Cringe-worthy Army Commercial

David in FL said:
Anyone with military leadership experience, from E4 and above, is prepared for and sought after in the civilian sector for management positions in any number of industries, regardless of occupational specialty.
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Jebus, really? I was an E4 right out of A school. Obviously Executive material.
 
jasonlaus said:
🤣🤣🤣 you never fail to be the clown 🤡🤡🤡.
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You're the one craving sailor loins, don't point that thing at me.
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MajorMiscue said:
I was one of the original crew of the USS Tarawa, LHA-1, our duty was to transport marines to their amphibious assault. The ship was brand new, no bugs, no rodents. We sailed her from Pascagoula Mississippi to San Diego through the canal with just the 237 man crew, no marines.

We took exceptional care of the ship. It was our home. There was NO food in berthing areas, no trash anywhere, ever.
Then we picked up 5000 marines and housed them for 30 days at sea until they did their practice assault on Camp Pendleton (we wanted to assault/capture Tijuana for a day but noooooo).

They trashed the ship. litter and apple cores everywhere, candy bar wrappers, half eaten junk food stuffed into cubby holes. Not to mention smoking dope on a fueling station right after a refuel, lighting up while standing in 2" deep fuel. They acted like they just didn't GAF.

Their offload was glorious. The Tarawa was a round bottomed carrier so she could operate in shallow waters. When not under power, she turned sideways to the swells and rocked like crazy. The Marines weren't used to our brand of rock and roll and they were adding USMC puke to their mess in buckets. Then they climbed the boarding rope ladders into the landing craft and sat awaiting orders to the beach for a couple hours. They were packed in like sardines, puking all over each other. The few who weren't sea sick were soon puking anyway. Good riddance.

The ship's crew took the opportunity to man the rail and add to their misery with streams of warm sailor pee. What were they going to do, they had a date on the beach. We had another week to do at sea and every day of it was spent cleaning up for marines and throwing their adrift gear over the side.
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I wonder if you realize this post reflects far more poorly on the ship's crew than the marines? The act of profound cowardness of peeing down on helpless men a hundred feet below(at a guess, I know those ships are over 800 feet long, I don't know rail height) at any rate it certainly doesn't imply anything good about the sailors at the rail. Your implication that you were one of those men should be a lasting shame that you would mention to nobody. Certainly not on this forum when a fellow AZB member has a marines only website with over thirty thousand marines, their families, and former marines on it.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
I wonder if you realize this post reflects far more poorly on the ship's crew than the marines? The act of profound cowardness of peeing down on helpless men a hundred feet below(at a guess, I know those ships are over 800 feet long, I don't know rail height) at any rate it certainly doesn't imply anything good about the sailors at the rail. Your implication that you were one of those men should be a lasting shame that you would mention to nobody. Certainly not on this forum when a fellow AZB member has a marines only website with over thirty thousand marines, their families, and former marines on it.

Hu
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We took great pride in the condition of our ship. They left trash all over it. Symbolic comeuppance.
We had to clean the ship while they played on the beach.
 
MajorMiscue said:
Jebus, really? I was an E4 right out of A school. Obviously Executive material.
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There’s a big difference between a navy E-4 tech fresh out of school, with no leadership experience, and a Marine corporal who has led a fireteam in combat for 2 years…
 
MajorMiscue said:
We took great pride in the condition of our ship. They left trash all over it. Symbolic comeuppance.
We had to clean the ship while they played on the beach.
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Funny you mention "pride"

One thing for certain is there was a bunch of trash left on the ship - they were all wearing the same uniform
 
ShootingArts said:
I wonder if you realize this post reflects far more poorly on the ship's crew than the marines? The act of profound cowardness of peeing down on helpless men a hundred feet below(at a guess, I know those ships are over 800 feet long, I don't know rail height) at any rate it certainly doesn't imply anything good about the sailors at the rail. Your implication that you were one of those men should be a lasting shame that you would mention to nobody. Certainly not on this forum when a fellow AZB member has a marines only website with over thirty thousand marines, their families, and former marines on it.

Hu
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Honestly, I don’t believe that part of his story either.

As I said, I’ve likely spent more time aboard Navy ships as a Marine than he ever did in the Navy. Navy officers and NCOs would never have allowed such a thing. His punk ass would’ve been scrubbing toilets with a toothbrush for months…
 
MajorMiscue said:
Yeah, the marine is easily replaced, highly qualified techs, not so much.
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Yet another case of ignorant, misplaced arrogance demonstrating that you have little experience in what you’re talking about.

Technicians in all fields are a vital part of the military team. Both military, and private sector business, couldn’t function as effectively without them these days. But make no mistake, very few of them are leaders in any sense of the word. Many can barely function outside of their limited scope of knowledge/responsibility.
 
And how much time have you spent as an enlisted techie, tank driver?
Get back in your cammies where you belong, leave the thinking jobs to us.
 
MajorMiscue said:
And how much time have you spent as an enlisted techie, tank driver?
Get back in your cammies where you belong, leave the thinking jobs to us.
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Three years enlisted, 20 years as an officer. Retired lieutenant colonel.

Subsequently 20 years as an executive/vice president in the private sector.

We can compare resumes, salaries, numbers of direct/indirect report employees, or anything else you like. We can certainly compare real, quantifiable contributions to an organization‘s bottom line and mission, in combat or the boardroom. You don’t even want to start comparing the accomplishments of those that I’ve professionally developed and mentored along the way to any that you might have. Or to your own very narrow, limited area of knowledge.

Perhaps you should think just a little bit more and you might stop embarrassing yourself.
 
Well, count me among the sailors that have cleaned up troop berthing after the slob Marines disembarked. Our spaces were never in the condition we turned them over in and I even hauled bags and bags of trash out of the attached fan room (my responsibility as divisional damage control P.O.) because some lcpl was too lazy to haul it where it was to be disposed. LPH-9 decomm crew and deployed with both2-2 and 2-6MEU.
 
David in FL said:
Three years enlisted, 20 years as an officer. Retired lieutenant colonel.

Subsequently 20 years as an executive/vice president in the private sector.

We can compare resumes, salaries, numbers of direct/indirect report employees, or anything else you like. We can certainly compare real, quantifiable contributions to an organization‘s bottom line and mission, in combat or the boardroom. You don’t even want to start comparing the accomplishments of those that I’ve professionally developed and mentored along the way to any that you might have. Or to your own very narrow, limited area of knowledge.

Perhaps you should think just a little bit more and you might stop embarrassing yourself.
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Oh, look who's butthurt.
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David in FL said:
Still embarrassing yourself...

But I guess that’s what happens when you really don’t have much in the way of your own personal accomplishments…
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Of every 1000 who applied for my profession one (1) was hired. of those 50% washed out of the academy and 30$ washed out at their first facility. I was exemplary throughout my career, working as a controller in both radar and ATCT environments, went on to staff writing procedures and instruction manuals, went on to supervision and eventually management.

In short, you couldn't do for a minute what I did for 32 years. You're welcome.
 
MajorMiscue said:
Of every 1000 who applied for my profession one (1) was hired. of those 50% washed out of the academy and 30$ washed out at their first facility. I was exemplary throughout my career, working as a controller in both radar and ATCT environments, went on to staff writing procedures and instruction manuals, went on to supervision and eventually management.

In short, you couldn't do for a minute what I did for 32 years. You're welcome.
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There are lots of things that I couldn’t do. Even more that I wouldn’t want to. Directing traffic, whether in the air or on the ground is just one of them.

As I said, we need techs in all sorts of fields to support, each in their own limited way, the overall mission/goal of the organization.
 
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