CTE posters, crazy or crazy like a fox?

[Jason Robichaud]

I just watch Ralf play Donnie Mills for the hot seat, last years US Open, and during the last rack, on the 5 - CTE, I think!. Ralf, 10-10 shooting the 5, clearly aims at its edge adjusting his back hand to hit middle CB during the stroke.

I am going to search more Souguet videos to see how often this is done.

 

[Johnnyt]

I just watch Ralf play Donnie Mills for the hot seat, last years US Open, and during the last rack, on the 5 - CTE, I think!. Ralf, 10-10 shooting the 5, clearly aims at its edge adjusting his back hand to hit middle CB during the stroke.

I am going to search more Souguet videos to see how often this is done.

Maybe CTE is the secret Ralf is going to share on dvd after he retires....or not. Johnnyt

 

[Jason Robichaud]

Hope he does a better job explaining CTE than his predecessors . I have no clue how it works, but he definitely does a weird aim system on the above shot. Anyone have a link, I watched it on TSN. I searched online for the match and haven't found it.

 

[JoeyA]

Ralf once told me that he has some "SECRETS" that he will not divulge UNTIL he has quit competing.........

 

[JB Cases]

I don't think one can see the "aiming method" by virtue of analyzing videos. But one can see certain motions that LOOK the same as what happens when a person uses CTE.

I personally believe that the pros use whatever is needed for the shot at hand and that they don't consciously select something from an internal shelf except in certain situations where they MIGHT need to actively think about it. I think that in most situations they see the shot and react immediately with the proper approach. They almost have to to avoid paralysis by analysis.

I think that CTE-like motions are what high level pool evolves to. When you watch the pros very few of them lay their cue down on the line to find it. Most of them sort of slide into the shot from the side laying their bridge hand and cue down in one motion.

This looks like CTE, it might be some form of CTE, it might not. Maybe Hal Houle noticed this tendency and developed a system around it to force the motion.

All I know is that CTE works great for me and when I get warmed up and flowing it feels really natural and better than standard old ghost ball aiming. So IF this is what the pros feel then it's great.

I personally believe that GB aiming is fine for beginners but at some point they will drop it in favor of something more CTE-like just as a natural evolution to their game.

 

[Jason Robichaud]

I posted a video on youtube a couple years ago about aiming GB/QB. I gave a method to see the imaginary ball or ball division with actual lines. I called it, Eclipse Aiming.

Using EA, I can sit "ball A" on the table to use for a pocket, then place an OB any where on the table and try potting full ball onto "ball A". I can come extremely close to full ball hits most of the time.

Something happen to my Youtube account and the video is gone, so I might make another and post it on AZTV. It isn't smoke and mirrors or an 'is-all, end-all' for aiming. If you are questioning a pot, you can use it to confirm your aim. It will be the closest thing to potting like a pro snooker player by using an aiming system. Best of all, it only takes about 30 seconds to learn!

Down side to the method:
- shots longer than cue can be tough
- getting lazy and not focusing on the actual line and OB coverage.

Anyone interested?

 

[JoeyA]

Merry Christmas to ALL.

I don't think one can see the "aiming method" by virtue of analyzing videos. But one can see certain motions that LOOK the same as what happens when a person uses CTE.

I personally believe that the pros use whatever is needed for the shot at hand and that they don't consciously select something from an internal shelf except in certain situations where they MIGHT need to actively think about it. I think that in most situations they see the shot and react immediately with the proper approach. They almost have to to avoid paralysis by analysis.

I think that CTE-like motions are what high level pool evolves to. When you watch the pros very few of them lay their cue down on the line to find it. Most of them sort of slide into the shot from the side laying their bridge hand and cue down in one motion.

This looks like CTE, it might be some form of CTE, it might not. Maybe Hal Houle noticed this tendency and developed a system around it to force the motion.

All I know is that CTE works great for me and when I get warmed up and flowing it feels really natural and better than standard old ghost ball aiming. So IF this is what the pros feel then it's great.

I personally believe that GB aiming is fine for beginners but at some point they will drop it in favor of something more CTE-like just as a natural evolution to their game.

I think you have hit the nail on the head once again, John!

It is my opinion that most pros do not know what CTE/Pro One is however they are often found making motions that appear to be pivoting and/or trying to get a perspective to see the shot. If you make the shot using CTE/Pro One or you simply make the shot without using CTE/Pro One you wind up at the same spot.

Some players naturally get to "the correct spot" and others have to work at it, until it becomes more fluid and natural.

That is what I think Pro One is all about. A natural motion that gets you to "the correct spot". While I am headed in that direction, I can see why some people myself included think that there is nothing wrong with the mechanical pivot. Hopefully I will one day be able to put my cue in "the correct spot" every time.

I think you are right about Hal observing the pros and mistakenly thinking they consciously knew the moves and perspectives of his CTE. This is probably where the infamous argument with JA came from.

Anyway, I like your discussions and hope it continues.

JoeyA

 

[JB Cases]

I posted a video on youtube a couple years ago about aiming GB/QB. I gave a method to see the imaginary ball or ball division with actual lines. I called it, Eclipse Aiming.

Using EA, I can sit "ball A" on the table to use for a pocket, then place an OB any where on the table and try potting full ball onto "ball A". I can come extremely close to full ball hits most of the time.

Something happen to my Youtube account and the video is gone, so I might make another and post it on AZTV. It isn't smoke and mirrors or an 'is-all, end-all' for aiming. If you are questioning a pot, you can use it to confirm your aim. It will be the closest thing to potting like a pro snooker player by using an aiming system. Best of all, it only takes about 30 seconds to learn!

Down side to the method:
- shots longer than cue can be tough
- getting lazy and not focusing on the actual line and OB coverage.

Anyone interested?

I am always interested in anything that can help me play better. Even if I don't use it I like to read/watch it and try to understand it. Before Hal Houle sought me out I thought I didn't "need" to know any more about aiming. I never looked in the threads where people were arguing about his systems and thought that they were too complicated to be useful.

I was wrong. So count me in as someone who would love to see what you developed.

 

[3RAILKICK]

I posted a video on youtube a couple years ago about aiming GB/QB. I gave a method to see the imaginary ball or ball division with actual lines. I called it, Eclipse Aiming.

Using EA, I can sit "ball A" on the table to use for a pocket, then place an OB any where on the table and try potting full ball onto "ball A". I can come extremely close to full ball hits most of the time.

Something happen to my Youtube account and the video is gone, so I might make another and post it on AZTV. It isn't smoke and mirrors or an 'is-all, end-all' for aiming. If you are questioning a pot, you can use it to confirm your aim. It will be the closest thing to potting like a pro snooker player by using an aiming system. Best of all, it only takes about 30 seconds to learn!

Down side to the method:
- shots longer than cue can be tough
- getting lazy and not focusing on the actual line and OB coverage.

Anyone interested?

Yes. Always interested in 'another way to get to Burbank'.

Thanks for offering.