CTE User Stevie Moore on TAR now
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Why not title the thread
AIM BY FEEL user Darren Appleton on TAR now against Stevie Moore
Because neither I nor you know that Darren Appleton aims by feel. In England they teach various methods of aiming including Ghost Ball and Overlap methods.
Stevie has been used by me and others as the highest profile player we know of who says that he uses Center to Edge (Pro1) aiming.
Thus the title and the ensuing content of the thread. Had Stevie won then I am sure that that conversation would have gone in another direction. Do you disagree?
For the record, most people do not "aim by feel" they use some sort of reference OR learned using some sort of reference to build their "feel" on.
My guess is you haven't been around too long, not a big deal but...
I have a sneaky suspicion that SS is a tad better than an APA sl5
Just call it a hunch from being here as long as I have.
Is an APA 5 that bad? What would that be, a C+ or low B? I have no idea since there is no APA league near me, I play VNEA.
He's my GM/house pro and a good friend.
Rory's a BCA certified instructor, and we team-teach the foundations level courses here.
Well, as far as i and everyone else should be concerned, assume i suck, and need weight from everyone.
On the alphabet scale, i am a Z player.
Still...
My skill level should have no bearing on criticisms of CTE groupie-fests and their orgies that happen in every single CTE thread.
Like, if CTE works for you. That's great. If you want to learn CTE, that's also equally as wonderful.
But people need to just stop with the whole pumping themselves up crap that they do by starting new and improved CTE threads where they are equally as vague, and once again dangle the carrot stick in front of the donkeys, only to pull it away so the donkeys follow.
As soon as a CTE thread dies, in comes some new guy or some friend of a friend, asking a CTE question, and boom, it starts all over again.
Almost like it's rigged to have at the very minimum, ONE CTE thread that is active at any given time.
Give it the F up already.
It is truly nauseating how that pattern has repeated itself.
It could easily have been a thread about Stevie being on the stream, but NO. There HAAAAD to be something thrown in there about CTE, like that had some huge implication for what everyone was about to see.
Maybe if Stevie didn't miss it would have been a better promotion for that CTE tidbit of info, but seeing how Darren chopped him up, it just made that CTE info, that much more laughable.
I am a pathetic APA SL 5 (actually I am really a 4 that somehow got rated a 5) but I don't talk shit online.
I just wish I could find any method of aiming that helps me.
Of course maybe by the time I practiced my millionth ball I may feel some confidence. I am relatively new to pool, being in my 2nd year. I envy anyone that can make cuts consistently, and even more those that can make the cuts and position the cue ball afterwards.
That is big win for Rory.I haven't seen him play for 8-10 years,but he has all the tools.I hope he continues play well and gain confidence.
I actually share your sentiment :grin: These threads have just become down right awful. I hope to God that Stan is able to proceed with his video so those who want to learn the system can and then no one will have to read another CTE thread littered with insults......well wait, ya never no
You can direct your comments directly to me. I posted the title this was deliberately because I felt that it IS relevant to see how the only pro we know of who has stated he uses CTE shoots.
I saw that he was going to be on TAR so I titled it this way so all the CTE people who are interested in learning CTE can watch and learn anything they can be it positive or not.
It's like the endless jump cue debates. If people want to buy a jump cue and use it as a crutch without learning how to really use it then I want to play them all day every day.
If people want to learn CTE thinking it's a shortcut to superstardom then I want to play them all day every day.
However if people want to learn CTE as an alternative way to aim - knowing that they are still going to need to have all the other tools in the tool box then they are going to be dangerous players.
So feel free to jump my ass. Not literally SS - I don't like you in that way.
As for the spate of CTE threads - yeah they are ****ing annoying and if they didn't devolve into stupid ass arguments over whether CTE is even real or not with accusations of fraud then there would only need to be one where the people interested in learning it could figure the shit out amongst themselves without people stepping in ever two posts to call them idiots.
Actually, it's not really directed at you.
Sure you might have started the thread, but aside from the last part where i talk about Stevie, my rant is for every one of the groupies and secret society guys that tote this stuff around.
They all know who they are.
Secret CTE knowledge that the Pinoys knew, before they ever came here and ripped us a new ass!?!?!?!
What planet are these people from!?!?!?! THEY HAVE GOT TO BE HIGH!!
Soon, people are gonna start to question people on if they know or use CTE simply because they got down, and were loosening their elbow a little going a little left and right before they took the shot, and BOOM
"Dude, was that a pivot!?!?!"
"Um, no. My elbow was stiff so i was loosening it up"
"YO GUYS, HE KNOWS CTE AND HE'S NOT TELLING ANYONE!!"
Same thing with you tube videos.
"That was CLEARLY a pivot"
"What are you talking about, no it wasn't"
"Yes it was, i'm telling you, he is using CTE."
Sorry, but some of the CTE-ers are smoking CRACK!
Sure you might have started the thread, but aside from the last part where i talk about Stevie, my rant is for every one of the groupies and secret society guys that tote this stuff around.
They all know who they are.
Secret CTE knowledge that the Pinoys knew, before they ever came here and ripped us a new ass!?!?!?!
What planet are these people from!?!?!?! THEY HAVE GOT TO BE HIGH!!
Soon, people are gonna start to question people on if they know or use CTE simply because they got down, and were loosening their elbow a little going a little left and right before they took the shot, and BOOM
"Dude, was that a pivot!?!?!"
"Um, no. My elbow was stiff so i was loosening it up"
"YO GUYS, HE KNOWS CTE AND HE'S NOT TELLING ANYONE!!"
Same thing with you tube videos.
"That was CLEARLY a pivot"
"What are you talking about, no it wasn't"
"Yes it was, i'm telling you, he is using CTE."
Sorry, but some of the CTE-ers are smoking CRACK!
yeah that's something I've never gotten...
I want to know, even if someone is pivoting, how do you tell the difference between a CTE pivot and a BHE pivot.
I know certain pros who use BHE, because they've TOLD ME they do, and I've heard people say that they use CTE because they saw them pivot, when I know that they use BHE because they've TOLD me they do...so it's likely exactly what they say and they pivot because they use BHE.
PEople need to stop thinking that great players are hiding stuff from them. They PLAY great, mostly because of a combination of dedication and talent, in THAT order.
You want to play as great as you can. DEDICATE yourself. Use focused practice and drills. that's how my bro got as good as he did as fast as he did.
He was an apa9 within two years of picking up a cue. He got there by being dedicated to the game and not having bad habits.
I taught him fundies and gave him drills to practice and he dedicated himself to the game. so if you want to get the best you can be. use focused practice, practicing the fundamentals and focusing on stroke and dedicate yourself regardless of what systems you use or this pro or that pro uses. If you care too much about being like this pro or that pro, the best you will ever be is close to as good as this pro or that pro. No one ever got to be the best by emulating someone else, they only got to be close to as good as that person.
Plus, it didn't hurt that he had talent (probably, although I am one hell of an instructor...j.k.)
Jaden
I want to know, even if someone is pivoting, how do you tell the difference between a CTE pivot and a BHE pivot.
I know certain pros who use BHE, because they've TOLD ME they do, and I've heard people say that they use CTE because they saw them pivot, when I know that they use BHE because they've TOLD me they do...so it's likely exactly what they say and they pivot because they use BHE.
PEople need to stop thinking that great players are hiding stuff from them. They PLAY great, mostly because of a combination of dedication and talent, in THAT order.
You want to play as great as you can. DEDICATE yourself. Use focused practice and drills. that's how my bro got as good as he did as fast as he did.
He was an apa9 within two years of picking up a cue. He got there by being dedicated to the game and not having bad habits.
I taught him fundies and gave him drills to practice and he dedicated himself to the game. so if you want to get the best you can be. use focused practice, practicing the fundamentals and focusing on stroke and dedicate yourself regardless of what systems you use or this pro or that pro uses. If you care too much about being like this pro or that pro, the best you will ever be is close to as good as this pro or that pro. No one ever got to be the best by emulating someone else, they only got to be close to as good as that person.
Plus, it didn't hurt that he had talent (probably, although I am one hell of an instructor...j.k.)
Jaden
I would say if your pivoting to center q-ball as shane did in earlier video, your not doing it because of BHE.. Not saying he used CTE, just that he pivoted to center.
Here we go. LOL.
And what if he was just loosening up his elbow?
No one is gonna be able to move in any direction but back and forth without CTE-ers going bananas thinking "OMG, HE JUST PIVOTED!!!!!!!!" and wetting themselves.
I know i use BHE, and if i had one person come up to me and ask me if i was using CTE, and id probably laugh in their face.
It's like grasping at straws.
Anything to reinforce the power of and to justify using CTE.
:barf:
And what if he was just loosening up his elbow?
No one is gonna be able to move in any direction but back and forth without CTE-ers going bananas thinking "OMG, HE JUST PIVOTED!!!!!!!!" and wetting themselves.
I know i use BHE, and if i had one person come up to me and ask me if i was using CTE, and id probably laugh in their face.
It's like grasping at straws.
Anything to reinforce the power of and to justify using CTE.
:barf: