I’ll take votes up until midnight tomorrow. ...
Midnight where?
(and note that the "time clock" for these posts is considerably slow -- about 14 min. right now)
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I’ll take votes up until midnight tomorrow. ...
Voting deadline:Midnight where?
Voting deadline:
12 midnight, MDT
Sunday, June 30
I’m glad to see you are taking this seriously. I wonder how many other last-minute strategic votes we will get. I’m only expecting yours, but it would be nice to see many more.
Regards,
Dave
Thank you for participating.Shane 1
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Archer 1
Duly noted. Please don't wit until the last minute (or last 14 minutes). I doubt you will have much voting competition in the "11th hour."and note that the "time clock" for these posts is considerably slow -- about 14 min. right nowVoting deadline:
12 midnight, MDT
Sunday, June 30
I’m glad to see you are taking this seriously. I wonder how many other last-minute strategic votes we will get. I’m only expecting yours, but it would be nice to see many more.
Duly noted. Please don't wit until the last minute (or last 14 minutes). I doubt you will have much voting competition in the "11th hour."
Regards,
Dave
Thank you for participating.Efren is still not high enough.
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Not sure I'll be able to stay up to the deadline, anyway.
P.S. I've never liked that "11th hour" expression. From 11:00 to 12:00 is actually the 12th hour.
But the "11th hour" doesn't mean midnight, it means "at the last moment," whenever that is.
If the phrase originates with Matthew 20:1–16, for example, since the workday typically began at 6 am, the 11th hour would be between 4 pm and 5 pm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Workers_in_the_Vineyard
But the "11th hour" doesn't mean midnight, it means "at the last moment," whenever that is.
If the phrase originates with Matthew 20:1–16, for example, since the workday typically began at 6 am, the 11th hour would be between 4 pm and 5 pm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Workers_in_the_Vineyard
I take the 11th hour literally....which would start at one second after 10:AM.
...this was about casual laborers trying to get a day’s work in.
The 12th hour in this scenario is noon.
Not the first time misunderstandings has become lingua Franca....
...it’s been happening ever since Babel
As you say, if starting from 6 am, the 11th hour is between 4 pm and 5 pm and the 12th hour is between 5 pm and 6 pm.
Similarly, starting at midnight, and again at noon on the 12-hour clock, the first hour is between 12:00 and 1:00, ... the 11th hour is between 10:00 and 11:00, and the 12th hour is between 11:00 and 12:00.
So "at the last moment," i.e., during the last hour, should be during the 12th hour.
But who's counting.
Where I am, but not in Colorado, the 12th hour ends in one minute.
Sure, but as I just posted above, even if we take "the 11th hour" literally (which is not its intended meaning), which hour is the 11th hour depends on your starting point, and nothing in the meaning of the phrase, even taken literally, determines a specific starting point.
Sure, I agree, and fiddle-faddle, also.:grin: The term is not rarely used to refer to the hour before midnight.
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