coring maple
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I agree, while coring by itself doesn't make a better cue. It does allow for stability, weight control and consistency. IMHO I do feel the type of core used will have an effect on the stiffness or the resonance of the cue etc. While, yes in a blind test most wouldn't be able to tell the core used it does have its effects. A well constructed cue is just that cored or not, coreing by itself doesn't make the cue.
If you can't tell the difference between a rosewood dowel and maple dowel cored forearm, I guess there is no need to handpick maple dowels then.
Just use low grade ones. After all there are no differences.
And if one piece hit better, forearms with points are inferior. I guess.
Joey~Thinks bushka had great maples~
Just use low grade ones. After all there are no differences.
And if one piece hit better, forearms with points are inferior. I guess.
Joey~Thinks bushka had great maples~
You are thinking too short sighted Joey. Even though you can't tell the difference in one aspect of the build, the same attention to detail in every aspect of the build yields something that can be perceived.
I was being facetious.
I was taught by Kerry Zeiler how to tone woods.
Heck, if a phenolic collar hits different that a cheap plastic collar ( the length of less than an inch with 5/8 ) ID, how much more would 3/4 12-15" tight maple compared to a soft one ?
Stiff and very quiet .
I may have phrased my earlier response incorrectly. I meant to say you couldn't feel a vibration difference in the core materials. You should be able to hear a difference.
George probably had great maple, but he sure didn't use much if any epoxy in his cues. Same with Gus.
Points do affect the resonance of a cue, but then again, I put mine in with an
special PVA type glue.
As to quality of wood in the core. You choose it for stability, strength, and weight. It will change the sound of the cue, but then again, shaft taper, ferrule type, and most importantly tip selection will tone it more.
Your left or right hand will not feel a difference, everything else the same.
Try it again with earphones and some loud music playing, so you can't hear the hit. You won't feel a difference.
I'd love to see Joey tapping tips on the floor.
George probably had great maple, but he sure didn't use much if any epoxy in his cues. Same with Gus.
Points do affect the resonance of a cue, but then again, I put mine in with an
special PVA type glue.
As to quality of wood in the core. You choose it for stability, strength, and weight. It will change the sound of the cue, but then again, shaft taper, ferrule type, and most importantly tip selection will tone it more.
Your left or right hand will not feel a difference, everything else the same.
Try it again with earphones and some loud music playing, so you can't hear the hit. You won't feel a difference.
I'd love to see Joey tapping tips on the floor.
Thanks Steve.
That's what the lid cover of the lathe is for.
Besides getting your fingers get bounced from under.
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Curly maple needs to be cored?
Well maybe sometimes that is true, but not every time. My favorite playing shaft, which I made out of an outrageous curly maple board has been in use for maybe 18 months, and I even occasionally break with it. I also fitted it with a laminated wood ferrule. I get great feedback with it. And many ooohs and aaahs from those that see it. I also made one from that same board for a pro I know, who loves it as well. He uses it as his main shaft! He says it really gives him great feel. So I guess : never say never.
I have had birds-eye maple shatter when it is roughed up, even when machined too quick and am leaning towards coring my BE to avoid any issues. I especially like flat lam cores. Though I have used purpleheart too and like the play.
Not looking to start an argument about this, but hey: what better way to warm up a cold Ohio day !
Well maybe sometimes that is true, but not every time. My favorite playing shaft, which I made out of an outrageous curly maple board has been in use for maybe 18 months, and I even occasionally break with it. I also fitted it with a laminated wood ferrule. I get great feedback with it. And many ooohs and aaahs from those that see it. I also made one from that same board for a pro I know, who loves it as well. He uses it as his main shaft! He says it really gives him great feel. So I guess : never say never.
I have had birds-eye maple shatter when it is roughed up, even when machined too quick and am leaning towards coring my BE to avoid any issues. I especially like flat lam cores. Though I have used purpleheart too and like the play.
Not looking to start an argument about this, but hey: what better way to warm up a cold Ohio day !
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Sounds like the way I work....
I couldn't make cues if it weren't for the radio headset. But I just hate it when some one comes in the shop and walks right up behind me. Mine get's
different stations in different parts of the shop. Salsa at the shaft machine.
Talk radio at the Techno. and Country western at the Jet. Gets a bit confusing when I have all three machines going at once.
This is a very interesting thread. I wonder what George or Gus used in place of epoxy? Wood glue? I am a big fan of tone-feedback-resonance-vibration..... and I don't core my cues and probably never will. I am also a big fan of mother nature and believe that it will provide me with what I need to get the job done without altering the natural characteristics of the wood.
I would most certainly core if I was using an unstable wood, but I am simply not there yet. I have a ways to go in my journey.
Gus' by far have the most desirable hit IMO.
I would most certainly core if I was using an unstable wood, but I am simply not there yet. I have a ways to go in my journey.
Gus' by far have the most desirable hit IMO.
If my radio played techno, country, or salsa, I'd break it along with whatever I was working on.
I've seen a Gus that had the pin installed with hide glue. It was a very early cue. Paradise pinned his joint screw.
This thread is starting to stray a bit but in a good way.
I prefer to listen to Jazz when I work but can only get it at night,
which is OK because many days I work a split shift.
Sunday nights are particularly enjoyable as that's when I get Jazz/Rock fusion.
IMO, Carlos is one of the greatest guitar players of all time.
I've never seen a guitarist more connected to the Spirit.
DD (Mr. Dieckman) told me one time to be mindful of the music you expose your cues to, having to do with the ambient vibrations. I can dig that.
Ain't no 'head-bangin' goin' down in my shop. No 'Rap' either.
I prefer to listen to Jazz when I work but can only get it at night,
which is OK because many days I work a split shift.
Sunday nights are particularly enjoyable as that's when I get Jazz/Rock fusion.
IMO, Carlos is one of the greatest guitar players of all time.
I've never seen a guitarist more connected to the Spirit.
DD (Mr. Dieckman) told me one time to be mindful of the music you expose your cues to, having to do with the ambient vibrations. I can dig that.
Ain't no 'head-bangin' goin' down in my shop. No 'Rap' either.
I feel sorry for my cues.....
:thumbup: Great Taste in Music Style :thumbup:
I'm lucky here as we have a full-time jazz station - HD at that!
Gary