Consensus "Greatest of All Time" (GOAT) List

All of my 2nd-round vote points (5) go to Wu Chia-ching.

He won two major world championships at 16! He also places high or wins every top event he enters, and he is the current world top player (according to FargoRate). He doesn't yet have the longevity and large number of wins as some of the other players on the list, but he certainly has GOAT skills.

I look forward to seeing how the voting pans out in this second round.

Regards,
Dave
 
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dr_dave said:
All of my 2nd-round vote points (5) go to Wu Chia-ching.

He won two major world championships at 16! He also places high or wins every top events he enters, and he is the current world top player (according to FargoRate). He doesn't yet have the longevity and large number of wins as some of the other players on the list, but he certainly has GOAT skills.
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FYI, I added my name and score to the first post.

After 1 vote, here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 156
2 - Shane Van Boening - 75
3 - Earl Strickland - 73
4 - Nick Varner - 73
5 - Alex Pagulayan - 66
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Johnny Archer - 43
9 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
10 - Buddy Hall - 42

Regards,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind.
 
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highkarate said:
Efren gets all 5 points from me.
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highkarate said:
Ahhh I see. Top 10 GOAT is much more interesting. In that case, I will award all 5 points to Dennis O. He may not have the trophies of the other top 10, but he has held the top dog money player status for over a decade
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According to the first post, you are not allowed to change your vote. But since this was the first time this came up, and since you got it in before the first-round deadline, I will add Dennis to the list.

Thanks,
Dave
 
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Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 156
2 - Shane Van Boening - 75
3 - Earl Strickland - 73
4 - Nick Varner - 73
5 - Alex Pagulayan - 66
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind.
 
dr_dave said:
According to the first post, you are not allowed to change your vote. But since this was the first time this came up, and since you got it in before the first-round deadline, I will change your vote and add Dennis to the list.

Thanks,
Dave
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wouldn't that push wu out of the top 10 and make your own second round vote invalid?
 
skogstokig said:
wouldn't that push wu out of the top 10 and make your own second round vote invalid?
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Since the rules prohibited changing votes, I should have been firm and not allow Dennis into the Top 10. I think the only simple and fair solution at this point is to keep Buddy Hall on the list (and expand 10 to 11 for now) since he got bumped in the shuffle. Sorry for the confusion. When second-round voting is done (on 6/30/2019), I will drop the 11th spot.

Regards,
Dave
 
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Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 156
2 - Shane Van Boening - 75
3 - Earl Strickland - 73
4 - Nick Varner - 73
5 - Alex Pagulayan - 66
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

Thank you for participating,
Dave


PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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dr_dave said:
From the first post:

Note that I have not included players from the too-distant past. For example, arguments can be made that Mosconi, Greenleaf, Lassiter, Hoppe, Cranfield, Crane, DeOro, Lindrum, Caras (and others) deserve to be on the list, but I purposely excluded them since it is too difficult for most people to compare them to players in the modern era. I at least give them honorable mention here.

Please vote for the players on the current list if you want to participate.

Thanks,
Dave
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Fine...then you can't use the term "GOAT". Greatest modern era, whatever, but not All Time. Points of comparison notwithstanding, just straight up championships and comparisons from their respective eras would count in a comparison. That said, "Efren 5" for me. And for the record, I think he gives the old timers the 7 regardless, so he's the GOAT as far as I'm concerned.
 
West Point 1987 said:
Fine...then you can't use the term "GOAT". Greatest modern era, whatever, but not All Time. Points of comparison notwithstanding, just straight up championships and comparisons from their respective eras would count in a comparison.
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Good points, but how far back should we go? There were many great players before Mosconi's time. I realistically had to draw the line somewhere, and I chose 1970. I would prefer not change "GOAT" to "GITME" (Greatest In The Modern Era), but maybe I should. But then nobody would know what I'm talking about. :sorry:

West Point 1987 said:
That said, "Efren 5" for me. And for the record, I think he gives the old timers the 7 regardless, so he's the GOAT as far as I'm concerned.
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FYI, I added your name and scores to the first post.

After 2 second-round votes, here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 161
2 - Shane Van Boening - 75
3 - Earl Strickland - 73
4 - Nick Varner - 73
5 - Alex Pagulayan - 66
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

Thank you for participating,
Dave
 
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TX Poolnut said:
Second round Efren 3, Earl 1, Shane 1.
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FYI, I added your name and scores to the first post.

After 3 second-round votes, here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 164
2 - Shane Van Boening - 76
3 - Earl Strickland - 74
4 - Nick Varner - 73
5 - Alex Pagulayan - 66
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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Runnintable said:
I would like to add 3 for Alex P. and 2 for Reyes.
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FYI, I added your name and scores to the first post.

After 4 second-round votes, here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 166
2 - Shane Van Boening - 76
3 - Earl Strickland - 74
4 - Nick Varner - 73
5 - Alex Pagulayan - 69
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
JazzyJeff87 said:
I’ll put 5 on Alex the l p.
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FYI, I added your name and score to the first post.

After 5 second-round votes, here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 166
2 - Shane Van Boening - 76
3 - Earl Strickland - 74
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 74
5 - Nick Varner - 73
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
Get_A_Grip said:
SVB = 5 points.
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FYI, I added your name and score to the first post.

After 6 second-round votes, here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 166
2 - Shane Van Boening - 81
3 - Earl Strickland - 74
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 74
5 - Nick Varner - 73
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
skogstokig said:
earl 5 points
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FYI, I added your name and score to the first post.

After 7 second-round votes, here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 166
2 - Shane Van Boening - 81
3 - Earl Strickland - 79
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 74
5 - Nick Varner - 73
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 45
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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