CTE and the dominant eye.

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LAMas

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Not wanting to interrupt the ongoing threads on CTE, I proffer this.

CTE and the dominant eye.

I have a dominant right eye and am a right handed shooter. I therefore stroke my shots under my right eye and also on the right side of my chin. I used to stroke under the center of my chin but would often miss my shot to the right side of the pocket /target. When I stroke under my chin and close my left eye to see what my dominant right eye is looking/aimed at and I see that I am aiming a bit to the left of the target that I am aiming at.

When I stroke under my right eye and close my left eye, my right eye is now aiming at the center of the target.

When I stroke under my chin, my shoulder above my stroking arm is in line with my stroking of the cue. When I stroke under my right eye, my shoulder is in a different location (more to the right) but is in line with the stroke.

When I am aiming on the CTE line to cut the OB to the right and find the secondary spot on the OB, say the center (B) on the OB; I am looking at the secondary aiming line with my right eye only. This is true whether I stroke under the center of my chin or under my dominant right eye and the right side of my chin.

Where am I going with this???

Aiming at the secondary aim spot on the OB is with the right eye in both cases, but my shoulder will be in one location if I am stroking under the center of chin and a different location, to the right, when I am stroking under my dominant eye and on the right side of my chin.

Therefore, when I get down on my shot and move/slide my bridge hand and cue shaft to the ½ tip offset and no longer parallel to the CTE line but will be aiming at a new angle to it determined by the location of my shoulder. There will be one shoulder location and stroke if I am under my chin and a different location of my shoulder and stroke when I am stroking to the right side of my chin.

Therefore I will achieve one cut angle on the OB if I am stroking under my chin and another if I am stroking to the right of my chin. This difference in the stroke angle is consistent regardless of what secondary aim point on the OB you are aiming at.

So, different strokes for different folks and different cut angles for the same CTE/Pro One shot. This makes instruction a bit more complicated, I presume, but entirely possible.

Just sayin.:):thumbup:
 
PocketPoint said:
Cookie Man, I'm hoping to just put all this CTE stuff to rest and be friends. I'm tired of fighting. What do you say?
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That's fine, but this is a CTE thread and to discuss it properly you should have at least have tried to learn it at the table. Most CTE is shot with bhe.
 
LAMas said:
Not wanting to interrupt the ongoing threads on CTE, I proffer this.

CTE and the dominant eye.

I have a dominant right eye and am a right handed shooter. I therefore stroke my shots under my right eye and also on the right side of my chin. I used to stroke under the center of my chin but would often miss my shot to the right side of the pocket /target. When I stroke under my chin and close my left eye to see what my dominant right eye is looking/aimed at and I see that I am aiming a bit to the left of the target that I am aiming at.

When I stroke under my right eye and close my left eye, my right eye is now aiming at the center of the target.

When I stroke under my chin, my shoulder above my stroking arm is in line with my stroking of the cue. When I stroke under my right eye, my shoulder is in a different location (more to the right) but is in line with the stroke.

When I am aiming on the CTE line to cut the OB to the right and find the secondary spot on the OB, say the center (B) on the OB; I am looking at the secondary aiming line with my right eye only. This is true whether I stroke under the center of my chin or under my dominant right eye and the right side of my chin.

Where am I going with this???

Aiming at the secondary aim spot on the OB is with the right eye in both cases, but my shoulder will be in one location if I am stroking under the center of chin and a different location, to the right, when I am stroking under my dominant eye and on the right side of my chin.

Therefore, when I get down on my shot and move/slide my bridge hand and cue shaft to the ½ tip offset and no longer parallel to the CTE line but will be aiming at a new angle to it determined by the location of my shoulder. There will be one shoulder location and stroke if I am under my chin and a different location of my shoulder and stroke when I am stroking to the right side of my chin.

Therefore I will achieve one cut angle on the OB if I am stroking under my chin and another if I am stroking to the right of my chin. This difference in the stroke angle is consistent regardless of what secondary aim point on the OB you are aiming at.

So, different strokes for different folks and different cut angles for the same CTE/Pro One shot. This makes instruction a bit more complicated, I presume, but entirely possible.

Just sayin.:):thumbup:
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Most of us aim with both eyes. At the distance you are describing, the dominant eye is now working along with your other eye.....randyg
 
LAMas said:
Not wanting to interrupt the ongoing threads on CTE, I proffer this.

CTE and the dominant eye.

I have a dominant right eye and am a right handed shooter. I therefore stroke my shots under my right eye and also on the right side of my chin. I used to stroke under the center of my chin but would often miss my shot to the right side of the pocket /target. When I stroke under my chin and close my left eye to see what my dominant right eye is looking/aimed at and I see that I am aiming a bit to the left of the target that I am aiming at.

When I stroke under my right eye and close my left eye, my right eye is now aiming at the center of the target.
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LAMas,

With the cue centered or moving over to your left eye, you see an 'apparent' object ball which is located slightly to the left of the real object ball. If you aim to it you will hit the ball to the right. I'm right handed, right dominant eye also, and have been cataloging some of these things lately.

For instance, I over cut balls to the left and under cut to the right when I play by feel. When I go to a system, this gets eliminated and my eyes balance correctly. No fighting and dominance issues. I attain a blended picture of the shot that is consistent and allows my mind to have a base to work with. Then I can trust my eyes and start pocketing balls with the one true angle I need.

I feel there are different ways a player can lineup to make balls, but only one elusive, true place to be with their visual alignment. If and when they figure this out consciously or by rote/experience, their game will jump to a much higher level. We've all heard the stories about the guy who used to play just average, but now he's scary good. I believe his optimum visual alignment was realized and the learning curve became the doing machinery.

That's why you play better with a new cue stick. You believe it will help your game and you go to automatic to let it happen. Your pool mind takes over and does the natural thing it knows how to do. Then you snap back to reality and it's business as usual. Oh well! :wink:

Best,
Mike
 
Mikjary,
Thanks for your comments on aiming.
Before I start to shoot, I take several practice straight in shots until I am in position under or to the right side of my chin. I do this until I can make 5 to 10 in a row. I then use that location (under my chin) for the rest of the session using double distance aiming and GB.

This works for me but I am open to better ways to aim.:)

Thanks.
 
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