CTE for Top USA pros

I don't see any difference in point 1 about perceiving the 2 lines. Yes, there are different line, but 2 are chosen to get the visual... somehow, with a lot of practice... hence, not a very explicit direction.

While the pivot has been said to be at the bridge V, some have said it doesn't at times and every time I've clipped frames from people's videos demonstrating the manual pivot, they have bridge shifted and had a significantly longer effective pivot axis. Hence, observation indicates this is not explicit.

On the tip diameter, check my analysis in the thread analyzing Stan's pivot, where starting 1mm away will lead to about a full pocket variation of OB on medium long shots.

And the air pivot, is much like the visual perception, not an explicit direction, unless instructing one to practice it a lot is explicit.

Cheers,
Colin

Actually, Colin, it is explicit instructions. It's just that you are so focused on other irrelevant material that you totally miss the actual instructions. You say that you have seen and heard different people pivot differently. For starters, forget about the pivot. What you are doing is planting your bridge hand 1/2 tip from center according to the visuals you obtained. Then, you look back at center cb, and line up your cue on the center line of the cb which is the shot line. The half tip just gives one the proper bridge placement for putting the cue on the shot line.
 
Actually, Colin, it is explicit instructions. It's just that you are so focused on other irrelevant material that you totally miss the actual instructions. You say that you have seen and heard different people pivot differently. For starters, forget about the pivot. What you are doing is planting your bridge hand 1/2 tip from center according to the visuals you obtained. Then, you look back at center cb, and line up your cue on the center line of the cb which is the shot line. The half tip just gives one the proper bridge placement for putting the cue on the shot line.
A line requires 2 points. One is CCB, can you explicitly state the other point?

And in case you want to raise the canard of different CB centers, can we just agree that the cue gets lined up to (points at), the center vertical axis of the CB?

Colin
 
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A line requires 2 points. One is CCB, can you explicitly state the other point?

And in case you want to raise the canard of different CB centers, can we just agree that the cue gets lined up to (points at), the center vertical axis of the CB?

Colin

Yes, and it should be obvious to you. It's simply your eyeballs. You draw a line from your eyes through center cb and put your cue on that line. Which should be rather easy, since your bridge hand is already in the correct place to do that.
 
What you are doing is planting your bridge hand 1/2 tip from center according to the visuals you obtained.
If you don't mind, could you tell me if there are explicit instructions on if you move into this 1/2 tip offset from the point of perceiving the visual (hence at an angle - a narrow V) or parallel to it?

If not parallel, should it be the tip at half tip offset or the bridge V 1/2 tip offset from the visual line.

I ask, because if one gets the visual from 3 feet away and bridges at 1 foot away, if the offset is not performed in the parallel manner, but at an angle to the visual, then there would be about 2mm difference between the bridge and visual line and the tip and it's offset distance to the visual.

I know most of you don't think these things matter, but they do, they make significant differences in where a final shot line ends up.

Colin
 
If you don't mind, could you tell me if there are explicit instructions on if you move into this 1/2 tip offset from the point of perceiving the visual (hence at an angle - a narrow V) or parallel to it?

If not parallel, should it be the tip at half tip offset or the bridge V 1/2 tip offset from the visual line.

I ask, because if one gets the visual from 3 feet away and bridges at 1 foot away, if the offset is not performed in the parallel manner, but at an angle to the visual, then there would be about 2mm difference between the bridge and visual line and the tip and it's offset distance to the visual.

I know most of you don't think these things matter, but they do, they make significant differences in where a final shot line ends up.

Colin

Colin, why on earth are you trying to pick it apart, if you don't even know the basic steps to using it? Shouldn't you at least first learn what it is you are trying to discredit?
 
Colin, why on earth are you trying to pick it apart, if you don't even know the basic steps to using it? Shouldn't you at least first learn what it is you are trying to discredit?
Fine, you call it explicitly instructed if that's what you want to believe, I could care less about arguing with people who don't know the difference between spots, lines, circles, planes and dimensions and just go for the ad hominem attack when cornered with logic.

Bridge shift away, coz it wasn't meant to be.

Colin :smile:
 

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Yes, and it should be obvious to you. It's simply your eyeballs. You draw a line from your eyes through center cb and put your cue on that line. Which should be rather easy, since your bridge hand is already in the correct place to do that.
2 lines through each eye pupil center to CCB, or a line from between the eyes, or a line from the dominant eye.

See, it's those pestering details that are never explained, but don't matter. Near enough's good enough when 2:1 takes you to center pocket.

Not to mention, you previously said the cue, or bridge or tip goes to 1/2 tip off this line, not on the line like you're saying here.

Explicitness requires attention to detail, to preclude variables from set parameters.

This is not picking apart the system, this is doing your work for you.

Colin
 
Fine, you call it explicitly instructed if that's what you want to believe, I could care less about arguing with people who don't know the difference between spots, lines, circles, planes and dimensions and just go for the ad hominem attack when cornered with logic.

Bridge shift away, coz it wasn't meant to be.

Colin :smile:

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Fine, you call it explicitly instructed if that's what you want to believe, I could care less about arguing with people who don't know the difference between spots, lines, circles, planes and dimensions and just go for the ad hominem attack when cornered with logic.

Bridge shift away, coz it wasn't meant to be.

Colin :smile:

You must be looking in a mirror as you type, because what you just wrote fits you to a T.

In no way did I make any ad hominem attack. You are just claiming that hoping it will get me banned again so you can say what you want to uncontested. If anything was an attack, it was your statement.

You are so bent on what you think you know about pivots, that sometimes you totally miss the simple things. I clearly explained to you how to do the steps, yet, once again, you spend zero time thinking about it, and just flat out dismiss it because it doesn't fit your outcome of what you think is happening. Exact same thing you did with 90/90. I even made a video to show you where you were going wrong with the 90/90. Which also was totally dismissed because it didn't fit your agenda.

You have done some good work with pivots. But, you also have totally missed some obvious things. Like you have done here. CTE and 90/90 are not so much about the pivot, as they are about lining your cue up on the correct line. They don't even have to be a pivot, just a re-alignment or sweep in the air. That is what you want to totally dismiss.

You keep looking at what a pivot does, and thereby are going at it all backwards. Your goal here is not to pivot, but to put your cue on a given line. Start looking at what one is trying to accomplish instead of one little step, and you will understand it better.

You can say others are attacking you all you want. Even thought just the opposite is actually true. I give you an explanation of how it really works, and you totally dismiss it and call it an attack because it doesn't fit your agenda of trying to disprove it. If you really wanted to learn it, you would at least have given it some thought. But you don't really want to learn it, just attack it. That's your loss, no one elses.
 
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Good job Rick. You giving a thumbs up to a post as dumb as his puts you in the same category. Someone that only wants to discredit, not learn a thing. All you are is a little side-taker. You pick a side, give a thumbs up all the time to anyone and anything said that you think is on the same side you are like some little kid. Never once giving any actual thought to the facts of what is said. Because facts don't matter to you, only which side someone is on. What a sad way to go through life.
 
2 lines through each eye pupil center to CCB, or a line from between the eyes, or a line from the dominant eye.

See, it's those pestering details that are never explained, but don't matter. Near enough's good enough when 2:1 takes you to center pocket.

Not to mention, you previously said the cue, or bridge or tip goes to 1/2 tip off this line, not on the line like you're saying here.

Explicitness requires attention to detail, to preclude variables from set parameters.

This is not picking apart the system, this is doing your work for you.

Colin

You might actually learn something if you quit being so pendantic about details. Anything to discredit, not a second spent trying to understand. As to which eye, you use your vision center. I also clearly stated which line your bridge goes on, but you missed the obvious again because you aren't looking for an answer, just here to try and discredit what you know extremely little about.

Ever wonder how it makes you look when you are trying to discredit something that you know essentially nothing about? It surely doesn't make you look smart.
 
You might actually learn something if you quit being so pendantic about details. Anything to discredit, not a second spent trying to understand. As to which eye, you use your vision center. I also clearly stated which line your bridge goes on, but you missed the obvious again because you aren't looking for an answer, just here to try and discredit what you know extremely little about.

Ever wonder how it makes you look when you are trying to discredit something that you know essentially nothing about? It surely doesn't make you look smart.
The last line is a repeat of your previous ad hominem.

I've no wish for you to be banned Neil.

Re: The line from vision center (a very vague term) to 1/2 tip off center, you never answered that. But not sweating on it. I rewatched your 90/90 video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkm9WE8HMoE

And you tried to use vision center leading to peripheral errors of the 90/90 pre-pivot alignment, yet, every time you found the right pivot, it was on the same bridge length, the very thing you were trying to say only played a small role.

That whole concept came from Spidey about 10 years ago, after he realized he wasn't pivoting from a fixed bridge, as he had claimed he was and I had to point out to him that he wasn't.

imho, having studied every aspect of pivoting I can imagine for 10+ years, becoming very familiar with aim & pivot methods, your knowledge of the subject is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind, if I may borrow from my sig. :)

Colin
 
You might actually learn something if you quit being so pendantic about details.
Explicit systems have answers for any variables relating to the system.

Try some minutiae of BHE on me, as to pivot length, throw, swerve, squirt, shot speed etc. Every aspect imaginable has been considered and tested to within reasonable margins... there's no need for guessing crucial parts, the parts that require practice are mostly mechanical and definable and those that require the development for feel, like slow swerves are clearly defined as such. One could build a robot and replicate it pretty accurately for all shots if they had enough knobs and dials and followed the explicit directions.

Colin
 
Explicit systems have answers for any variables relating to the system.

Try some minutiae of BHE on me, as to pivot length, throw, swerve, squirt, shot speed etc. Every aspect imaginable has been considered and tested to within reasonable margins... there's no need for guessing crucial parts, the parts that require practice are mostly mechanical and definable and those that require the development for feel, like slow swerves are clearly defined as such. One could build a robot and replicate it pretty accurately for all shots if they had enough knobs and dials and followed the explicit directions.

Colin

True that! I was impressed with how much info you had on pivot length when I asked about shot speed affecting BHE on a thread I made a few weeks back.
 
The last line is a repeat of your previous ad hominem.

I've no wish for you to be banned Neil.

Re: The line from vision center (a very vague term) to 1/2 tip off center, you never answered that. But not sweating on it. I rewatched your 90/90 video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkm9WE8HMoE

And you tried to use vision center leading to peripheral errors of the 90/90 pre-pivot alignment, yet, every time you found the right pivot, it was on the same bridge length, the very thing you were trying to say only played a small role.

That whole concept came from Spidey about 10 years ago, after he realized he wasn't pivoting from a fixed bridge, as he had claimed he was and I had to point out to him that he wasn't.

imho, having studied every aspect of pivoting I can imagine for 10+ years, becoming very familiar with aim & pivot methods, your knowledge of the subject is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind, if I may borrow from my sig. :)

Colin

I don't get it, Colin. Seems all you want to do now is make up crap and hope some believe it. What the heck?? Did you even watch the video?? I CLEARLY showed several different pivot lengths, and talked about them. Yet, here you are saying I didn't do that! Do you only see what you want to see, or what??

Instead of thanking Stan for all the hard work he has done just to help others improve their game, here you and others are going 100 miles out of your way to discredit him in the vain hope that it will make you look like you know what you are talking about. You tear others down hoping to build yourself up. Really sad and disgusting. You guys aren't hear to help anyone or learn anything, you are here for yourselves and what little glory you think you can get from an obscure little website. Just like Rick has stated many times, he is building his legacy. It's all me, me, me, and everyone else be damned. Tear down anything if you think it will make you look a little better. Sickening.:angry::angry:
 
I don't get it, Colin. Seems all you want to do now is make up crap and hope some believe it. What the heck?? Did you even watch the video?? I CLEARLY showed several different pivot lengths, and talked about them. Yet, here you are saying I didn't do that! Do you only see what you want to see, or what??

Instead of thanking Stan for all the hard work he has done just to help others improve their game, here you and others are going 100 miles out of your way to discredit him in the vain hope that it will make you look like you know what you are talking about. You tear others down hoping to build yourself up. Really sad and disgusting. You guys aren't hear to help anyone or learn anything, you are here for yourselves and what little glory you think you can get from an obscure little website. Just like Rick has stated many times, he is building his legacy. It's all me, me, me, and everyone else be damned. Tear down anything if you think it will make you look a little better. Sickening.:angry::angry:
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Speculation about my intentions.
Speculation about what I do.
Personal criticism.
Telling me what I should do.
Pathos without Logos.

But nothing about the details of the actual topics.

Almost the definition of an Agent Provocateur.
 
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