Cortland Linen (WTB) White w/blk specs
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William....thanks for the photo of the dark green. It's really not much closer to what I want in the Cortland #12 Black Speck Irish Linen and so since the #9 Cortland is being sent to my cue-maker next week, I'm going to use that for a wrap unless I am able to find any #12 in which case I'll have my cue-maker replace the #9 Cortland and if I never find any, my cue will have the most popular wrap George Balabushka ever used on the cues he made and that's good enough for me.
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Thanks for taking the time and going the extra effort to take the photo.
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Thanks for taking the time and going the extra effort to take the photo.
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The Calendar Is My Enemy
Not that it matters to most readers but my cue-maker recently commented that photos of my cue's build in progress will be posted in the Cue Gallery soon and that he has the Cortland Linen #9 wrap graciously provided by Pechauer Custom Cues. A very big thanks to Steve @ Pechauer and especially, Joe Pechauer for releasing some of his scant inventory. For those Azers that's been curious about which cue-maker I selected to build my custom design, after some progress photos are posted in the Cue Gallery, well, I guess the cat's out of the bag. But here's where we all are on the same page.....we all get to view the photos of the cue build for the first time.......that means me too.......I've never asked my cue-maker for any photos because I have every confidence in him to do the best he can and that's all I can ever expect or hope for.
Nonetheless, in my opinion, I think my cue would ultimately turn out more attractive looking with a Cortland Linen #12 as its wrap instead of the #9 that I was fortunate to acquire. So I have a fall back plan in place that I can certainly live with (#9) but if I need to locate some Cortland Linen #12 (white with black speck) sooner than I originally anticipated. If anyone has knowledge of where I can find any #12 Cortland, please let me know. I've exhausted every avenue and I found only two people that had any. One individual has one single roll sufficient for one cue and he's saving it for a special occasion. The other party has a tiny amount and its needed for some special cues that will be made.
So being at a dead end and no where else to turn, I am just hoping that some lead or contact will develop from this thread soon. As Marc and some others commented, my cue will probably turn out fine using #9 as its wrap and so I probably would not be disappointed. I hope this doesn't sound just like some silly egotistical remark but......Cortland Linen #9 is nice to have as a bird in hand but it's still the not the girl I wanted as my 1st choice for the Prom.....if you catch my drift.
Thanks for reading my narrative and if anyone is able to offer any assistance or suggestions, I would very much appreciate your help.
Not that it matters to most readers but my cue-maker recently commented that photos of my cue's build in progress will be posted in the Cue Gallery soon and that he has the Cortland Linen #9 wrap graciously provided by Pechauer Custom Cues. A very big thanks to Steve @ Pechauer and especially, Joe Pechauer for releasing some of his scant inventory. For those Azers that's been curious about which cue-maker I selected to build my custom design, after some progress photos are posted in the Cue Gallery, well, I guess the cat's out of the bag. But here's where we all are on the same page.....we all get to view the photos of the cue build for the first time.......that means me too.......I've never asked my cue-maker for any photos because I have every confidence in him to do the best he can and that's all I can ever expect or hope for.
Nonetheless, in my opinion, I think my cue would ultimately turn out more attractive looking with a Cortland Linen #12 as its wrap instead of the #9 that I was fortunate to acquire. So I have a fall back plan in place that I can certainly live with (#9) but if I need to locate some Cortland Linen #12 (white with black speck) sooner than I originally anticipated. If anyone has knowledge of where I can find any #12 Cortland, please let me know. I've exhausted every avenue and I found only two people that had any. One individual has one single roll sufficient for one cue and he's saving it for a special occasion. The other party has a tiny amount and its needed for some special cues that will be made.
So being at a dead end and no where else to turn, I am just hoping that some lead or contact will develop from this thread soon. As Marc and some others commented, my cue will probably turn out fine using #9 as its wrap and so I probably would not be disappointed. I hope this doesn't sound just like some silly egotistical remark but......Cortland Linen #9 is nice to have as a bird in hand but it's still the not the girl I wanted as my 1st choice for the Prom.....if you catch my drift.
Thanks for reading my narrative and if anyone is able to offer any assistance or suggestions, I would very much appreciate your help.
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That's a great question by GBCues and the obvious answer is I deceived them so I could later embarrass myself on the Forum if and when I located any #12. Ya got me on that one.............honestly though, GB's question seems reasonable enough.
Nope, I am squeaky clean on that point and I was always crystal clear with Steve in my dealings for the Cortland #9 and that it would not dissuade me from continuing to try finding some #12. I always turn all the cards face up when it comes to my dealings with pool cues because being forthright and honest makes recalling what you said or did at some later date so much easier, or at least that's what life's taught me.
Anyway, thanks for your query/observation because for me not to have been totally honest with Steve would have been deceitful on my part. The other considerations not mentioned are Steve was highly doubtful I'd have any success finding some #12 and Mr. Pechauer's tiny amount of #12 was reserved for the limited edition 50th Anniversary Cues. Nonetheless, he was kind and considerate to sell me some #9 from his admittedly limited inventory. Another consideration was that the #9 wrap wasn't going to be installed on my cue in the imminent future so if I was successful in finding some #12, I'd have a roll of #9 that I'd gladly return to Pechauer Custom Cues even at 50 % restocking. You see cost is not even a consideration when it comes to my cue. I had a generous budget when I tackled this project and my cue is coming in below what I was prepared to spend and that includes fancy protectors as well.
It's not that my cue-maker is doing anything extraordinary for me in terms of a bargain. I would pay him any amount as long as it was within my cue budget and of course, we reached mutual agreement on the cue's final design. I just overestimated my cue budget by a grand as it turned out and so buying more Cortland Linen wrap than I actually need isn't even a consideration. Nonetheless, I respect that Cortland Linen of any variety is very scarce which I think was more in line with GBCues' point.......IMO. So I'd either offer the #9 back to Pechauer, assuming it wasn't yet installed on my cue and they were even interested, or else I'd have my early 70's Palmer cue re-wrapped with it so the #9 could be salvaged. However, the outlook for locating Cortland Linen #12 becomes more bleak day by day and as I earlier posted, I can live with Cortland Linen #9 wrap. I mean Cortland Linen #9 was what George Balabushka preferred to wrap his cues with and that's good enough for me. My cue will probably look handsome with #9 wrap and in hindsight, I'll come to wonder why I even bothered to try locating any #12.
Nope, I am squeaky clean on that point and I was always crystal clear with Steve in my dealings for the Cortland #9 and that it would not dissuade me from continuing to try finding some #12. I always turn all the cards face up when it comes to my dealings with pool cues because being forthright and honest makes recalling what you said or did at some later date so much easier, or at least that's what life's taught me.
Anyway, thanks for your query/observation because for me not to have been totally honest with Steve would have been deceitful on my part. The other considerations not mentioned are Steve was highly doubtful I'd have any success finding some #12 and Mr. Pechauer's tiny amount of #12 was reserved for the limited edition 50th Anniversary Cues. Nonetheless, he was kind and considerate to sell me some #9 from his admittedly limited inventory. Another consideration was that the #9 wrap wasn't going to be installed on my cue in the imminent future so if I was successful in finding some #12, I'd have a roll of #9 that I'd gladly return to Pechauer Custom Cues even at 50 % restocking. You see cost is not even a consideration when it comes to my cue. I had a generous budget when I tackled this project and my cue is coming in below what I was prepared to spend and that includes fancy protectors as well.
It's not that my cue-maker is doing anything extraordinary for me in terms of a bargain. I would pay him any amount as long as it was within my cue budget and of course, we reached mutual agreement on the cue's final design. I just overestimated my cue budget by a grand as it turned out and so buying more Cortland Linen wrap than I actually need isn't even a consideration. Nonetheless, I respect that Cortland Linen of any variety is very scarce which I think was more in line with GBCues' point.......IMO. So I'd either offer the #9 back to Pechauer, assuming it wasn't yet installed on my cue and they were even interested, or else I'd have my early 70's Palmer cue re-wrapped with it so the #9 could be salvaged. However, the outlook for locating Cortland Linen #12 becomes more bleak day by day and as I earlier posted, I can live with Cortland Linen #9 wrap. I mean Cortland Linen #9 was what George Balabushka preferred to wrap his cues with and that's good enough for me. My cue will probably look handsome with #9 wrap and in hindsight, I'll come to wonder why I even bothered to try locating any #12.
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Marc,
At this point, I'd probably have a hard time trying to conceal the darn cue and as we previously chatted, you might actually get to preview it before I do. But you know down deep I'm hoping that's not the outcome but it's a possibility since my cue-maker recently told me a photo of the cue's progress will soon get posted in the Cue Gallery. I have no idea when, or even what the stage the cue is at, but rest assured I am definitely keeping my fingers crossed because any blame will be mine and all credit belongs to my cue-maker. Gotta confess the suspense has been enjoyable.....like an early X-mas present that you get to rattle the box, tear a small opening in the wrapping and enjoy a quick, little peek of what's to come.
Matt
At this point, I'd probably have a hard time trying to conceal the darn cue and as we previously chatted, you might actually get to preview it before I do. But you know down deep I'm hoping that's not the outcome but it's a possibility since my cue-maker recently told me a photo of the cue's progress will soon get posted in the Cue Gallery. I have no idea when, or even what the stage the cue is at, but rest assured I am definitely keeping my fingers crossed because any blame will be mine and all credit belongs to my cue-maker. Gotta confess the suspense has been enjoyable.....like an early X-mas present that you get to rattle the box, tear a small opening in the wrapping and enjoy a quick, little peek of what's to come.
Matt
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Just a little push to keep this thread alive for the time being.
Just in case anyone wants to see what Cortland #12 looks like, there's a seller on ebay named "masterzs".
He's has a set of five of Pechauer's 50th Anniversary Cues listed for sale. The second cue from the left has Cortland Linen#12 wrap. The first cue in the photo has Cortland Linen #9.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PECHAUER-50...-RARE-LIFETIME-DEAL-ALL-3-OF-50-/141104597289
Anyway, that's the wrap I'm still trying to find and the calendar is getting shorter. As I've previously posted, my cue-maker has the Cortland Linen #9 Joe Pecahuer kindly sold me....again thanks to Steve @ Pechauer Custom. But the #12 black spec Cortland Linen would look so much better on my custom cue that I went to painstaking detail to personally design and sketch out for my cue-maker and #12 Cortland would really look absolutely so much better than the #9 green spec I already have.
The #12 Black spec (2nd cue from left in ebay auction photo) is my golden fleece right now. I've imagine that wrap framed by my cue's ivory & ebony stitch Bushka collars and below the wrap is a ebony butt & ivory butt cap, The butt sleeve has double boxed red veneers with ivory inlays, Frankly, a black spec Cortland Linen wrap just compliments my cue's design so much better than the green spec Cortland does. So I still search for the #12 for this very special custom cue being made. I feel so fortunate to have selected a cue-maker that's focused so much more on pleasing me than just making a couple of grand building another cue.
Anyway, if any one might know of any location, source, secret stash of Cortland Linen #12, please contact me (bavafongoul@yahoo.com) or just send me a PM. Again, I will pay top dollar for a spool of #12 sufficient to wrap my new custom cue being made.
He's has a set of five of Pechauer's 50th Anniversary Cues listed for sale. The second cue from the left has Cortland Linen#12 wrap. The first cue in the photo has Cortland Linen #9.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PECHAUER-50...-RARE-LIFETIME-DEAL-ALL-3-OF-50-/141104597289
Anyway, that's the wrap I'm still trying to find and the calendar is getting shorter. As I've previously posted, my cue-maker has the Cortland Linen #9 Joe Pecahuer kindly sold me....again thanks to Steve @ Pechauer Custom. But the #12 black spec Cortland Linen would look so much better on my custom cue that I went to painstaking detail to personally design and sketch out for my cue-maker and #12 Cortland would really look absolutely so much better than the #9 green spec I already have.
The #12 Black spec (2nd cue from left in ebay auction photo) is my golden fleece right now. I've imagine that wrap framed by my cue's ivory & ebony stitch Bushka collars and below the wrap is a ebony butt & ivory butt cap, The butt sleeve has double boxed red veneers with ivory inlays, Frankly, a black spec Cortland Linen wrap just compliments my cue's design so much better than the green spec Cortland does. So I still search for the #12 for this very special custom cue being made. I feel so fortunate to have selected a cue-maker that's focused so much more on pleasing me than just making a couple of grand building another cue.
Anyway, if any one might know of any location, source, secret stash of Cortland Linen #12, please contact me (bavafongoul@yahoo.com) or just send me a PM. Again, I will pay top dollar for a spool of #12 sufficient to wrap my new custom cue being made.
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Blue Mountain black spec looks just like that and really feels stellar, too. Surely a maker somewhere has some of it left. I've been looking for black spec Cortland for well over 10 years with no luck! 
Thank you Sean......Atlas has some Blue Mountain Linen, which is no longer being made, but the only version available is a black linen with white speck which is mostly a black color with some white yspecks thrown in which is very different than the #12 Cortland. Atlas also has three versions of Hulbert Irish Linen wraps and one seems close but I'd first have to feel the Hulbert Linen on a cue before ordering any. Hurlbert is scheduled to be releasing several new Linen colors before December but to get any, the minimum quantity order is a box of 25 rolls of all the same color.
As you'll appreciate more than other AZers, Cortland Linen possesses a very unique feel. Maybe it's the way the line was twisted, the even thickness of the strands or maybe the type of Flax woven into the line. I dunno why but Cortland is very different than other Linens. That's why I jumped on the opportunity to get some Cortland #9 Joe Pechauer released for my cue being made. I'd hate to install a Hulbert Linen and have regrets afterwards over the way it feels versus the Cortland Linen.
Since my Scruggs, Mottey and Schon cues have Cortland Linen wraps, I'd be irked if the Hulbert Linen did not have the same feel that Cortland has. From my experience, I have never held any other Linen wrap that has the same feel that Cortland Linen has and it's so unique that I'd even settle for the wrong color Cortland rather than not have any Cortland Linen wrap at all.
As you'll appreciate more than other AZers, Cortland Linen possesses a very unique feel. Maybe it's the way the line was twisted, the even thickness of the strands or maybe the type of Flax woven into the line. I dunno why but Cortland is very different than other Linens. That's why I jumped on the opportunity to get some Cortland #9 Joe Pechauer released for my cue being made. I'd hate to install a Hulbert Linen and have regrets afterwards over the way it feels versus the Cortland Linen.
Since my Scruggs, Mottey and Schon cues have Cortland Linen wraps, I'd be irked if the Hulbert Linen did not have the same feel that Cortland has. From my experience, I have never held any other Linen wrap that has the same feel that Cortland Linen has and it's so unique that I'd even settle for the wrong color Cortland rather than not have any Cortland Linen wrap at all.
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To the Front Page ............At least hopefully for a couple of hours?
I cannot state with any certainty the lbs. test rating of Cortland Linen #12 and the amount needed is based upon what I've either read or been told. What I do know is that the difference between Cortland Linen #9 and Cortland Linen #12 is the color speck used in each wrap.
Cortland Linen #9 is basically a white linen with green specks and #12 is white with black specks. It's my understanding that a pool cue typically requires 50 yards (150 ft.) of Linen and that's what I am looking to acquire. Any help or suggestions you can provide are very much appreciated.
Cortland Linen #9 is basically a white linen with green specks and #12 is white with black specks. It's my understanding that a pool cue typically requires 50 yards (150 ft.) of Linen and that's what I am looking to acquire. Any help or suggestions you can provide are very much appreciated.
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It was 3# per strand, so 36lb test.
It was 3# per strand, so 36lb test.
One Possible Opportunity So Far But Nothing Concrete Yet
Thanks to everyone who's read this thread and especially, those who have offered suggestions and opinions too.
To The Front Page.....last time it was remained there for several hours too......but that's probably because AM traffic on the Forum tends to be light for understandable reasons.
Thank you Sean for the added info.......I didn't have a clue for an answer to the poster's question about lbs. strength rating.
Thanks to everyone who's read this thread and especially, those who have offered suggestions and opinions too.
To The Front Page.....last time it was remained there for several hours too......but that's probably because AM traffic on the Forum tends to be light for understandable reasons.
Thank you Sean for the added info.......I didn't have a clue for an answer to the poster's question about lbs. strength rating.
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Reposition to the front of the line.....at least for a little while.
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This past weekend I received progress photos from my cue-maker on how my cue is faring.........All I can say at this point is Wow.
Just amazing to look at the points and veneers and what's so great is the best is yet to come.......Now I am getting excited since
the finish line is within sight.
I have 7-8 weeks at most to locate a 50 yds. spool of Cortland Linen #12 for my cue-maker........that could be cutting it close.
Fortunately, I am in possession of some Cortland Linen #9 (white w/ green speck) thanks to the kindness of Joe Pechauer.
In any event, finding some Cortland Linen #12 (white w/ black speck) would be the piece de resistance for my cue design.
Any help would be very much appreciated........Thanks for reading my post.
Just amazing to look at the points and veneers and what's so great is the best is yet to come.......Now I am getting excited since
the finish line is within sight.
I have 7-8 weeks at most to locate a 50 yds. spool of Cortland Linen #12 for my cue-maker........that could be cutting it close.
Fortunately, I am in possession of some Cortland Linen #9 (white w/ green speck) thanks to the kindness of Joe Pechauer.
In any event, finding some Cortland Linen #12 (white w/ black speck) would be the piece de resistance for my cue design.
Any help would be very much appreciated........Thanks for reading my post.
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