I was playing one pocket and my opponent has a ball deep in his pocket. I softly shoot to make his hanging ball, and while the cue ball is in motion his ball falls into the pocket and the cue ball scratches right after in the same pocket. I have never seen anything like this happen before. Not sure what the rule is on something like this because it has never come up before. I end up with a foul having to spot up a ball, and he spots his ball back in the jaws of the pocket, and takes ball in hand in the kitchen and ends up running out. Needless to say my wallet was not very happy. I can look back and laugh about it now.
Crazy One Pocket Scenario
- Thread starter Rack’em
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Incorrect call. The object ball is respotted and the cue ball is replaced as close as possible (both players should agree) to where it was before. No loss of ball! The entire shot is nullified and must be replayed.
P.S. This happened one or two times in pro tournaments that I officiated. If an object ball falls in the pocket after you take the table (previous player has finished his turn) it must be respotted. That's the rule. The previous player does not get to go back to the table even if you have not shot yet.
P.S. This happened one or two times in pro tournaments that I officiated. If an object ball falls in the pocket after you take the table (previous player has finished his turn) it must be respotted. That's the rule. The previous player does not get to go back to the table even if you have not shot yet.
actually if the ball was hanging for 5 seconds or more the cue ball and object ball would be respotted
if you shot before 5 seconds and it fell...he keeps it you fouled
from BCA rules (its the first thing that came up in my search but the 5 second rule is pretty universal regarding does a ball stay down or not)
i bolded the relevant part
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30. BALLS MOVING SPONTANEOUSLY. If a ball shifts, settles, turns or otherwise moves "by itself," the ball shall remain in the position it assumed and play continues. A hanging ball that falls into a pocket "by itself" after being motionless for 5 seconds or longer shall be replaced as closely as possible to its position prior to falling, and play shall continue. If an object ball drops into a pocket "by itself" as a player shoots at it, so that the cue ball passes over the spot the ball had been on, unable to hit it, the cue ball and object ball are to be replaced to their positions prior to the stroke, and the player may shoot again. Any other object balls disturbed on the stroke are also to be replaced to their original positions before the shooter replays.
if you shot before 5 seconds and it fell...he keeps it you fouled
from BCA rules (its the first thing that came up in my search but the 5 second rule is pretty universal regarding does a ball stay down or not)
i bolded the relevant part
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30. BALLS MOVING SPONTANEOUSLY. If a ball shifts, settles, turns or otherwise moves "by itself," the ball shall remain in the position it assumed and play continues. A hanging ball that falls into a pocket "by itself" after being motionless for 5 seconds or longer shall be replaced as closely as possible to its position prior to falling, and play shall continue. If an object ball drops into a pocket "by itself" as a player shoots at it, so that the cue ball passes over the spot the ball had been on, unable to hit it, the cue ball and object ball are to be replaced to their positions prior to the stroke, and the player may shoot again. Any other object balls disturbed on the stroke are also to be replaced to their original positions before the shooter replays.
National refs.
The five second rule applies to a ball that appears parked but/then drops into the pocket.
Respot.... restart again.
The five second rule applies to a ball that appears parked but/then drops into the pocket.
Respot.... restart again.
Thank you I appreciate the feedback. I doubt it will ever come up again.