Corey and rack your own

u12armresl

u12armresl

One Pocket back cutter
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I have been reading over the posts about Corey and playing anyone rack your own.

Why does he want to play rack your own?

Is there a person that can be a neutral racker as opposed to rack your own?

What if the other player objects to the rack, do you keep re-racking until that person accepts the rack?
 
If shooting a controlled break shot, balls leave the rack in a fairly predictable pattern.

If you know what your doing (and from what I hear, Deuel knows everything you could want to know about breaking and racking) you can set the rack in such a way to give you very predictable and easy groupings to run out.

He's taking all the possible variables out he can, to give him the easiest run outs possible. He wouldn't take a neutral racker, with the exception of somebody he knows very well, who would be able to deliver him the rack he wants.
 
Corey's soft break is very deadly. If he racks them right, he can make the 1 in the side and control the 2, putting the 2 as the bottom ball in the rack and having it bank up table toward the corner pocket.
 
it doesnt matter who freaking racks them

u12armresl said:
I have been reading over the posts about Corey and playing anyone rack your own.

Why does he want to play rack your own?

Is there a person that can be a neutral racker as opposed to rack your own?

What if the other player objects to the rack, do you keep re-racking until that person accepts the rack?
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If Jesse Bowman wants to play Corey Duehl even on a pool table....ANY pool table....I don't care if my dog racks the balls....I will bet whatever Jesse's side wants to bet. It is as simple as that. Its as easy as 1...2...3....if Jesse wants to play Corey, all he has to do is come up with the money, and he can get played. How about this, who is the most respected person on this forum...Grady??? Keith M??? Lets let one of them rack. Now...whats your excuse????
 
Billy, you really need to get a life. Not everyone who posts a question is out to get you. So you want to get a game together great for you.

I was curious after reading the posts about rack your own and there are others who are also curious.

We all don't need to hear how much money you have or how you will bet this or that, you're the man, you were in the top 10 on Forbes money list.
 
Corey is very good at reading racks. Not only that but 5 years ago I watched him playing against the ghost racking his own. I spoke with him about reading racks and he gave me a lengthy map out of where each ball track goes. (I was amazed.) He pointed out what gaps where will do what to the rack. He also was very meticulous with each rack taking his time to make sure it was right. It was all more information then I could possibly retain.

Corey didn't know me at all. I was a complete stranger and yet he was very friendly and willing to share pool information with me. I have been a fan of his ever since and yes I will cheer him on if given the chance.

That was the one and only time I have met Corey. Just from that one chance meeting I would say that Corey could play his top game without hinderance if he racked his own. No slug racks weather unintentional or not.
No crying from either side about those racks to deal with.
 
i apologize

billychips said:
If Jesse Bowman wants to play Corey Duehl even on a pool table....ANY pool table....I don't care if my dog racks the balls....I will bet whatever Jesse's side wants to bet. It is as simple as that. Its as easy as 1...2...3....if Jesse wants to play Corey, all he has to do is come up with the money, and he can get played. How about this, who is the most respected person on this forum...Grady??? Keith M??? Lets let one of them rack. Now...whats your excuse????
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You are correct and I apologize. I didnt fully read your post and I was a little out of line. I just get tired of hearing people say that he plays good because he knows ho rack the balls. As for being in the Forbes top 10...damn, if I was, I probably would play him even myself!
 
Just from a fan standpoint, I would love to see it come off.

And unless your riding the wally-world gravy train, you ain't crackin' the Forbes top 10.:cool:
 
NP Billy.

I agree that there is too much talk and you seem to be very serious about a game. I guess that is why the talk stopped because someone was finally serious.
 
thoffen said:
Corey's soft break is very deadly. If he racks them right, he can make the 1 in the side and control the 2, putting the 2 as the bottom ball in the rack and having it bank up table toward the corner pocket.
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A question of two. Given that the rules say the rack should be random (except the 1 & 9 of course), would it be against the rules to rack the same every time ? What about just placing the 2 in a non-random position ? It seems like a very difficult to enforce rule if one interprets always putting the 2 ball on the bottom of the rack as non-random. What would be the penalty if this was acknowledged as an infraction ? Or does random mean that the other balls don't matter, who cares, put them where you want ? Just an inquiring mind, I'm not accusing anyone of anything.

Dave
 
DaveK said:
A question of two. Given that the rules say the rack should be random (except the 1 & 9 of course), would it be against the rules to rack the same every time ? What about just placing the 2 in a non-random position ? It seems like a very difficult to enforce rule if one interprets always putting the 2 ball on the bottom of the rack as non-random. What would be the penalty if this was acknowledged as an infraction ? Or does random mean that the other balls don't matter, who cares, put them where you want ? Just an inquiring mind, I'm not accusing anyone of anything.

Dave
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I think at the US Open they were racking the 2 ball at the back of the rack. I think where the rules state the balls are racked in a random order it means that there is no set order. The rules do not specifically state that you can not rack the balls the same every time so I have to assume that you can. I would assume that if you were not allowed the rules would state "and by random I mean the balls shall not appear in the same order as the previous rack."

This is rarely a problem however because it is not too often that you see people racking their own rack. At least I don't see it often.
 
I Played Against Corey Last Night

At the Charity event last night I had the pleasure of meeting and playing against Corey.....He racked two racks for his Amateur teammates and both guys dropped the 9 in the same corner pocket off of the break ..... luck of the break??? I think not ... He knows how to set a rack....

McCue Banger McCue
 
u12armresl said:
I have been reading over the posts about Corey and playing anyone rack your own.

Why does he want to play rack your own?

Is there a person that can be a neutral racker as opposed to rack your own?

What if the other player objects to the rack, do you keep re-racking until that person accepts the rack?
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Corey is almost autistic when it comes to pool. He has the ability to break and have the same layout of balls everytime. If you switch the order of the none required balls (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) he will soft break and know what area each ball will end up. They have changed the rules breaking twice because corey figured out how to pre-determine the layouts. He would be the greatest nineball player ever hands down if the soft break and perfect rack on the spot was used.

I seen your handle I have a friend who is an accomplished arm wrestler. I took him on a road trip before he became known. what a crew we had, Myself playing cards, Jack Hynes playing pool, Travis Bagent arm wrestling with fake ID to get into bars, and Ryan Stonebrook golfing, pitching quarters, playing chess, and shooting free-throws. It was a short road trip due to the fact it is hard to generate enough action to keep for guys flush.
 
Travis would be a bad choice for that in my book because he is too loud (by his own admission) I have always made money with the small quiet guy, there is no shortage of people willing to bet that their arm doesn't go the other way.
 
DaveK said:
A question of two. Given that the rules say the rack should be random (except the 1 & 9 of course), would it be against the rules to rack the same every time ? What about just placing the 2 in a non-random position ? It seems like a very difficult to enforce rule if one interprets always putting the 2 ball on the bottom of the rack as non-random. What would be the penalty if this was acknowledged as an infraction ? Or does random mean that the other balls don't matter, who cares, put them where you want ? Just an inquiring mind, I'm not accusing anyone of anything.

Dave
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UPA rules say the two goes on the back spot.
 
u12armresl said:
Travis would be a bad choice for that in my book because he is too loud (by his own admission) I have always made money with the small quiet guy, there is no shortage of people willing to bet that their arm doesn't go the other way.
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Very true, but Travis made more $50 and $100 scores in bars then Jack did on the bar boxes. I couldn't believe how good he was/is and he can bring it with either arm. Real quick non-pool story about our road trip. We were in a biker bar in the Chicago area trying to hustle up some action. The bar was a hangout for the Outlaw? motor cycle club. Jack was playing $20 a game 8 ball on the box and just doing enough to win. He was up about 200-300, meanwhile Travis was arm wrestling right handed and winning about $500 we begin to think we may have a problem leaving with the chedder mainly because both Jack and Travis can be a bit over the top. Travis came up to me at the bar and said they had a guy that would wrestle, but he is left handed!!!!! Well Travis is a world champion left handed. About an hour later a couple Outlaws?? come in and "Dale the Whale" is the guy he is about 6'9 400lbs and a member of the 1% of the Outlaws which means he is the a guy who should not be taken lightly. I tell them that the four of us are on the road and the kid can wrestle very well. Everyone in the bar wanted "Dale the Whale's" action I think we got about 3 dimes worth of action down. We set-up towels as braces and each had a referee best 2 of 3. Travis won the first two. The let us out with the money and told the kid to put on some weight and he might be a champion someday. He did and he is.


Huckster
 
Back in the day, Corey was spend hours upon hours doing nothing but breaking. Once he broke he would write down where each ball was in the rack and where it ended up depending on which break he was using. He did this for hours on end. Since we have a 24 hours pool hall here it was no problem for him to do this with no one bothering him.

When the US Open changed the way they racked the 9ball on the spot, they notified Corey 24 hours in advance. That night he spend several hours perfecting his soft break and mastered the new rack.

Rumor has it....
For those that may not know this, Corey has some sick natural talent. Before he started to play pool, if Corey would have stuck to his other abilities he could have been an Olympic Gymnast. Can you imagine?
 
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