Corey Deuel's X Breaker

stolz2 said:
I believe its at least 2 balls must pass the center of the table. Please correct me if im wrong. Might be 3 balls.

Mack

3 balls must pass the center of the table. A ball that is pocketed counts as one of the 3 balls.

I also agree with Marissa that the rule is a joke. As long as the balls spread and is not intended to be an intentional safety break to slow play to a screatching halt (which would be bad), it should be legal. Please reward those that take the time to come up with something new to give them an edge against the great players they compete with. Hell, I have hammered a break many times and didn't get 3 balls over the center - nice rack, by the way!

Do the powers to be really think so little of the pool playing/watching public that they believe they know what's best for the game and what "We" think is interesting viewing? Who do they think they are, the NCAA? :D :D

Dave
 
Ingenuity ...

If Cory is smart enough to figure it out, why should he be
restricted (3 balls past side pocket) in his breaking. Kind
of like can't use a jump stick and have to jump with regular
stick type business. I wish Pool, in general, would not keep
trying to get everyone towards the middle of the pack, and
just let those that have the talent and smarts go out front.
(Imagine if stupid rules were applied to Golf. Tiger you win
too much, so you can not use club # ? or club # ? anymore
in Majors).

What will Cory do if his game goes downhill by switching
to woodpecker cues? I thought he was sponsored by 5280?
or did that go by the wayside?
 
Snapshot9 said:
If Cory is smart enough to figure it out, why should he be
restricted (3 balls past side pocket) in his breaking. Kind
of like can't use a jump stick and have to jump with regular
stick type business. I wish Pool, in general, would not keep
trying to get everyone towards the middle of the pack, and
just let those that have the talent and smarts go out front.
(Imagine if stupid rules were applied to Golf. Tiger you win
too much, so you can not use club # ? or club # ? anymore
in Majors).

What, you want to go back to straight rail billiards ? I know I'd love to watch someone play a few thousand rail nurses some week. :rolleyes:

Dave
 
Snapshot9 said:
I thought he was sponsored by 5280?
or did that go by the wayside?


That's old news...have you been holding hands with Dorothy and skipping down that yellow brick road too long again? (I guess strange things happen in Kansas)
 
drivermaker said:
That's old news...have you been holding hands with Dorothy and skipping down that yellow brick road too long again? (I guess strange things happen in Kansas)
How can that be?
Dorothy is dead.
Necrophilia? :D
 
macguy said:
They didn't create rules because of him, there have been break requirments around before he was even playing pool.

There have been rules to the break, yes. But there have also been times that they have tried to add rules or restrictions slow someone down if other players didnt like what was going on. IIRC the break box tried years ago because the guys that didnt have the big breaks didnt like watching the young guns makeing so many balls on the break. If there was some other reason they brought in the break box someone please correct me.

On a side note, I find it interesting that the breakbox is going to be used on the IPT.

Woody
 
I don't think Corey's game will suffer by switching from carbon-copy taiwan cues to hand-made beauties. I saw his Woodpecker cues the day they first arrived, they were great.

As for the soft-break rule, its clearly retarded. If its not a safety break, its legal.
 
Shorty said:
Mind if I ask a question? What was the full length jump cue that Corey was using here a few years back? What brand? What weight? I am curious about it big time!

Shorty

Hey Shorty, It was a 17oz woodpecker jump/break cue.
 
JoeyA said:
OK, here goes:

Corey, I have a few questions for you about your favorite specifications on your playing cue:
1. Tip type and diameter size?
2. Curved tip (dime or nickel) or flat?
2. Precisely what type of taper do you like on your playing cue?

Thanks Al!

JoeyA

Hey JoeyA,

1. 12 3/4 sniper made by tiger.
2. Nickel
3. He plays with a standard predator shaft so whatever taper that is.
 
Yeah ...

drivermaker said:
That's old news...have you been holding hands with Dorothy and skipping down that yellow brick road too long again? (I guess strange things happen in Kansas)

The Pony Express is a little slow nowdays, but they are making
a comeback, with the gas prices being what they are .... lol
 
Jazz said:
This should be under For Sale forum for better visibility ... and photos and specs would help. Also how you'd take payment, PayPal or ???


Check or money order made out to Corey Deuel or if your going to the Joss tour event this weekend you can pay cash.
 
macguy said:
I was under the impression they gave him the cue. Shouldn't he just give it back if he doesn't plan on using it?

Your right they gave it to him, which means it's his. The cue is very nice and breaks well, but I feel the people that gave him the cue got way more than there moneys worth by having Corey play with it in a tournament that was viewed live by millions of people. This tournament will be viewed for years to come and everyone watching will believe Corey is sponsored and plays with the X breaker, all for a cue worth a few hundred. Who do you think got the better deal?
 
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Al-fahl Amir said:
Your right they gave it to him, which means it's his. The cue is very nice and breaks well, but I feel the people that gave him the cue got way more than there moneys worth by having Corey play with it in a tournament that was viewed live by millions of people. This tournament will be viewed for years to come and everyone watching will believe Corey is sponsored and plays with the X breaker, all for a cue worth a few hundred. Who do you think got the better deal?

I hope he is giving the money to a charity or something, how small time can one get trying to sell a cue they were given. Not to mention playing with it when he didn't even believe in the cue, especially if he is already sponsored by another cue company. And if as you say they will be indirectly using him as a advertisement for the cue in the future just because they put the cue in his hands and got a picture of it, that would be a fraud. Isn't he in fact featured in a photo on their web site with the cue along with a lot of other players trying to give the impression they indorse the cue? Reminds me of the people who run up to celebrity to get a picture taken with them and hang it on their office walls like they are old friends. What you are telling us pretty much explains the pros actual involvement with the cue, none of them actually indorse it and x-breaker has some questionable content on their web site in terms of honesty. The pictures were even posted here with I suspect the same intent. I wonder if these players know they are being prostituted by x-breaker? Sounds like Corey sold out his integrity for a free cue, hard to believe? Tell him to stop embarrassing himself and just return the cue he should probably never have accepted in the first place, much less as payment for a fake indorsement. If I was his sponsor I would fire his ass. Just my opinion
 
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macguy said:
I hope he is giving the money to a charity or something, how small time can one get trying to sell a cue they were given. Not to mention playing with it when he didn't even believe in the cue, especially if he is already sponsored by another cue company. And if as you say they will be indirectly using him as a advertisement for the cue in the future just because they put the cue in his hands and got a picture of it, that would be a fraud. Isn't he in fact featured in a photo on their web site with the cue along with a lot of other players trying to give the impression they indorse the cue? Reminds me of the people who run up to celebrity to get a picture taken with them and hang it on their office walls like they are old friends. What you are telling us pretty much explains the pros actual involvement with the cue, none of them actually indorse it and x-breaker has some questionable content on their web site in terms of honesty. The pictures were even posted here with I suspect the same intent. I wonder if these players know they are being prostituted by x-breaker? Sounds like Corey sold out his integrity for a free cue, hard to believe? Tell him to stop embarrassing himself and just return the cue he should probably never have accepted in the first place, much less as payment for a fake indorsement. If I was his sponsor I would fire his ass. Just my opinion

He must have liked the cue otherwise he would never have used it in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP just because it was free. He probably thought he was in the clear as Woodpecker doesnt make jump/break cues.

As far as the rest of your post, it is full of highly questionable conclusions built on half-assed assumptions. If you want to talk about honesty, begin closer to home.
 
Nostroke said:
He must have liked the cue otherwise he would never have used it in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP just because it was free. He probably thought he was in the clear as Woodpecker doesnt make jump/break cues.

As far as the rest of your post, it is full of highly questionable conclusions built on half-assed assumptions. If you want to talk about honesty, begin closer to home.

They have created an environment of half-assed assumptions, it seems to be the basis of their advertising campaign. Corey needs to tell them he doesn't want his image or name used to sell their cues now or in the future unless he gets paid. The post I was responding to gives the impression they will be prostituting Corey from now on for little more then payment with a free cue. He would have to be an idiot if he lets that continue and his sponsors even bigger idiots if they let it continue.
 
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Nostroke said:
He must have liked the cue otherwise he would never have used it in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP just because it was free. He probably thought he was in the clear as Woodpecker doesnt make jump/break cues.

As far as the rest of your post, it is full of highly questionable conclusions built on half-assed assumptions. If you want to talk about honesty, begin closer to home.

Tap Tap tap

I agree with you 100%.There's no way he's going to break with a cue in the World Championships if he didn't like it.A pro of his caliber can tell pretty quick (in a matter of a 1/2 dozen breaks) whether a cue is any good or not.

My thinking is that Woodpecker (his sponsor) told him not to use it,however,my thinking like others is only an assumption. RJ
 
macguy said:
They have created an environment of half-assed assumptions, it seems to be the basis of their advertising campaign. Corey needs to tell them he doesn't want his image or name used to sell their cues now or in the future unless he gets paid. The post I was responding to gives the impression they will be prostituting Corey from now on for little more then payment with a free cue. He would have to be an idiot if he lets that continue and his sponsors even bigger idiots if they let it continue.

What the post you replied to said was that Corey used the cue in the WPC and his play would be viewed for years to come on TV and tapes and that would constitute a form of advertising for the cue. This is product placement, not prostituting.
 
Thanks for the info Al.
JoeyA


Al-fahl Amir said:
Hey JoeyA,

1. 12 3/4 sniper made by tiger.
2. Nickel
3. He plays with a standard predator shaft so whatever taper that is.
 
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