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And after reading some post on this cte stuff it seems people know stuff about cte and dont care to help but like to lead you along .
I think if you no something about something and you dont want to help
dont post at all.You would get rid of alot of bs from people.

I dont think they are "leading him along". I think they are torn between honoring the promise they made to the person that taught them to not post it online, but still not wanting to see the system misrepresented.
 
I hope you don't think I'm an ASS (Aiming System Supporter). On the contrary, I think I am a pain in the ass to all of the ASSes out there. :cool:
I don't think you would call me an ASS if you knew about my DAM aiming "system." :mad:

I think my main role in the aiming threads is to help keep the ASSes honest (i.e., keep them from talking out of their asses). :eek:

Regards,
Dave (not an ASS) :cool:
 
I don't think you would call me an ASS if you knew about my DAM aiming "system." :mad:

I think my main role in the aiming threads is to help keep the ASSes honest (i.e., keep them from talking out of their asses). :eek:

Regards,
Dave (not an ASS) :cool:

Great post, brings a lot to the discussion. And Im sure it makes them want to tell you anything and everything they know :rolleyes:
 
Great post, brings a lot to the discussion. And Im sure it makes them want to tell you anything and everything they know :rolleyes:
You're probably right. I should start being a good boy again. I just have a lot of frustration built up over many years of having aiming system "discussions" on the forums.

I don't mean any disrespect to any any individuals with my joking. I hope they don't take it in a bad way. Even though I give ASSes a hard time occasionally, I still like most of the ASSes I've met. And I do see value in what they do ... the systems do seem to help many people.

Regards,
Dave
 
Spidey explains:

As I mentioned, you're turning the cue from the bridge. The pivot point is actually unknown. You're turning the cue around that arc. I don't think it's flatter or vice-versa--- nor does it have to be. You turn the cue however it needs to be turned based on the distance of the OB.

To me, I can't see how that's feel unless someone has the absolute worst depth perception known to mankind. You turn to the OB from an offset position. You don't rotate to the center of the CB from an offset position (with no bearing on the OB). If you did that, you'd have to get lucky to make the ball.

I think the breakdown for everyone here (the science guys as you're branded) is that your bridge is not a nail through the cue. The cue never rotates from the bridge (a true circle rotation). Unless your hand is made of wood or plastic or a metal hook-- it's dynamic. You can "turn" (I HATE THE WORD PIVOT--- That's what's confusing everyone, I think) the cue to a lot of arcs from a fixed bridge point. Your bridgehand spot must be accurate - or you're forced to move. That's on the shooter to develop that--- it's not a limitation of the system -- it's simple geometry.

Not to piss in the punch, but once your bridgehand spot placement is developed...you never even need to pivot. That's why Stan and some others say the pivot is "over-rated." It's simply a means to an end--- and once you master the means, you just skip to the end. So, that shot circle diagram is something I put together to help people master the means.

Take it as insult or frank advice, but you're not attracting players to CTE with this gibberish. I can't imagine why anybody who can read and reason would want to know more after reading it.

pj
chgo
 
Dr Dave i think theres alot of good people on this forum that are very helpful.
And after reading some post on this cte stuff it seems people know stuff about cte and dont care to help but like to lead you along .
I think if you no something about something and you dont want to help
dont post at all.You would get rid of alot of bs from people.
If i could i would go see Stan and learn the system correctly but i cant do to other reasons.If you ever go see Stan to get lessons on cte i would pay for half your lesson maybe all but you have to clue me in on the secret so i dont have to read anymore cte post on this forum.......

Dr. Dave is a Colorado State Ph.D. Why on earth would you need to pay for half his lesson???? He doesn't WANT a lesson, or he would have taken one already. Just because I don't type out an encyclopedia on here on certain topics doesn't make it bullsh1t. Shit, I give way more than I take on this forum, for sure. I guess there are people on here who feel they are entitled to info and those who feel they aren't and make an effort to acquire it. This isn't pool welfare, 8pack.
 
I did not notice this marathon post, when I responded to Saw's thread on "Where are all the Pro's..." (post # 13)

So I shall just post a link to irriitate the ASS people (most of whom are pretty good guy's....just somewhat mis-guided, IMO )

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2020399&postcount=13

Dick:

First off, let me begin by saying I respect your game and you as a player. However, this ASS stuff is plain outright retarded. Every single player who achieves a certain level aims using some kind of system. Now, maybe you're against certain systems that are outlined on this site and that's fine. I know you're a self-described "feel" player; however, as a feel player, you can't possibly say you don't use a "San Jose Dick" system of some sort.

Regardless if you're a feel player or not, I'd be surprised if you finalized your aiming line completely randomly and different on each and every shot. Even the very, very best players in the world have a systematic way making shots--- even if it's not CTE, 90-90, fractions, or whatever the named systems are. If you didn't, you wouldn't have a well-defined pre-shot routine (which I'm sure you do).

Even guys who see a spot on a ball and just hit that spot--- they go about doing so the same way every time. That's a system.

As a matter of fact, every single pool player on this site who has any semblance of speed to their game is an "ASS" whether they know it or not - believe it. I'm 100% an ASS. Being congnizant of being an "ASS" is how you get to the next level, regardless of your speed.

Dave
 
I dont think they are "leading him along". I think they are torn between honoring the promise they made to the person that taught them to not post it online, but still not wanting to see the system misrepresented.

Not sure who you are Woody, but you're one of the few paying attention - that's for sure :)
 
You're probably right. I should start being a good boy again. I just have a lot of frustration built up over many years of having aiming system "discussions" on the forums.

I don't mean any disrespect to any any individuals with my joking. I hope they don't take it in a bad way. Even though I give ASSes a hard time occasionally, I still like most of the ASSes I've met. And I do see value in what they do ... the systems do seem to help many people.

Regards,
Dave

Read my post above. That's why you're not getting any better as a pool player. You have to be an ASS of SOME kind to improve. ASSes analyze their game and find ways of reducing variation by doing the same thing over and over. Regardless of how you pocket a ball, even feel players at the highest level are ASSes unless their idiot savant pool players.
 
Take it as insult or frank advice, but you're not attracting players to CTE with this gibberish. I can't imagine why anybody who can read and reason would want to know more after reading it.

pj
chgo

There's no gibberish about it. As a matter of fact, and I do mean FACT--- it's the best information in this entire thread.

Listen, internet pool expert.... if you and I were at a major pool gathering (DCC, SBE, WHEREVER) and we each setup a table offering aiming knowledge to players (of any skill level), people would be standing on your table in order to look over the crowd onto my table. So take my advice, stand on chair and learn something.
 
Spidey to Dr. Dave:
That's why you're not getting any better as a pool player.

More unfounded insults aren't a good idea - they can only make people wonder why you need to resort to them.

pj
chgo
 
More unfounded insults aren't a good idea - they can only make people wonder why you need to resort to them.

pj
chgo

Lay off the crack-- you started with your condescending post above. In your weird world-- you're a saint and everyone else is a dick. I'm just one guy on here who isn't intimidated with your condescending, intimidating talk.

"UNFOUNDED"

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!! Pleeeaaaaase

I wasn't insulting him - I was just saying that's why he's not getting any better. He should reduce variation and systemize his game more.
 
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I wasn't insulting him - I was just saying that's why he's not getting any better. He should reduce variation and systemize his game more.

You obviously have no way of knowing how well he plays, whether or not he's improving, or what he needs to do to improve. Those backhanded insults and this lame obfuscation are just more examples of your "principles". I wonder if the system instructors whose names you toss around like having you as their champion.

pj
chgo
 
You obviously have no way of knowing how well he plays, whether or not he's improving, or what he needs to do to improve. Those backhanded insults and this lame obfuscation are just more examples of your "principles". I wonder if the system instructors whose names you toss around like having you as their champion.

pj
chgo

I'm my own champion. I can see how he plays without him pulling the trigger. I wasn't insulting anyone--- just saying you should play decent before instructing. Telling him why he's not improving isn't an insult - it's free help.

I don't toss anyone's names around. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to kiss ass. Of the 20k or so azb members, you're the last guy I care to impress.

You're the meanest, nastiest, condescending, guy on this entire forum. No one has a worse demeanor than you on here.

This is a PJ/Dave back and forth thing now so I'm gonna drop outta this thread. I doubt anyone thinks less of me for calling you on your horseshit and standing up to your pissy posts. Have fun, keyboard champion.
 
Dick:

First off, let me begin by saying I respect your game and you as a player. However, this ASS stuff is plain outright retarded. Every single player who achieves a certain level aims using some kind of system. Now, maybe you're against certain systems that are outlined on this site and that's fine. I know you're a self-described "feel" player; however, as a feel player, you can't possibly say you don't use a "San Jose Dick" system of some sort.

Regardless if you're a feel player or not, I'd be surprised if you finalized your aiming line completely randomly and different on each and every shot. Even the very, very best players in the world have a systematic way making shots--- even if it's not CTE, 90-90, fractions, or whatever the named systems are. If you didn't, you wouldn't have a well-defined pre-shot routine (which I'm sure you do)

Even guys who see a spot on a ball and just hit that spot--- they go about doing so the same way every time. That's a system.

As a matter of fact, every single pool player on this site who has any semblance of speed to their game is an "ASS" whether they know it or not - believe it. I'm 100% an ASS. Being congnizant of being an "ASS" is how you get to the next level, regardless of your speed.

Dave

Spidey,

I appreciate your semi-compliments, but I have to tell you something.

I am very conscious of my stance, bridge, and pre-shot routine. Beyond that, I am not aware of using ANY aiming tricks, CTE, BHE, or ghost balls, or anything of that nature.

I (nor very few of my peer's) ever even HEARD of all that stuff 'til I joined AZB, a few years ago.
Allowing for "squirt and swerve", were all I needed to know. And it came to me, only after many times, of paying dearly...by NOT allowing for it.

Maybe I would have been a better player if I had known all those things... but drills and practice were completely foreign to me.
I know for a fact that,.. of all my time spent playing pool, less than .001% of it, was spent practicing.
If I wasn't in action, I didn't screw my stick together.

I am not bragging, maybe I am a savant, or something but almost all the players from my era, must have been savant's too, because we all thought practicing was for straight pool players, like Mosconi...not real gambler's.

Ronnie Allen and Richie Florence, (my two closest friends and rivals) were the same way, with regards to "practicing"...we considered it a boring waste of time. If we were not in action, we were chasing women or drinking.
And I think you have to admit....those two could play a little bit.

Our reasoning has always been...when you step up to the table, with the cash on the line, you had better know how to make the ball go in the pocket, or you are going to lose....It ain't rocket surgery.

Bottom line is...if you think I use anything but "pure feel"...I wish you would explain it to me. I promise to listen..:wink: (I am a confimed non ASS...:eek:)
 
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Spidey,

I appreciate your semi-compliments, but I have to tell you something.

I am very conscious of my stance, bridge, and pre-shot routine. Beyond that, I am not aware of using ANY aiming tricks, CTE, BHE, or ghost balls, or anything of that nature.

I (nor very few of my peer's) ever even HEARD of all that stuff 'til I joined AZB, a few years ago.
Allowing for "squirt and swerve", were all I needed to know. And it came to me, only after many times, of paying dearly...for NOT allowing for it.

Maybe I would have been a better player if I had known all those things... but drills and practice were completely foreign to me.
I know for a fact that,.. of all my time spent playing pool, less than .001% of it, was spent practicing.
If I wasn't in action, I didn't screw my stick together.

I am not bragging, maybe I am a savant, or something but almost all the players from my era, must have been savant's too, because we all thought practicing was for straight pool players, like Mosconi...not real gambler's.

Ronnie Allen and Richie Florence, (my two closest friends and rivals) were the same way, with regards to "practicing"...we considered it a boring waste of time. If we were not in action, we were chasing women or drinking.
And I think you have to admit....those two could play a little bit.

Our reasoning has always been...when you step up to the table, with the cash on the line, you had better know how to make the ball go in the pocket, or you are going to lose....It ain't rocket surgery.

Bottom line is...if you think I use anything but "pure feel"...I wish you would explain it to me. I promise to listen..:wink:

I wasn't really referring to the aiming systems discussed on az--- i was saying about shooting systematically... even if by feel... call it the same. Most people try to step into the shot the same way and fine-tune the same way...whether it be by feel or otherwise. That's what I was referring to. I've never seen you play, although I hear you're awesome. When you watch yourself on video, I'm sure each shot looks identical.
 
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Dr. Dave is a Colorado State Ph.D. Why on earth would you need to pay for half his lesson???? He doesn't WANT a lesson, or he would have taken one already. Just because I don't type out an encyclopedia on here on certain topics doesn't make it bullsh1t. Shit, I give way more than I take on this forum, for sure. I guess there are people on here who feel they are entitled to info and those who feel they aren't and make an effort to acquire it. This isn't pool welfare, 8pack.

What heck are you talking about i didnt even say your name in my post.
Pool welfare .,,thats pretty funny.By the way what i meant by bs was bad stuff.

Lesson of the day.
(never argue with an idiot they beat you with experience)
 
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