CTE PRO ONE Contrast with Quarters System

[SpiderWebComm]

I work on my "visual intelligence" all the time, Stan, I even learn it through practice and experience just as you say you do. Not only that, I also begin with a "master" alignment like CTE does with its CTE line and find my final aim "by feel" with that as a guide.

The only real difference I can see between what I do and how CTE works is that CTE's description of what's happening and how to do it are much harder to understand. I'd like to discuss and understand more clearly what the differences are, but apparently that's too difficult.

Thanks anyway,

pj
chgo

Diversion tactic #2. This is great to know. Put your easier to understand aiming system on video and then differences can be discussed. Or you can put your understanding of CTE on video and it can be discussed. Which do you prefer?
Maybe your aiming system will be far more beneficial to other players without the CTE time investment.

Make sure you're very articulate on what you do during the "feel" part.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Stop saying everyone. Im grateful for Stans hard work, butI I didnt spend 8 months learning cte to be part of the dumbest feud in history.

I dont care if they've asked the same questions over and over. As someone who had to work really hard to be able to use CTE, from an OBJECTIVE standpoint I've yet to read an adequate and satisfying response to any of these questions that doesnt require intense inside knowledge and study.

If you cant explain whatever concept you are defending in a way that a child could understand, you should spend less time being defensive and more time trying to figure out a better way of explaining it.

If you're just going to spend all your efforts spouting the same bullshit excuses we're never going to get anywhere. The only person I see doing any work is Stan, who despite all the naysayers, still puts out video after video in an attempt to help people.

Stop giving out information that only people who already know CTE will understand, and trying to hold it up as an adequate explanation for the rest of the general public.

It's not a requirement to be a mechanic for someone to be interested in buying a car.

:thumbup2::thumbup2::thumbup2:

 

[Patrick Johnson]

LAMas:
Those are nice edge to edge pictures

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Colin:
The 2 ball just happens to be in the background almost along the edge to edge line. I thought the same myself for a few seconds LAMas.

I just noticed what LAMas said (edge to edge, not center to edge). I don't really get your answer, Colin, but FYI the 2 ball's edge is purposely placed on the same CTE line as the 1 ball (which, of course, is an edge to edge line between the 1 and 2) in order to show that it's the same at any distance.

pj
chgo

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Diversion tactic #2. This is great to know. Put your easier to understand aiming system on video and then differences can be discussed. Or you can put your understanding of CTE on video and it can be discussed. Which do you prefer?
Maybe your aiming system will be far more beneficial to other players without the CTE time investment.

Make sure you're very articulate on what you do during the "feel" part.

During the feel part I "measure" the cut angle using the distance between the OB contact point and where my tip's pointing as the "metric", and allowing my subconscious to choose the right distance using "visual intelligence" developed by practice and experience. I train my subconscious to make this judgment by noting the distance on each shot as I practice and by using it as I play.

I believe CTE does essentially the same thing, just using different (more complicated and less clear) "metrics" to guide the subconscious memory-building and judgment. I also think CTE brings some positives to the process - like teaching the value of a consistent pre-shot routine and "orientation alignment" (CTEL) and fixed "reference alignments" (quarters). Too bad that's kind of obscured by the opaque concepts behind these simple "classical" fundamentals.

pj
chgo

 

[stan shuffett]

During the feel part I "measure" the cut angle using the distance between the OB contact point and where my tip's pointing as the "metric", and allowing my subconscious to choose the right distance using "visual intelligence" developed by practice and experience. I train my subconscious to make this judgment by noting the distance on each shot as I practice and by using it as I play.

I believe CTE does essentially the same thing, just using different (more complicated and less clear) "metrics" to guide the subconscious memory-building and judgment. I also think CTE brings some positives to the process - like teaching the value of a consistent pre-shot routine and "orientation alignment" (CTEL) and fixed "reference alignments" (quarters). Too bad that's kind of obscured by the opaque concepts behind these simple "classical" fundamentals.

pj
chgo

Big problem......your scuttlebutt is only what you believe to be true of CTE. That's no good because you do not, can not, and never will speak from true experience. You simply do not know what you don't know.

Stan Shuffett

 

[nobcitypool]

Stop saying everyone. Im grateful for Stans hard work, butI I didnt spend 8 months learning cte to be part of the dumbest feud in history.

I dont care if they've asked the same questions over and over. As someone who had to work really hard to be able to use CTE, from an OBJECTIVE standpoint I've yet to read an adequate and satisfying response to any of these questions that doesnt require intense inside knowledge and study.

If you cant explain whatever concept you are defending in a way that a child could understand, you should spend less time being defensive and more time trying to figure out a better way of explaining it.

If you're just going to spend all your efforts spouting the same bullshit excuses we're never going to get anywhere. The only person I see doing any work is Stan, who despite all the naysayers, still puts out video after video in an attempt to help people.

Stop giving out information that only people who already know CTE will understand, and trying to hold it up as an adequate explanation for the rest of the general public.

It's not a requirement to be a mechanic for someone to be interested in buying a car.

Let me amend my statement. Everyone except TonyTheTiger. I hope that makes you happy dude. You don't need to be part of any feud, simply don't post on the thread. You didn't start the thread and you certainly have no right to tell me how to post. I haven't commented on some of your posts (where I could have), so you might try doing the same. Put me on ignore, that works too.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Big problem......your scuttlebutt is only what you believe to be true of CTE. That's no good because you do not, can not, and never will speak from true experience. You simply do not know what you don't know.

Stan Shuffett

And apparently CTE's users can't tell me. That's OK - I think this has been a revealing conversation anyway.

pj
chgo

 

[SpiderWebComm]

During the feel part I "measure" the cut angle using the distance between the OB contact point and where my tip's pointing as the "metric", and allowing my subconscious to choose the right distance using "visual intelligence" developed by practice and experience. I train my subconscious to make this judgment by noting the distance on each shot as I practice and by using it as I play.

pj
chgo

Is the cut angle an actual numerical angle or just thin/thick. What part of the tip are you talking about, the inside, outside, or center? Is a certain portion of the tip aiming at a spot on the OB the final step?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Is the cut angle an actual numerical angle or just thin/thick.

After enough practice/experience my subconscious knows it when it sees it (what I call "feel" and what CTE calls "visual intelligence").

What part of the tip are you talking about, the inside, outside, or center?

Center.

Is a certain portion of the tip aiming at a spot on the OB the final step?

The center of the tip is aiming a certain distance to the side of the OB contact point. This is obviously easiest for centerball shots, but one can also build a subconscious "database" of the same measurements for sidespin shots too (taking into account squirt/swerve, etc.).

Actually, I "feel like" I'm aiming the CB contact point at the OB contact point - the OBCP-to-tip metric is more (and more visibly precise) data for my subconscious to use in the memory-building/judgment process.

OK, your turn. Be as forthcoming with specifics about how to "acquire the visual" with CTE.

pj
chgo

 

[stan shuffett]

And apparently CTE's users can't tell me. That's OK - I think this has been a revealing conversation anyway.

pj
chgo

You have been informed dozens of times. You are perceptually challenged. Or because of your status and ego as an anti-CTE leader you would NOT speak well of CTE anyway. I would not discount the idea that you already know exactly what the natural CTE phenomenon is......I really think you have more on the ball than to know practically nothing after years of CTE research and analysis.

Stan Shuffett

 

[nobcitypool]

I really think you have more on the ball than to know practically nothing after years of CTE research and analysis.

Stan Shuffett

Stan, I think you may be giving him way more credit than he deserves with that statement.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

You have been informed dozens of times. You are perceptually challenged. Or because of your status and ego as an anti-CTE leader you would NOT speak well of CTE anyway. I would not discount the idea that you already know exactly what the natural CTE phenomenon is......I really think you have more on the ball than to know practically nothing after years of CTE research and analysis.

Stan Shuffett

He's like my ex...knows everything, loves to debate and will climb Mt. Everest instead of admitting they don't know everything and might be in a position to learn something.

 

[stan shuffett]

Stan, I think you may be giving him way more credit than he deserves with that statement.

I could be wrong but how in the world could Pj pull off all of his pujjoonery, I mean buffoonery and NOT be smart at the same time.....if he is smart he must know more about CTE than he professes. It is a way of saving face, likely.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Patrick Johnson]

...I really think you have more on the ball than to know practically nothing after years of CTE research and analysis.

Stan Shuffett

I guess that's a recent realization on your part, because you've said I "know nothing" about it on more than one occasion. Actually, you've said that to multiple people - I think it might be CTE's "mother meme".

pj
chgo

 

[stan shuffett]

He's like my ex...knows everything, loves to debate and will climb Mt. Everest instead of admitting they don't know everything and might be in a position to learn something.

I agree. Come hell or high water..... He is playing dumb to what CTE is. It is like he is playing possum in the middle of the tracks and the CTE train is coming.....

Stan Shuffett

 

[stan shuffett]

I guess that's a recent realization on your part, because you've said I "know nothing" about it on more than one occasion. Actually, you've said that to multiple people - I think it might be CTE's "mother meme".

pj
chgo

You know little to nothing....put yourself out there on video. Let's see what you have...other than a weak hand and fingers on a keyboard.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Stan:
You are perceptually challenged.

Stan:
...you already know exactly what the natural CTE phenomenon is

Stan:
You know little to nothing

C'mon, Stan, make up my mind already!

lol

pj
chgo

 

[duckie]

You know little to nothing....put yourself out there on video. Let's see what you have...other than a weak hand and fingers on a keyboard.

Stan Shuffett

If CTE is such hot shit......how come your name ain't on the AZ Billiards Top Ten Money Leader Board. Hell you aint evn in the top 20.

You are so quick to challenge others yet do nothing yourself in real competition.

 

[stan shuffett]

C'mon, Stan, make up my mind already!

lol

pj
chgo

Now we are getting somewhere. There is no way you could not see what is occurring with CTE.

You are just throwing a smokescreen out there to fuzz up what CTE is. There is no way to have your smarts and not know more than what you claim.

It matches your agenda in every way.

Stan Shuffett

 

[stan shuffett]

If CTE is such hot shit......how come your name ain't on the AZ Billiards Top Ten Money Leader Board. Hell you aint evn in the top 20.

You are so quick to challenge others yet do nothing yourself in real competition.

You can't stand that video either, can you? CTE is going out to the world!!! Ya! ya! Whoopeeeeeee for CTE.....

Stan Shuffett