Couple spin transfer videos

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Donkey Puncher

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I posted a couple videos on my f@cebo0k page that I thought you all might want to check out.

Nothing too fancy, but was explaining a concept to my friend Alex. Most decent players know the first one.

Both of these shots I first found out by pure accident while playing and just experimenting with stroke techniques.
 
Donkey Puncher said:
Just uploaded them to YouTube....

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Great shots, but neither of those are showing "spin transfer" in the context of most spin transfer discussions.

What do others call this type of shot ?
Spin out?
Stun spin?
Rail first cross table with inside/ outside to spin down/up table?

Freddie <~~~ door #3
 
Cornerman said:
Great shots, but neither of those are showing "spin transfer" in the context of most spin transfer discussions.

What do others call this type of shot ?
Spin out?
Stun spin?
Rail first cross table with inside/ outside to spin down/up table?

Freddie <~~~ door #3
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The first shot is a rail-first shot with draw. The second looks like it is also a cushion-first (but it's hard to tell) with reverse and is common at 3-C. I would just call them rail-first with a lot of spin.
 
Cornerman said:
Great shots, but neither of those are showing "spin transfer" in the context of most spin transfer discussions.

What do others call this type of shot ?
Spin out?
Stun spin?
Rail first cross table with inside/ outside to spin down/up table?

Freddie <~~~ door #3
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True...
I was talking to a friend about a type of spin transfer shot but thought of these which are easier to perform.
I will post another if I can of another particular shot that I saw Corey Deuel perform HERE at 8:14 which is a better example. I might need a table with more springy rails however.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The first shot is a rail-first shot with draw. The second looks like it is also a cushion-first (but it's hard to tell) with reverse and is common at 3-C. I would just call them rail-first with a lot of spin.
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Actually, on the first shot, it's RIGHT and nothing else.....
 
Donkey Puncher said:
Just uploaded them to YouTube....

#1#2
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Rail2Rail doesn't have it in their archive anymore , but Stan Tourangeau made that shot in a match against Eddie Mataya at a Shotze's tourny. The angle was greater and 1 ball was off the rail more. The 2 was on foot rail like your 9.He came across table because he had a ball blocking so he couldn't draw straight back.I'm talking about your #1 example.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The cue ball appeared to come back a diamond as it came across the table. I think that usually requires draw on the cue ball.
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Yeah I think he intended to use only right English but actually hit low right.

I took some snap shots to show you what I mean.

This is where you come set just before your final back swing. (I thought your back swing was a bit rushed)
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This is just before your tip makes contact with the cue ball. It looks a little low right to me, just enough to account for the CB coming back off the rail.
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This is your follow through. Notice the tip pushed down into the surface of the table.
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Great shots BTW, they come in very handy at times. Thanks for posting them.

Chris
 
The first is a shot that I know.Its not a draw shot as Bob stated,it is rail first with inside english.

The second shot is crazy,will have to try that one.

By spin transfer I thought you meant from ball to ball.In both of these shots the key is that the spin catches the second rail and not the first rail.
 
If there was any draw on the cue ball, it was unintended and entirely unnecessary for the success of the shot.

In fact, if someone posts a video of themselves hitting shot #1 using straight draw, I will eat an entire chicken...........without killing it first.

Also these were both one take videos that I showed a friend just to explain a concept, and I was not too concerned about being critiqued on my obviously imperfect mechanics, but thanks for that....
 
You look vaguely familiar.. did you ever play at Skyland? I played there for a couple of BCA sessions a few years back. If you ever want to cross the river and play some, feel free to hit me up.
 
Donkey Puncher said:
Also these were both one take videos that I showed a friend just to explain a concept, and I was not too concerned about being critiqued on my obviously imperfect mechanics, but thanks for that....
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And this is why I don't bother posting here much anymore. I was just trying to help you out in a positive way. Screw this, I got better things to do............................
 
Donkey Puncher said:
If there was any draw on the cue ball, it was unintended and entirely unnecessary for the success of the shot.

In fact, if someone posts a video of themselves hitting shot #1 using straight draw, I will eat an entire chicken...........without killing it first.

Also these were both one take videos that I showed a friend just to explain a concept, and I was not too concerned about being critiqued on my obviously imperfect mechanics, but thanks for that....
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I assume you mean hitting the second rail above the side pocket. Just using draw, it's not hard at all to get shape on the 9 going two rails, but the cb hits below the side pocket on the second rail. Nice shots.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The first shot is a rail-first shot with draw. The second looks like it is also a cushion-first (but it's hard to tell) with reverse and is common at 3-C. I would just call them rail-first with a lot of spin.
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Agree. typical shots in 3-C and best achieved by hitting a fuller object ball.
 
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