grab a cueball, then it does not actually fall in, and they are accused of it hitting their hand. To the point that one local weekly tournament made it a rule that you can't do that anymore. If you don't do it in the first place, it won't be an issue. Don't move till the last ball is in the hole and the cueball is not moving anymore, nothing to start anything about, the extra 3 seconds of waiting won't kill anyone.

That's pretty much a rule on every league I've ever played in.

 

[SeniorTom]

you guys sure worry a lot about the little things in life.

the game is over when the last ball is made or the opponent rakes in the balls.
any other concession is between the two of you and voluntary.

if sharking bothers you take up tiddly winks.

Sorry, I disagree. Just like any other sport their psychology involved. I can see that breaking down a que can get into the head of your opponent and cause him to miss. It is a rude tactic that can influence the outcome.

 

[ChrisinNC]

Sorry, I disagree. Just like any other sport their psychology involved. I can see that breaking down a que can get into the head of your opponent and cause him to miss. It is a rude tactic that can influence the outcome.

Here’s a scenario - You’re opponent is wearing airpods. He has an easy 9-ball shot to win the match and you verbally tell him you concede, but due to the airpods, he doesn’t see or hear you and he shoots and misses. Is the game over?

 

[Lawnboy77]

Really scummy move by Anton Raga.

I see it a little different. I really think he did concede, but he was so upset with himself and wasn’t thinking clearly enough to properly communicate the concession. Still wrong, but maybe more of an honest mistake as opposed to a scummy move.

 

[SeniorTom]

Here’s a scenario - You’re opponent is wearing airpods. He has an easy 9-ball shot to win the match and you verbally tell him you concede, but due to the airpods, he doesn’t see or hear you and he shoots and misses. Is the game over?

My understanding would suggest that airpods are illegal in the first place according to the rules, and wouldn't be allowed. Secondly, if communication is not succeeded, in other words he doesn't hear you, then there is no concession.

 

[9Ballr]

This also brings another issue: namely, how close can you legitimately stand in your opponent’s line of sight when watching for the hit? When does ‘refereeing‘ become ‘sharking’?

I personally don't care how close people stand as long as they stand still.

 

[SeniorTom]

I personally don't care how close people stand as long as they stand still.

A similar conversation occurred in a golf forum I was in, pertaining to where an individual can stand on the Tee Box while their opponent is teeing off. Most people agree that as long as you stand at a fair distance and don't move, and keep quiet, everybody is okay with that.

 

[9Ballr]

WPA General Rules World Pool Billiard Association
1.11 Concession

If a player concedes, he loses the match. For example, if a player unscrews his jointed playing
cue stick while the opponent is at the table and during the opponent’s decisive rack of a
match, it will be considered a concession of the match.

Is that specifically only for the play cue or does the break cue count for "playing cue stick"?
I see people unscrew their break cue all the time when it's the last game anyway.

 

[Coos Cues]

When someone says "nice shot" after a not particularly challenging pot I consider it sharking.

When they on the other hand say "nice out" I always immediately say thank you with a smile and shake their hand.

Doesn't matter how many balls are left on the table.

If they object I tell them to keep quiet next time, this game is over.

If I miss the money ball after they do this I don't even blame them anymore. I blame myself.

Never ever shoot after being congratulated. There is no up side.

 

[buckshotshoey]

Here's my feeling on concessions...
I won't deny my opponents the experience you get when sinking the money ball for the win. The reciprocal is also true...I don't want to be denied my experience sinking the money ball for the win. I won't concede and I don't want to be handed anything I didn't earn.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

you guys sure worry a lot about the little things in life.

the game is over when the last ball is made or the opponent rakes in the balls.
any other concession is between the two of you and voluntary.

if sharking bothers you take up tiddly winks.

If you need to shark for any reason please stay away from a pool table, nobody wants that B.S.