Correct safety?

Hal

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One of my many faults is that I don't play enough defense. Sometimes a shot like this one will just jump right out at me. What's your opinions on stopping the cue ball and banking the 6ball one (two) rails?

What about rolling the cue ball forward and shooting a little harder. Driving the 6 ball up towards the 9ball for a possible combo if you get ball in hand? Too risky?
 

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i think your best bet would be to cut the 6 in the corner, but if you really want to play safe, i believe your best chance at getting a good snooker would be rolling the white so that it goes one rail kissing lightly into the back side of the 7 and making sure you dont hit too hard. the 6 should go 1 or two rails depending on how full you have to hit it. trying to stop it on the 6 will porbably end up making the 6 go beyond the blocking balls.

edit: doh, you beat me to it, jimbojim. :)
 
I wouldn't put the 6 by the 9 because of the possibilty of a combo by using a jump shot or just pure dumb luck from a kick.

You need to make a stronger safety by freezing the CB to the 7.
 
Force follow, send the 6 ball four rails down to the end rail, leaving the CB behind the 7-8. 6 should end up at the middle diamond on the end rail. Peace, John.
 
Correct-o-mondo! Don't try to do too much on these shots. Just freeze whitey in back of the 7, hitting the 6 just hard enuf to stop where the green arrow ends - about mid-way on the short rail. It makes for a real tough shot just to hit it. The key is to freeze on the 7.

Really, I agree with Masa - just cut it in and get out. But if that's not a high percentage option, then freeze that sucka up on the 7! :p


TheBook said:
I wouldn't put the 6 by the 9 because of the possibilty of a combo by using a jump shot or just pure dumb luck from a kick.

You need to make a stronger safety by freezing the CB to the 7.
 
Jimbojim said:
maybe you could hit the 6 softly make one rail and hide behind the 7

If I opt for defense, that's the safety I'm playing.
 
Hal said:
One of my many faults is that I don't play enough defense. Sometimes a shot like this one will just jump right out at me. What's your opinions on stopping the cue ball and banking the 6ball one (two) rails?

What about rolling the cue ball forward and shooting a little harder. Driving the 6 ball up towards the 9ball for a possible combo if you get ball in hand? Too risky?

I'd definitely not go for the out here, and I'd definitely not try to set up a 6-9 combination. If the 8-ball wasn't there, I'd choose your first option (stop the cue ball). But with the 8-ball there, I'd choose the option others have mentioned: just roll the cueball to come off the rail and stay behind the 7.

mike page
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Mikepage:
Yeah, that's really what I meant. I didn't mean "stop" as in stop it dead. I just meant to hold the cueball in that area behind the 7ball. Freezing against it would be ideal.
 
I just went out to my table and messed with this situation a bit. Actually for me the safety was harder. I just cut the 6 in with a hair of left and nudged the 7 towards the bottom rail and the 8 went towards the side pocket and the cue ball stayed close to where the 7 was.

Gerry
 
Shooting it very easy, hitting slightly right of head on, this is how I play it:

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Just hard enough to bank the 6 to mid table, and to catch the 7 with whitey.
 
Gerry said:
I just went out to my table and messed with this situation a bit. Actually for me the safety was harder. I just cut the 6 in with a hair of left and nudged the 7 towards the bottom rail and the 8 went towards the side pocket and the cue ball stayed close to where the 7 was.

Gerry

I'd play it with a little right english. By playing it with left, you nudge the seven but its too risky as you don't know exactly where the seven will end up. Play it wrong and you could end up with the 8 between the cue and the seven.

Right english takes you ever-so-slightly back up table past the side pocket and you can leave yourself an easy out from there.
 
pharaoh68 said:
I'd play it with a little right english. By playing it with left, you nudge the seven but its too risky as you don't know exactly where the seven will end up. Play it wrong and you could end up with the 8 between the cue and the seven.

Right english takes you ever-so-slightly back up table past the side pocket and you can leave yourself an easy out from there.


either way...its a feel thing for me. As soon as I set it up and looked at it....my mind said....left center and smooth, so that was my first try and it worked:D

I tried other ways, but my first was most comfortable at the time. NOW....am I winning or losing?, whats the score, who am I playing....all things that would come into play in the real world...

Gerry
 
you're supposed to shoot at this one. if you don't like your chances of making it, then there's a 2 way shot where you just try to leave the cb behind the 7 and 8 after you make it.

I probably wouldn't op for the safe you described because there's a good chance he could kick-safe using the 7 and 8 as blockers.


Hal said:
One of my many faults is that I don't play enough defense. Sometimes a shot like this one will just jump right out at me. What's your opinions on stopping the cue ball and banking the 6ball one (two) rails?

What about rolling the cue ball forward and shooting a little harder. Driving the 6 ball up towards the 9ball for a possible combo if you get ball in hand? Too risky?
 
Run Out

Cut the 6 and run it up the rail to the corner pocket with an easy stroke and get shape on the 7 for the same pocket, then shape on the 8 and then the 9 in the corner. GAME OVER.
 
s'portplayer said:
Cut the 6 and run it up the rail to the corner pocket with an easy stroke and get shape on the 7 for the same pocket, then shape on the 8 and then the 9 in the corner. GAME OVER.

For those who haven't seen, this layout is the subject of a poll.

What's striking to me is that a quarter of the respondents (10 of 41) think they are 90% getting out from here. When any of you see me, let's have some fun setting up four-ball layouts that are "90%" for you. Then we'll go my $20 to your $200 on each one.

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