CTE: Visuals determine the shot solution

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mohrt

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Regarding the question: how can a handful of visuals cover all ranges of shots? The pundents will tell you there are gaps, and you must be adjusting something to make the system work. This is far from reality.

What is important to realize, CTE PRO ONE is a visual system. It is not based on discreet angles. The video below is a prime example of how a single visual/pivot covers two completely different shots.

The first shot is straight-in. I'm using a "Thick A" with right pivot (or outside.) The shot goes straight in. Then I setup a shot where the CB/OB alignment is straight into the end rail, and I execute the exact same visual: "Thick A" with right pivot. This should result in the OB going straight into the end rail, correct? WRONG! It is the solution to the two-rail bank. I did nothing different here, but the outcome is different from a pencil and protractor point-of-view.

The details of why and how this works are directly related to the visuals for any given CB/OB/Pocket relationship. Pool is a game of optical illusions, and CTE embraces these illusions and makes them powerful weapons for pocketing balls. This is just a small sample of the power of this system. If you execute your visuals and pivot perfectly, the solution is the heart of a given pocket. In my own tests I can take any CB/OB relationship on a table, mark them with paper reinforcers for resetting, then start moving through the visuals and pivots to find a solution to every pocket on the table. Note there are exceptions, some relations provide no possible solution to every pocket.

[edit] I removed the video, there was an editing mistake... will redo later.
 
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mohrt said:
Regarding the question: how can a handful of visuals cover all ranges of shots? The pundents will tell you there are gaps, and you must be adjusting something to make the system work. This is far from reality.

What is important to realize, CTE PRO ONE is a visual system. It is not based on discreet angles. The video below is a prime example of how a single visual/pivot covers two completely different shots.

The first shot is straight-in. I'm using a "Thick A" with right pivot (or outside.) The shot goes straight in. Then I setup a shot where the CB/OB alignment is straight into the end rail, and I execute the exact same visual: "Thick A" with right pivot. This should result in the OB going straight into the end rail, correct? WRONG! It is the solution to the two-rail bank. I did nothing different here, but the outcome is different from a pencil and protractor point-of-view.

The details of why and how this works are directly related to the visuals for any given CB/OB/Pocket relationship. Pool is a game of optical illusions, and CTE embraces these illusions and makes them powerful weapons for pocketing balls. This is just a small sample of the power of this system. If you execute your visuals and pivot perfectly, the solution is the heart of a given pocket. In my own tests I can take any CB/OB relationship on a table, mark them with paper reinforcers for resetting, then start moving through the visuals and pivots to find a solution to every pocket on the table. Note there are exceptions, some relations provide no possible solution to every pocket.

[edit] I removed the video, there was an editing mistake... will redo later.
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There are gaps,why do think there,s so much trouble here.
Cte, pro1 wasnt something that was sitting some where and some one found it and said this is it the holy grail,it was a ideal from a person.
This ideal has created such a stir that people are believing the answer to there game has been answered.In truth the pivot system can become a very great tool towards your game,maybe people should start working on facts ,then you will see more improvement and less Questions,(what am i doing wrong gets old)
Sorry for being negative here and I am very interested in Stans new dvd,
Maybe it will shed more light on what he's put so much time into.
To much confusion going on .



This is just my opinion so you can take it as such.

Anthony
 
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It doesn't matter to me about the whole gap/no gap argument. If there are gaps, I assure you any subtle adjustments are much easier with Pro One.
 
There are no gaps and no adjustments.

Stan challenged people to name a shot that doesn't go with Pro One so name one.

As for why people have trouble, likely because they have not put in enough time or there is a stroke issue.

I use it 100% now and when I miss it isn't because of Pro One.

Gerry
 
BeiberLvr said:
It doesn't matter to me about the whole gap/no gap argument. If there are gaps, I assure you any subtle adjustments are much easier with Pro One.
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I think the system's (pro 1 /cte )are great for alinement,just as long as you don,t do everything to the t and fire.You need take into consideration making adjustment and let feel make it rite for you.
 
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Gerry Williams said:
There are no gaps and no adjustments.

Stan challenged people to name a shot that doesn't go with Pro One so name one.

As for why people have trouble, likely because they have not put in enough time or there is a stroke issue.

I use it 100% now and when I miss it isn't because of Pro One.

Gerry
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If we where to have a robot do it or something that can reproduce the same movements and be exact,you will finally know the truth.When the human mind is involved things are happening that we are unaware of.
Not sure why you miss Gerry but i wouldnt be in hurry to blame yourself.:smile:
 
8pack said:
I think the system's (pro 1 /cte )are great for alinement,just as long as you don,t do everything to the t and fire.You need take into consideration making adjustment and let feel make it rite for you.
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This is what's great about Pro One... a person admits they dont know how to use the system without relying on feel, also says it is great for their alignment. It can even benefit those that can't fully implement the system! Gets them closer.
 
JMW said:
This is what's great about Pro One... a person admits they dont know how to use the system without relying on feel, also says it is great for their alignment. It can even benefit those that can't fully implement the system! Gets them closer.
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I agree and higher level players can really take advantage of it.
 
leafs07 said:
:) Ok before I jump in here, I want to be clear on all the gaps you are speaking about, is this the only gap, or is there more. I do not want to discuss this and then in the middle of the discussion we get derailed because you drop in something else. This is something I have seen many times on here when the going gets a little warm and nothing gets solved :smile:
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Is there a gap from the edge of the OB to "A"; "A" to "B"; "B" to "C"; "C" to "1/8" and "1/8" to other edge? There is/are by geometry but it doesn't matter?
 
leafs07 said:
:) Ok before I jump in here, I want to be clear on all the gaps you are speaking about, is this the only gap, or is there more. I do not want to discuss this and then in the middle of the discussion we get derailed because you drop in something else into the discussion. This is something I have seen many times on here when the going gets a little warm :smile:
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There is more than just 1 gap.
Not trying to derail this thread,Ive done my home work.
Hopefully a better understanding surfaces from every ones input.

Anthony
 
The main problem I'm having with the system right now is I don't understand the relevance of the CB edge to aim point A, B, or C. What is it's purpose because you can make the shots with CB center to OB edge. That line from my understanding determines your body and bridge alignment so what's the other line for? I have even marked them out on my table with no light going off except it seems after the pivot you cue is parallel to that line. To me that is a gap.

Sent from my XT901 using Tapatalk 2
 
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opiesbro said:
The main problem I'm having with the system right now is I don't understand the relevance of the CB edge to aim point A, B, or C. What is it's purpose because you can make the shots with CB center to OB edge. That line from my understanding determines your body and bridge alignment so what's the other line for? I have even marked them out on my table with no light going off except it seems after the pivot you cue is parallel to that line. To me that is a gap.

Sent from my XT901 using Tapatalk 2
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They make sure you are on the correct CTEL.
 
8pack said:
There are gaps,why do think there,s so much trouble here.
Cte, pro1 wasnt something that was sitting some where and some one found it and said this is it the holy grail,it was a ideal from a person.
This ideal has created such a stir that people are believing the answer to there game has been answered.In truth the pivot system can become a very great tool towards your game,maybe people should start working on facts ,then you will see more improvement and less Questions,(what am i doing wrong gets old)
Sorry for being negative here and I am very interested in Stans new dvd,
Maybe it will shed more light on what he's put so much time into.
To much confusion going on .



This is just my opinion so you can take it as such.

Anthony
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Ok, 7 or 8 people posting no gaps, but you believe there are gaps. Prove the gaps.
 
opiesbro said:
The main problem I'm having with the system right now is I don't understand the relevance of the CB edge to aim point A, B, or C. What is it's purpose because you can make the shots with CB center to OB edge. That line from my understanding determines your body and bridge alignment so what's the other line for? I have even marked them out on my table with no light going off except it seems after the pivot you cue is parallel to that line. To me that is a gap.

Sent from my XT901 using Tapatalk 2
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Because there are 3 visuals where you can perceive CBE to OBE those being dead straight, A or C with the third being B. Without any pivot, those essentially give you straight in, 1/4 and 1/2 ball shots. Combining those visuals with the correct pivot fills in the gaps. A is a cut to the left, C is a cut to the right. Have you purchased and watched Stan's DVD?
 
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