Consensus "Greatest of All Time" (GOAT) List

dr_dave said:
Discussions about the "Greatest of All Time" (GOAT) Pool Players seems to be a popular topic on AZB and Facebook, so I thought it would be fun and interesting to semi-scientifically identify a consensus opinion with input from as many AZB users as possible. Please vote per the instructions below. This will be a meaningful exercise only if many people participate. Please also post comments to help make cases for your favorite players. This might also help influence how other people vote.

Your vote consists of 5 points that you can use however you wish. Here are some examples of how you can vote:

Reyes 5 (indicating Efren should keep the top spot on the list)

Strickland 3, Rempe 2 (indicating Earl and Jim should both be higher on the list)

Hall 1, Varner 1, Sigel 1, Archer 1, Orcollo 1 (indicating all of these players should be just a little higher on the list)

You only get to vote once in each of two rounds of voting. I will keep a list of the voters to prevent multiple votes. All votes must be public as posts in this thread, and you are not allowed to change your vote. The first round of voting (see below), which trimmed the list down from 25 to 11, ended on 6/15/2019, and the current (second) round voting will end on 6/30/2019.

Here are the current results for the second round of voting:

Top 10 GOAT (in the modern era):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 237
2 - Earl Strickland - 124
3 - Shane Van Boening - 112
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 102
5 - Nick Varner - 101
6 - Mike Sigel - 94
7 - Buddy Hall - 51
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 50
10 - Wu Chia-ching - 50
11 - Dennis Ocollo - 47



I agree with this all except for Ocollo, think he hovers around 8-9, but that is my 2 cents..

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Awizzzy said:
dr_dave said:
Discussions about the "Greatest of All Time" (GOAT) Pool Players seems to be a popular topic on AZB and Facebook, so I thought it would be fun and interesting to semi-scientifically identify a consensus opinion with input from as many AZB users as possible. Please vote per the instructions below. This will be a meaningful exercise only if many people participate. Please also post comments to help make cases for your favorite players. This might also help influence how other people vote.

Your vote consists of 5 points that you can use however you wish. Here are some examples of how you can vote:

Reyes 5 (indicating Efren should keep the top spot on the list)

Strickland 3, Rempe 2 (indicating Earl and Jim should both be higher on the list)

Hall 1, Varner 1, Sigel 1, Archer 1, Orcollo 1 (indicating all of these players should be just a little higher on the list)

You only get to vote once in each of two rounds of voting. I will keep a list of the voters to prevent multiple votes. All votes must be public as posts in this thread, and you are not allowed to change your vote. The first round of voting (see below), which trimmed the list down from 25 to 11, ended on 6/15/2019, and the current (second) round voting will end on 6/30/2019.

Here are the current results for the second round of voting:

Top 10 GOAT (in the modern era):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 237
2 - Earl Strickland - 124
3 - Shane Van Boening - 112
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 102
5 - Nick Varner - 101
6 - Mike Sigel - 94
7 - Buddy Hall - 51
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 50
10 - Wu Chia-ching - 50
11 - Dennis Orcollo - 47


The 11th spot will be dropped at the end of voting, per post 208.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 61): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, deanoc, dontscratch, dr_dave, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.
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I agree with this all except for Ocollo, think he hovers around 8-9, but that is my 2 cents..

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Please make your opinion official by placing a vote, maybe some points for Ocollo?

Thanks,
Dave
 
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I vote Alex Pagulayan. - 5

Because...
Plays each and every game so well including snooker.
And, I still don't know how good he is.
 
2nd Round

2nd Round:

Efren Reyes - 1
Earl Strickland - 1
Nick Varner - 1
Mike Sigel - 1
Alex Pagulayan - 1
 
eddieindetroit said:
I vote Alex Pagulayan. - 5

Because...
Plays each and every game so well including snooker.
And, I still don't know how good he is.
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Thank you for participating.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 237
2 - Earl Strickland - 124
3 - Shane Van Boening - 112
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 107
5 - Nick Varner - 101
6 - Mike Sigel - 94
7 - Buddy Hall - 51
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 50
10 - Wu Chia-ching - 50
11 - Dennis Orcollo - 47

NOTE - Anybody can vote in this round, even if you didn't vote in the first round.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 62): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, deanoc, dontscratch, dr_dave, eddieindetroit, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

PS: Remember, we are not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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monsterdog said:
2nd Round:

Efren Reyes - 1
Earl Strickland - 1
Nick Varner - 1
Mike Sigel - 1
Alex Pagulayan - 1
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Thank you for participating.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 238
2 - Earl Strickland - 125
3 - Shane Van Boening - 112
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 108
5 - Nick Varner - 102
6 - Mike Sigel - 95
7 - Buddy Hall - 51
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 50
10 - Wu Chia-ching - 50
11 - Dennis Orcollo - 47

NOTE - Anybody can vote in this round, even if you didn't vote in the first round.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 63): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, deanoc, dontscratch, dr_dave, eddieindetroit, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, monsterdog, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

PS: Remember, we are not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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Dimeball said:
2nd Rd
Efren 2
SVB 2
Earl 1
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Thank you for participating.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 240
2 - Earl Strickland - 126
3 - Shane Van Boening - 114
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 108
5 - Nick Varner - 102
6 - Mike Sigel - 95
7 - Buddy Hall - 51
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 50
10 - Wu Chia-ching - 50
11 - Dennis Orcollo - 47

NOTE - Anybody can vote in this round, even if you didn't vote in the first round.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 64): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, deanoc, Dimeball, dontscratch, dr_dave, eddieindetroit, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, monsterdog, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

PS: Remember, we are not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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Cameron Smith said:
Dennis Orcullo - 4
Johnny Archer - 1
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You just moved Dennis from 11 to 10 above Wu and created a 4-way tie for 7-10! Now any vote (1 or 2 points) for any of the bottom 5 will move them up to the 7th spot!

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 240
2 - Earl Strickland - 126
3 - Shane Van Boening - 114
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 108
5 - Nick Varner - 102
6 - Mike Sigel - 95
7 - Buddy Hall - 51
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 51
10 - Dennis Orcollo - 51
11 - Wu Chia-ching - 50

NOTE - Anybody can vote in this round, even if you didn't vote in the first round.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 65): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, Cameron Smith, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, deanoc, Dimeball, dontscratch, dr_dave, eddieindetroit, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, monsterdog, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

PS: Remember, we are not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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1 - Efren Reyes - 240
2 - Earl Strickland - 126
3 - Shane Van Boening - 114
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 108
5 - Nick Varner - 102
6 - Mike Sigel - 95
7 - Buddy Hall - 51
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 51
10 - Dennis Ocollo - 51
11 - Wu Chia-ching - 50

Hall - 5
 
Taxi said:
Hall - 5
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You just put Buddy solidly into 7th place by himself. Now we need some votes to separate 8-10.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 240
2 - Earl Strickland - 126
3 - Shane Van Boening - 114
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 108
5 - Nick Varner - 102
6 - Mike Sigel - 95
7 - Buddy Hall - 56
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 51
10 - Dennis Orcollo - 51
11 - Wu Chia-ching - 50

NOTE - Anybody can vote in this round, even if you didn't vote in the first round.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 66): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, Cameron Smith, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, deanoc, Dimeball, dontscratch, dr_dave, eddieindetroit, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, monsterdog, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Taxi, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

PS: Remember, we are not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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phj_tc said:
My vote is for Alex Pagulayan 5...
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You now got Alex within 1 point of Shane. The SVB lovers out there are not going to like that. ;)

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 240
2 - Earl Strickland - 126
3 - Shane Van Boening - 114
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 113
5 - Nick Varner - 102
6 - Mike Sigel - 95
7 - Buddy Hall - 56
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 51
10 - Dennis Orcollo - 51
11 - Wu Chia-ching - 50

NOTE - Anybody can vote in this round, even if you didn't vote in the first round.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 67): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, Cameron Smith, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, deanoc, Dimeball, dontscratch, dr_dave, eddieindetroit, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, monsterdog, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, phj_tc, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Taxi, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

PS: Remember, we are not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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CreeDo said:
Round 2 vote: Still Efren, all 5 points~
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Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 245
2 - Earl Strickland - 126
3 - Shane Van Boening - 114
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 113
5 - Nick Varner - 102
6 - Mike Sigel - 95
7 - Buddy Hall - 56
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 51
10 - Dennis Orcollo - 51
11 - Wu Chia-ching - 50

NOTE - Anybody can vote in this round, even if you didn't vote in the first round.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 68): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, Cameron Smith, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, CreeDo, deanoc, Dimeball, dontscratch, dr_dave, eddieindetroit, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, monsterdog, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, phj_tc, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Taxi, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

PS: Remember, we are not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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Let's get some votes for Shane or Alex to better differentiate them.

Ditto for 8-11, which are all within 1 point.


dr_dave said:
Thank you for participating.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 245
2 - Earl Strickland - 126
3 - Shane Van Boening - 114
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 113
5 - Nick Varner - 102
6 - Mike Sigel - 95
7 - Buddy Hall - 56
8 - Francisco Bustamante - 51
9 - Johnny Archer - 51
10 - Dennis Orcollo - 51
11 - Wu Chia-ching - 50

NOTE - Anybody can vote in this round, even if you didn't vote in the first round.

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 68): 9 Ball Fan, 9andout, atlas333, beetle, Bic D, big_worm, Bob Jewett, bobprobst, Cameron Smith, CGM, charlietango7, Chili Palmer, Cornerman, CreeDo, deanoc, Dimeball, dontscratch, dr_dave, eddieindetroit, evergruven, flyvirginiaguy, follownoone, Get_A_Grip, gordml, Grilled Cheese, harleydon1950, highkarate, icucybe, jay helfert, JazzyJeff87, K2Kraze, kkdanamatt, Luxury, maha, Maniac, Marc, mark187, mattb, MattPoland, MississaugaFats, monsterdog, noMoreSchon, oldschool1478, parvus1202, Pete, phj_tc, Poolmanis, pt109, RailBanger, ricardo, Rimfirejunkie, Runnintable, Saint1500, SamShaddey, Scratch85, Sealegs50, sjharr, sjm, skogstokig, Snooker Theory, Sunchaser, Taxi, Tennesseejoe, Tin Man, Tooler, TwinkleToes, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

PS: Remember, we are not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
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