CTE Aiming Users

SpiderWebComm said:
Mike:

We only spent about 90 seconds on CTE, so respectfully (I stress respectfully) I have to say your post is very general and not really true.

At the same time, I honestly don't want to post the super details because it's not mine to share and I think some people would be upset.
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I don't really want to debate these approaches here. I've made my peace with them ;-)

I'm really not talking about CTE specifically, but rather about pivot-based aiming generally. 90/90, etc.

We played for several hours: straight pool, bank pool, and 9-ball. We spent a fair amount of time talking about your approach to pivoting--you showing me at the table, you talking about what direction you pivot from on what shots, you showing me what you do under what circumstances, you telling me what others do, etc. I watched you for hundreds of shots, watching carefully exactly what you do and frequently stopping you to ask you questions about it.

Remember, I've worked at the table talking about aiming systems with Hal Houle, Bob Jewett, Randy G., Tom Simpson, and many others. I have things I'm looking for. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I'm talking about my own assessment. I have come to peace with my functional understanding of what YOU mean by pivot and what you mean by "finding the correct center" and so forth.

I had my little pivoting gizmo with me, remember? We both agreed there was no point in even taking it out of the bag because that gizmo is related to what I mean by PIVOT and not what YOU mean by the word.

I'm OK with that.
 
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frankncali said:
Mike

BTW-- do you know of any device out there that allows a player to shoot at a target ( contact point size) and it give feedback in some way as to whether the exact spot was hit? From my sports days it was always taught that the better you got you needed to learn to aim for smaller targets. Could the overlap or ghost ball be too big of target to practice?
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I know there's a product out there that sits on the rail, and provides feedback as to whether you hit the center of its "target zone." perhaps someone on here has it, or can at least remember what it's called.

Or, if you want the free solution... Freeze a ball to the rail. Then, shoot the cue ball into it so that the cue ball bounces straight back to your tip. It's a variation on what I've seen called "the ulitmate drill," or one of the "mother" drills.

Using a ball as a target as opposed to the rail gives you practice aiming at a ball (which you'll ultimately be doing anyway), and gives you more unforgiving feedback. If you don't hit that ball squarely, you'll know. On the other hand, if you can do this with any sort of regularity, you've accomplished something!

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mikepage said:
I don't really want to debate these approaches here. I've made my peace with them ;-)

I'm really not talking about CTE specifically, but rather about pivot-based aiming generally. 90/90, etc.

We played for several hours: straight pool, bank pool, and 9-ball. We spent a fair amount of time talking about your approach to pivoting--you showing me at the table, you talking about what direction you pivot from on what shots, you showing me what you do under what circumstances, you telling me what others do, etc. I watched you for hundreds of shots, watching carefully exactly what you do and frequently stopping you to ask you questions about it.

Remember, I've worked at the table talking about aiming systems with Hal Houle, Bob Jewett, Randy G., Tom Simpson, and many others. I have things I'm looking for. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I'm talking about my own assessment. I have come to peace with my functional understanding of what YOU mean by pivot and what you mean by "finding the correct center" and so forth.

I had my little pivoting gizmo with me, remember? We both agreed there was no point in even taking it out of the bag because that gizmo is related to what I mean by PIVOT and not what YOU mean by the word.

I'm OK with that.
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I think we agreed "pivot" was a bad term.

The distance that gizmo must be from the CB differs shot to shot, but your bridge doesn't have to be.

You gave me an idea for a new video, actually.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Mike:

We only spent about 90 seconds on CTE, so respectfully (I stress respectfully) I have to say your post is very general and not really true.

At the same time, I honestly don't want to post the super details because it's not mine to share and I think some people would be upset.

The secret is in the pivot... and I already told the world how to pivot with my CTE SHOT CIRCLE thread from a month or so ago. That is, if you even WANT to pivot (which is not required, truthfully). One could step into the top of the shot circle which is your post-pivot position and you can fire the shot in (which is also called air-pivoting by many). Based on this, your bridge placement is immaterial if your "bridge hand spot" resides on this line.

Should someone not get that advanced with CTE and choose to offset their bridge with a static bridge length/position, your bridge length must be conducive for a pivot that can follow the shot-arc.

This system is quite a lot better than estimation and I'm starting to figure out a lot about the geometry on my own. I have about 20 pages typed-up into a VERY detailed CTE Guide; however, I don't know what to do with it and I don't know if I want to share it (for a lot of reasons). I think the only reason I invested the time into making this guide is because there isn't a written record of the system anywhere.

I'm at a disadvantage because I've spent years on this and have it figured out and everyone else knows what they read on here - which is all incomplete. I just wish I could stroke straight! ha!

Anyways, I hope that makes sense. I'm not going to participate in the thread beyond this because it's a like fighting with both arms behind my back and it's not my fight.

Regards,
Dave

P.S. PJ, you're right--- neither are half-ball hits. The half-ball sight is your beginning reference point, fyi.
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Hey Dave,

I would love to get my hands on that manual ;) Hopefully I will be visiting Stan this summer. I do the air/hip pivot but feel it's somewhat inconsistant, I'm confident Stan will straighten that out for me :)

Take care mate, love the vids!
 
spoons said:
I know there's a product out there that sits on the rail, and provides feedback as to whether you hit the center of its "target zone." perhaps someone on here has it, or can at least remember what it's called.
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Thank you ESPN Classic.

http://www.accueshot.com/

Saw this commercial today on something my DVR recorded, and it looks like they still make these puppies. For what it's worth.
 
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