CTE Videos Of The Day - #22, #23, #24

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Here's an analysis by Stan of Efren Reyes and Bustamante. You're welcome to give your own analysis of both of these great players.


CTE Aiming Ultimate Secrets Part 5: - Efren Reyes (41)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwJr7rFUXoo&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=42&t=754s

Bustamante Technique: Basic System Analysis (57)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6tXGMBC0HI&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=58&t=469s

Bustamante - Part 2: Lessons Learned (56)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6s6-hxlpmg&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=57&t=521s
 
99% of players sweep their cue onto the shot line. With ghostball, fractions, contact points, etc..., the shot line is visualized from a standing position, then the player simply brings the cue in, lining it up in accordance with the visualized shot line or distant target. The cue is typically held to the side of the body while getting the shot line, so naturally it has to "sweep" onto that line, regardless of aiming method.

I have seen some players come straight down with their cue instead of bringing it in from the side, but it's not common. These players are typically beginners or very weak players. Sometimes it looks like they are using manual CTE or Shishkabob, coming straight down with the cue to ensure they are exactly 1/2 a tip inside or outside the perception or reference line. Stan shows this method in one of his videos, but he admits it is a very awkward way to come into the shot, and a sweeping motion is more natural.

It's just wrong to assume that a sweeping motion means a player is lining up at an offset, considering the fact that a sweeping motion is the natural movement that almost every player uses, including millions of "nosers", both pro and amateur level players.
 
I'm starting to see a more clear picture regarding what goes on here every day since I started posting daily videos done by Stan.

There are a couple of threads turned into attacking flame wars that rise to the top and bury the videos so members or outside non-members get lost in the mayhem of the negative waring.

Nothing gets the biggest number of hits and views than an attacking flame war whether it's in the aiming forum, main forum, or NPR.

The FAB5 have it down pat, then blame it on someone else. Smooth...real smooth.
 
BC21 said:
99% of players sweep their cue onto the shot line. With ghostball, fractions, contact points, etc..., the shot line is visualized from a standing position, then the player simply brings the cue in, lining it up in accordance with the visualized shot line or distant target. The cue is typically held to the side of the body while getting the shot line, so naturally it has to "sweep" onto that line, regardless of aiming method.

I have seen some players come straight down with their cue instead of bringing it in from the side, but it's not common. These players are typically beginners or very weak players. Sometimes it looks like they are using manual CTE or Shishkabob, coming straight down with the cue to ensure they are exactly 1/2 a tip inside or outside the perception or reference line. Stan shows this method in one of his videos, but he admits it is a very awkward way to come into the shot, and a sweeping motion is more natural.

It's just wrong to assume that a sweeping motion means a player is lining up at an offset, considering the fact that a sweeping motion is the natural movement that almost every player uses, including millions of "nosers", both pro and amateur level players.
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So you're saying a number of players (whatever level other than pro) don't take their stance and setup first and then come down from above to CCB or below to CCB as well as offset for English or parallel shifting right or left for spin? Most amateurs do NOT pivot for their spin.

It's ALL a sweep? I don't think so. Sounds like you don't pay attention or not very observant. Or just giving another backhand slap at the videos.

Lets take poolology or equal and opposite contact points. Player identifies the fraction or contact point with either CCB or equal and opposite contact points. Adjusts his feet, body, eyes and head to those two matching spots to get the cue and tip into position for the shot line and target impact...why in the hell would they sweep into it now since everything is set visually and bodily instead of coming straight down so they don't lose their perspective and focus? They DON'T! They come straight down. I know because I used to do it that way.
 
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Still knocking 'em off the right field wall for triples. WTG!

SpiderWebComm said:
Here's an analysis by Stan of Efren Reyes and Bustamante. You're welcome to give your own analysis of both of these great players.
CTE Aiming Ultimate Secrets Part 5: - Efren Reyes (41)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwJr7rFUXoo&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=42&t=754s
Bustamante Technique: Basic System Analysis (57)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6tXGMBC0HI&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=58&t=469s
Bustamante - Part 2: Lessons Learned (56)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6s6-hxlpmg&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=57&t=521s
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Good postings SpiderMan…!!!:thumbup2::thumbup2:
Being aware of these things has certainly helped me in my study of the CTE system for aiming pool shots.
For me, being a slow learner and also having to undo 60 years of playing the wrong way,...it has been quite a struggle.
The difference between myself and the members of the "Posse"...is I know I am a Class B player. However I am hard working to fix that. And I will... someday in the near future.
The members of the "Posse" DON'T KNOW they're class B players and will NOT do anything to fix that...other than to keep on hitting balls the (wrong) same old way they've always done while trashing the CTE concepts. (due to stubbornness, bigotry, ego, desire to be "liked" by others in the posse... you name it). Also scientists have been brainwashed by their formal schooling to believe there is no higher station in life than that of a scientist. Another reason I do not get along with them at all.
Especially those who write those damn fool books......I've watched some quietly and have had to really exercise discipline to keep from shouting "better write yourself another book, daddy, that one ain't working".:rotflmao1:
Regards,
P.L.
 
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So you're saying a number of players (whatever level other than pro) don't take their stance and setup first and then come down from above to CCB or below to CCB as well as offset for English or parallel shifting right or left for spin? Most amateurs do NOT pivot for their spin.

It's ALL a sweep? I don't think so. Sounds like you don't pay attention or not very observant. Or just giving another backhand slap at the videos.

Lets take poolology or equal and opposite contact points. Player identifies the fraction or contact point with either CCB or equal and opposite contact points. Adjusts his feet, body, eyes and head to those two matching spots to get the cue and tip into position for the shot line and target impact...why in the hell would they sweep into it now since everything is set visually and bodily instead of coming straight down so they don't lose their perspective and focus? They DON'T! They come straight down. I know because I used to do it that way.
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In bold, no. Most every player holds their cue off to the side during the psr, while looking at the shot, while visualizing the target or line or perception or whatever. Then they step into the alignment and bring their cue in from which ever side of their body they had it on. For right handed players that's usually the left side, and for lefties it's typically the right side. It's rare to see someone bring it straight down from the center of their face, unless they're struggling to learn how aim. It's just awkward and unnatural. A beginner's way to make sure everything is lined up because they haven't developed a good feel for just knowing where their grip hand is and where their bridge hand needs to be in order to have the cue aligned properly.

And actually, most amateurs DO pivot for spin using back hand english. It's the easiest method to learn, which is why they do it. Do you ever go anywhere and actually watch people play pool? Lol
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I'm starting to see a more clear picture regarding what goes on here every day since I started posting daily videos done by Stan.

There are a couple of threads turned into attacking flame wars that rise to the top and bury the videos so members or outside non-members get lost in the mayhem of the negative waring.

Nothing gets the biggest number of hits and views than an attacking flame war whether it's in the aiming forum, main forum, or NPR.

The FAB5 have it down pat, then blame it on someone else. Smooth...real smooth.
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There should be no flame wars. But readers know where the flames start.

With this thread, for example, you wrote... "You're welcome to give your own analysis of both of these great players."

What you really meant is....You're welcome to agree with Stan, because his opinion is all that matters.

And I should've known that before pointing out that most everyone else in the pool world actually considers bringing the cue in from one side or the other the natural movement. It has zero to do with offset visuals or secretly disguised air pivots.
 
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Low500, I know you have me on ignore but since you constantly enjoy throwing little remarks out here concerning me personally, I figure you'll see this post one way or another.

There's no way your a B player. Maybe mid level C at best. So if you were really in my local poolhall that one evening, fly back here to WV anytime you want and prove me wrong. I'll show you the difference between a C player and an A player. Lol

:thumbup:
 
BC21 said:
In bold, no. Most every player holds their cue off to the side during the psr, while looking at the shot, while visualizing the target or line or perception or whatever. Then they step into the alignment and bring their cue in from which ever side of their body they had it on. For right handed players that's usually the left side, and for lefties it's typically the right side. It's rare to see someone bring it straight down from the center of their face, unless they're struggling to learn how aim. It's just awkward and unnatural. A beginner's way to make sure everything is lined up because they haven't developed a good feel for just knowing where their grip hand is and where their bridge hand needs to be in order to have the cue aligned properly.

I didn't buy your book but somebody sent it to me to read and study a while back. I may not have remembered it if there, but how did you explain taking the stance, aligning the two balls, where the cue should be and how to get down into the perfect shot line to deliver the stroke once the CB was linked to the fraction? Did it include a sweep from one side or another?


And actually, most amateurs DO pivot for spin using back hand english.

Oh really? We have amateurs and scientists here who only use parallel English with a hand/cue shift right or left from center ball. Then all the adjustments for squirt, swerve, CIT, SIT, Coriolis force, wind from a fan, etc. are then factored in.

It's the easiest method to learn, which is why they do it. Do you ever go anywhere and actually watch people play pool? Lol
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As much as you have if not more. And also have spent FAR more time with a world champion professional pool player and world class professional instructor and great player winner of pro tournaments. How about you? Who influenced your knowledge and perspective?
 
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I didn't buy your book but somebody sent it to me to read and study a while back. I may not have remembered it if there, but how did you explain taking the stance, aligning the two balls, where the cue should be and how to get down into the perfect shot line to deliver the stroke once the CB was linked to the fraction? Did it include a sweep from one side or another?


.....and also have spent FAR more time with a world champion professional pool player and world class professional instructor and great player winner of pro tournaments. How about you? Who influenced your knowledge and perspective?
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In the book I don't describe how to get the cue onto the shot line. I don't think pool players are idiots that need to be told exactly how to do something that is quite obvious.

It's called proprioception -- the ability to know where/how your body is positioned without actually looking at every individual part. Most players can grab a cue stick, look at the cb, look at a distance target, then bring the cue onto that line without using some dorky/unnatural method that involves holding it directly in front of their face on the exact trajectory needed to land it on the line. Most of us hold the cue to the side for an unobstructed view of the line we're visualizing.

My influence is based on common sense and 35+ years of observation, not one person's personal belief or opinion.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
BACK TO THE TOP:

Here's an analysis by Stan of Efren Reyes and Bustamante. You're welcome to give your own analysis of both of these great players.


CTE Aiming Ultimate Secrets Part 5: - Efren Reyes (41)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwJr...ndex=42&t=754s

Bustamante Technique: Basic System Analysis (57)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6tX...ndex=58&t=469s

Bustamante - Part 2: Lessons Learned (56)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6s6...ndex=57&t=521s
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Good idea....back to the top.

Please disregard my comments, as they were made thinking I was actually "welcome" to give my own analysis, as stated in bold.
 
BC21 said:
In the book I don't describe how to get the cue onto the shot line. I don't think pool players are idiots that need to be told exactly how to do something that is quite obvious.

Quite obvious? You don't know what level of player is on the other side of the book. None at all. Since you didn't address it in the book, go ahead and do it right here. Stan has well over 100 videos for free on youtube. How about you pony up and contribute some freebie information on how the player gets into position once the visuals are located and fixed so as not to lose it while getting down or down.

It's called proprioception -- the ability to know where/how your body is positioned without actually looking at every individual part.

That's not necessary or what someone should be doing.

Most players can grab a cue stick, look at the cb, look at a distance target, then bring the cue onto that line without using some dorky/unnatural method that involves holding it directly in front of their face on the exact trajectory needed to land it on the line.

This is getting completely distorted. That's not what was meant.


Most of us hold the cue to the side for an unobstructed view of the line we're visualizing.

Yes, but there are different ways to hold the cue off to the side and come into it with the eyes, body, and cue.

My influence is based on common sense and 35+ years of observation, not one person's personal belief or opinion.
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So in other words, you've become an expert all on your own and totally disregard someone who has more going for them as professional instructors and/or professional playing.

Sounds like a self designated know it all.



 
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