CTE/Pro One - Why Not Build a Physical Model?
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I agree. The perspective scaling also depends on bridge length and the distance between the CB and the shooter's head, which will vary from one person to the next (and even from shot to shot). Also, if the person's vision center isn't aligned consistently and accurately both during and after the pre-pivot shift, the person's perception of everything might be misleading.
Some CTE users probably also benefit from the help systems like CTE provide.
Regards,
Dave
pj,
Close. The diagram that I posted was for a very thin cut so the starting aim line was the OB edge or contact point (CP) to the center of the CB or CTE line. Then one parallel shifts the cue to the center of the OB (ignoring the CB) and then pivots to the center of the CB, then shoots.
The other cut angles would not start at CTE line but the center of the CB aimed at the contact point (CP) on the OB (regardless of appearant size) and then parallel shifts to the center of the OB, pivot to the the center of the CB and shoot.
For a straight in shot, you start with the center of the CB aimed at the center of the OB with no shift or pivot required...just shoot LOL.
The mechanics of this method attempts to double the distance from the center of the OB to the contact point to send it to the GB. Some here know that shooting at the CP will result in a thick hit.
The shift to the center of the OB moves the bridge and grip to get to the side of the CB center, from there, the pivot back to the center of the Cb creates a new aim line outward from the original center of the CB to CP line. This will approx. double the angle and distance from the CP to the center of the OB (outward) so that the CB will hit the CP by traveling to where the GB should lie.
If one can visualize the infinite CPs on the OB then this method accomodates that many (center ball) shots.
I hope this helps some.:thumbup:
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delmari001
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Thanks for the input. I would agree that one on one instruction would be greatly beneficial to work on 'my' issues and would provide the instructor more time to help me establish the flaws with my fundamentals and ways to correct them.
And that is exactly what I question about the approach. It does not account for the fact that our perception of images at a distance plays many tricks on us.
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1417933?uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=55939931283
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Size_constancy
Really. Then why not give me a lesson as I requested? Uncle Nick is still coming to Toronto on Monday. I'm more than willing to pay for your time. Simply respond to my PM and we'll see you there.
Nick
yes Nick i know and i read your offer two weeks ago, one of hundred you have sent me and I told you many times when i see you act some what normal, i will meet you and show you anything for free.
"I see you just couldn't stay away sir. Rather than get in a bunch of back and forth....I'll make you an offer. I acquired a PRO 1 DVD and studied it. In short...not a chance this works except for the easiest of shots in a small window. I don't believe it. Maybe I'm too dense to absorb.
Therefore I'll make you an offer. I'll take lessons. I happen to be in Toronto in a couple of weeks and am willing to PAY for your time and knowledge. How about $200.00 for an hour of your time? Simple stipulation. I throw up the balls and you show me how I would make them using CTH/Pro 1. We do 10 shots (under your strict supervision and instructions) and if I make 8 I had over the cash with a smile on my face. We can use a measle or stripped ball to ensure I'm not spinning the balls out or any other kind of BS.
So Mr. Champ...what do you think. Oh and welcome back. Your time in the penalty box must have driven you crazy."
why don't you get dr dave,pj or lou or any of the other geniuses that know so much about cte/pro1 to teach you or make a video of how it doesn't work or its faults? You guys can put all your heads together and come up with something and me all by my lonesome will shoot down everything you guys can come up with and we can all bet $$$, hows that? you guys make a video and i will respond in 24 hours with mine? and no waste of time duckie stuff either on it.
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Dead Crab where have you been?
I have added converging lines from the center of the CB to the edge of the smaller OB. I have also added a line from the left edge of the CB to the center of the OB. I have also added a line from the 1/4 point on the CB to the 3/4 point on the OB.
These lines converge through the OB to a vanishing point behind the OB - this is the conventional wisdom of perspective.
What I proffer is the parallel shift (heavy line) to the side of the CTE line that appears to be perfectly parallel to the original CTE line. One must divorce himself from the conventional perception of perspective and converging lines.
This can be done by disregarding the CB altogether while effecting the parallel shift.
I hope that this will help some here.:smile:
Champ,
No brother....I'm coming to you. I have played PJ and I can tell you he knows how to use the business end of a cue. No world beater but plays well and is a great student of the game. I have hit a few balls in my lifetime and figure I can learn from Canada's resident CTH expert.
So will your mother let you come out and play Monday? For you its a can't lose proposition.
Nick
No brother....I'm coming to you. I have played PJ and I can tell you he knows how to use the business end of a cue. No world beater but plays well and is a great student of the game. I have hit a few balls in my lifetime and figure I can learn from Canada's resident CTH expert.
So will your mother let you come out and play Monday? For you its a can't lose proposition.
Nick
Like i also have said in other pm's, i have a feeling all you want to do is beat me so you can come on here and brag,trash me,etc. like i have also said in many pm's, when i can see a normal,calm side to you i will meet and play you. I have a good idea of your speed and they have capped you around 9 or 10 there and lee brett is capped at 8-7 there and mora a 12. I know you can play.
http://www.pooltourneybrackets.com/64playerDouble.php?tour=1&tournament=10&btype=64d
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is there a reason you keep saying CTH? explain to me exactly how you want me to show you "proof it works" i want to read what you have in mind first? i know your going to come up with something $%^&ed up
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ok i will come just to end this and i expect you to post the results here and i will video it too and you better not be a pain in the ass in person either!
This might be a win win situation for you.Take the man up on his offer.
Who really gives a sh!t how any of us plays..really.Let sh!t go ,,try to have fun with things,
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this has been going on for over a year now but usually in pm's. we have even talked on the phone and once he flipped out because he says i trashed PJ on here lol he doesn't realize i can teach cte/pro1 to someone easier than anyone on this site lol
i can teach him the entire system in couple hours at a table including banks lol
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Thanks.
Notice that your sticks are creating an included angle and do not appear to be parallel - although we know that they are? The ends of the sticks at the CB are wider than at the OB.
If the CB an OB were almost touching, your sticks would appear to be more parallel.:smile:
Holy jesus Lama! How can you imagine a diagram like that, but you cant look at a shot and go, yeah the cue ball needs to go here? (And I dont mean that in a bad way, I am seriously happy if that method works for you or anyone else.)