Critique this video 2

[Neil]

This is just to address the "hook" mentioned earlier.
My cue hooks to the left 6 inches past the CB. I have found the cause to be that during my extended follow through with my elbow drop, at the 6 inch mark my closed bridge forces the cue into the cloth almost like applying a brake. To avoid digging into the cloth my wrist and elbow relax and swing out wide. From doing this drill thousands of times the marks are wore into the cloth. The line is clear -straight through the cue and six inches past, then the hook left. In a video it can be seen that I don't do this on center ball or high hits so I'm pretty sure it's due to the reason I mentioned. Maybe it's the same cause of yours?

I don't think it's from friction of the cloth. Most likely is that you are not correctly lined up to start with, slightly steer the cue, then when you do relax the cue starts going down it's actual natural path that your arm and wrist are lined up to.

Fixed this with a student today just by having the person relax the grip, make sure that when their arm just swung naturally it was on the shot line, and point the thumb down.

Yes, I still have a few flaws to work out in my own stroke. :smile:

 

[Neil]

Questions about video 2
Which shot do you feel was the best?
How exact was cb placement-shot to shot?
Ever do this with ob 2 dmnds out and try to follw strt thru?
I lilke your posts

-First set #2, second set 1,4,8,& 10 where about as perfect as one can expect to get.
-cb and ob where placed in paper hole reinforcements, so as exact as you can get. If you have a PC you can hold a straight edge on cb/ob centers and not move it for the video. That also shows how straight or crooked the cue line was.
-Yes, also from half table ob and cb one ball width off the rail.
-Thanks!

 

[alphadog]

-First set #2, second set 1,4,8,& 10 where about as perfect as one can expect to get.
-cb and ob where placed in paper hole reinforcements, so as exact as you can get. If you have a PC you can hold a straight edge on cb/ob centers and not move it for the video. That also shows how straight or crooked the cue line was.
-Yes, also from half table ob and cb one ball width off the rail.
-Thanks!

I think your stroke was "pure" on 16
CB return was because of hit on the OB.
10,11,14,and 18 were solid.
I asked about the follow shot only because I surprised myself with how damn hard it is to -
1 Repeat the exact set up-ob & cb.
2 Repeat a stroke true enough to follow straight through.
3.How ,even on big tables with brutal pockets,allowable margin of error must creep into my subconcious! As I pocket the OB but not always "Deadcenter".Hell maybe my poor vision
won't allow me to shoot any better!
Thanks,keep posting.

 

[JolietJames]

I don't think it's from friction of the cloth. Most likely is that you are not correctly lined up to start with, slightly steer the cue, then when you do relax the cue starts going down it's actual natural path that your arm and wrist are lined up to.

I'll take some video of following the OB into the pocket to check. Or I suppose I could try my standard drill with an open bridge to see where my cue ends up in relation to the shot line. If I still end up hooking the cue then you are probably right.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Yes, I still have a few flaws to work out in my own stroke. :smile:

I have to say that anyone who thinks they have no flaws in their stroke either haven't see themselves play on video, or are not being honest to themselves.

Even the best players in the world tweak and modify their stroke.

 

[alphadog]

I have to say that anyone who thinks they have no flaws in their stroke either haven't see themselves play on video, or are not being honest to themseves.


Truer words then those who arent honest with themseves can handle.

 

[SmoothStroke]

The Click

Just looks tense because it's done the same way every time. I am actually very loose and relaxed. To me, 3 speed is length of the table 3 times with no contact of any ob. I'm half table away and draw it table length. If you can do that with the same speed as a lag shot, which is 2 speed, I'd like to see it.

4 click is the most powerful stroke you can hit,,after that it is the power break stroke which is all on its own, not that you have to break that powerful.
..Work your way back from 4 click and you will see, no reason to pound that shot from that distance....hit lower.....dig in the cloth....throw some wrist into it and watch that cueball grab rotation like it is suppose to. You may be surprised that you might stay in your cue ball track more consistently.