Cte

So you've done this shot...............

How bout a real challenge like this one where you carom the 1 off the 4 into the 5 and the 1 goes in the side. Yepper I've done this shot.

BTW, all these shots are on a 9 ft table, you know where you have to reach at times and the ball layouts are such that you can not use any like what would be considered a normal stance. You know, like the cue behind the back shot.

Should be a snap for CTE right?


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These CTE/Pro One threads have been making me a little more unkind than I like to be and I want to say some unkind things about this shot you've depicted but instead I will just ask, "Why in the world would you want to carom the one off of the five ball into the side pocket?"

JoeyA
 
I'd enjoy hearing a new explanation about how x-angle systems work without feel. Got one?

LOL I know how they work, but feel is too vague of a description for me. You'd enjoy a new explanation? We're all here for your entertainment, I see. No, take two green pills and one red pill... are you color blind?

If you don't know what feel is, why are you arguing against it?

pj
chgo

NONSENSE. I am debating your poor choice of words. Too disrespectful to the creators and users. No that you care, but I do. And I'm not the only one. Your hurried, limited evaluation doesn't begin to touch on the real adjustments in the system. This is a callous, non-technical definition that has ulterior motives.

"If you don't know what feel is...", nice. Is this like a subliminal thing? Everything you post is meant to be an allusion to your superiority. LOL Well, Professor, unless you can come up with something better to open a dialogue besides "feel", my answer is, "That ain't it! But thanks for playing. We've got a few nice parting gifts backstage for ya'." [Applause] :wave2:

Best,
Mike
 
Here are two banks. Explain in CTE terms how to make em.

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Duckie,

I have used ghost ball aiming for years, but have not been too good with it. I compare it to other aiming systems as a standard or when I am checking out the other systems' alignments.

I don't think that because we are trying to figure out Cte's methodology, you should feel we are knocking ghost ball. I'm not. I don't knock any aiming system. They all have something to offer.

To answer your question without being combative, the two rail bank into the side pocket was shown to me by Stan, himself. You can change the pivot direction or reference point to open up the angle so it gets past the corner pocket. The second shot I would use reference point C or 90/reverse 90 aiming. Right english would help.


I could also make either shot with ghost ball or a stick aiming method using contact points. They all work. To each his own poison. In the past I probaly would have tried ghost ball. I just wasn't too good with it. :(

Best,
Mike
 
I'd like to know what aiming by "using visuals" means exactly. Isn't that what we mean by "feel"?

I can only give you my opininon what "using visuals" means to me. It should not be lumped in with "feel". The way you set up your visuals will determine if you are going to be on the correct line to pocket the ball or not.

It is a separate physical process that if done correctly, will strengthen your game in quick succession. Using the feedback from this visual process will allow your brain to go to "feel" or any aiming system you'd like to use.

Your stroke is not "feel". You can use "feel" to control it, but it is a separate, definable part of your shotmaking. Cte uses visual information, not "feel". IMO.

Best,
Mike
 
Your hurried, limited evaluation doesn't begin to touch on the real adjustments in the system.
We've had lots of time to hear a "real" evaluation (you know, one that isn't a content-free ad). Suppose you point it out to me.

This is a callous, non-technical definition that has ulterior motives.
LOL. "Ulterior motives"? Such as?

Here's your chance to counter my "callous, non-technical definition" with a non-callous technical explanation of how "the visuals" are used to aim. It is possible, isn't it?

...unless you can come up with something better to open a dialogue besides "feel", my answer is, "That ain't it!"
There are lots more readers here than me - lots more readers than posters, for that matter. And what they're all seeing is that whenever serious questions are asked about these systems everybody who's supposed to know something suddenly becomes too "offended" to answer.

Keep up the good work.

pj
chgo
 
I'd enjoy hearing a new explanation about how x-angle systems work without feel. Got one?


If you don't know what feel is, why are you arguing against it?

pj
chgo

This guy is unreal! I know its about the fifteenth time i have said this after reading one of his posts, but is it possible this guy can make himself look like more of an idiot than he has already made himself look like, seriously? :banghead:

Hey Patrick Johnson if you don't know cte/pro1, why are you arguing against it?
 
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We've had lots of time to hear a "real" evaluation (you know, one that isn't a content-free ad). Suppose you point it out to me.


LOL. "Ulterior motives"? Such as?

Here's your chance to counter my "callous, non-technical definition" with a non-callous technical explanation of how "the visuals" are used to aim. It is possible, isn't it?


There are lots more readers here than me - lots more readers than posters, for that matter. And what they're all seeing is that whenever serious questions are asked about these systems everybody who's supposed to know something suddenly becomes too "offended" to answer.

Keep up the good work.

pj
chgo

LOL You mean there are other people reading this sh...debate? Keep pushing the intelligence button and now it's the out of control button. You'd make some lucky guy a wonderful ex-wife. Did you filter the gist out of my last post or are you still stuck on "feel"?

Since there are allegedly other viewers reading this NONSENSE, I would like to hear if they "feel" that the alignment adjustments in pivot systems are solely "feel". I don't think so. That's too broad stroke an analogy for me.

Cte uses a distinct set of visual cues to set up the proper alignment for each shot. This is a definite physical process and produces the answer for each shot angle. Calling it "feel" is a poor substitute for a highly developed method we have developed since birth to gather information about our surroundings.

John P. said, "What you see is what you get". Stan claims that with using the proper visual set up, the body will follow. Getting your eyes in the correct place to pocket a ball is the system goal and should be expanded upon. Not trivialized with a blanket statement to throw off possible future users.

When you're wrong, you're wrong. If you don't want to take the time to productively explore the system like LAMas, AtLarge, John Pierce, and many others are doing, don't negatively try to throw a wrench in the threads. Contribute (that means move things forward) or sit back and watch. You're a big boy. Now go ahead and line by line and attack this post by adding nothing. SOP. LOL It's so easy to tell other people how uninformed they are because you're Patrick Friggin' Johnson, The Professor, A Big Deal On AZB. You're the man behind the curtain. I get it.

Best,
Mike
 
Mikjary:
Getting your eyes in the correct place to pocket a ball is the system goal and should be expanded upon. Not trivialized with a blanket statement to throw off possible future users.
Yet here's another hundred-word post in which you b!tched and moaned but somehow, inexplicably, yet again, never quite got around to "expanding on" it.

What an incredible coincidence.

pj
chgo
 
Yet here's another hundred-word post in which you b!tched and moaned but somehow, inexplicably, yet again, never quite got around to "expanding on" it.

What an incredible coincidence.

pj
chgo

You guys know if we just put this guy on ignore he mostly will snap! and throw his computer through a window if he cant be involved in these cte threads. Its not like his opinion or knowledge is worth anything in these threads...just an idea im throwing out there :)
 
Naysayers' ship is going down, down, down.

LOL You mean there are other people reading this sh...debate? Keep pushing the intelligence button and now it's the out of control button. You'd make some lucky guy a wonderful ex-wife. Did you filter the gist out of my last post or are you still stuck on "feel"?

Since there are allegedly other viewers reading this NONSENSE, I would like to hear if they "feel" that the alignment adjustments in pivot systems are solely "feel". I don't think so. That's too broad stroke an analogy for me.

Cte uses a distinct set of visual cues to set up the proper alignment for each shot. This is a definite physical process and produces the answer for each shot angle. Calling it "feel" is a poor substitute for a highly developed method we have developed since birth to gather information about our surroundings.

John P. said, "What you see is what you get". Stan claims that with using the proper visual set up, the body will follow. Getting your eyes in the correct place to pocket a ball is the system goal and should be expanded upon. Not trivialized with a blanket statement to throw off possible future users.

When you're wrong, you're wrong. If you don't want to take the time to productively explore the system like LAMas, AtLarge, John Pierce, and many others are doing, don't negatively try to throw a wrench in the threads. Contribute (that means move things forward) or sit back and watch. You're a big boy. Now go ahead and line by line and attack this post by adding nothing. SOP. LOL It's so easy to tell other people how uninformed they are because you're Patrick Friggin' Johnson, The Professor, A Big Deal On AZB. You're the man behind the curtain. I get it.

Best,
Mike

Unfortunately or fortunately, Patrick friggin Johnson is on a sinking naysayer ship.

You have to admire his tenacity. He will go down with the ship like any good captain.

JoeyA
 
The really sad part is that some posters have read his posts on other topics, and have rightfully given him respect for them. Unfortunately, his posts on this topic are complete B.S. Occasionally he brings up a valid question, but refuses to hear the answer, the answer has to be what he wants it to be, not reality. Plus, he gets some kind of satisfaction out of being contrary and trollish. His main goal is not to help people improve their game, but to gain attention at any cost.

I said this before, he is at a point now that if he was to gain anymore knowledge or go deeper in this discussion about cte/pro1, he would have to concede. He knows this and he knows if he stays on this FEEL opinion and in the unknown and not move forward into this discussion he will be able to save his dignity and will not be known as the biggest laughingstock this board has ever seen. Even Hitler had his followers.
 
Yet here's another hundred-word post in which you b!tched and moaned but somehow, inexplicably, yet again, never quite got around to "expanding on" it.

What an incredible coincidence.

pj
chgo

The incredible coincidence is that you cherry picked through my post and still didn't understand my hidden :wink: meaning. I am expanding on the subject. I gave what I thought was the possible ground work for a look see into the facts on the visuals in Cte. This can also be expanded into all methods of aiming. I'm posting this because I would like input from others. Not to lecture, Professori.

Keep pushing the buttons, Mr. Master Debator. LOL Any input or have I lost you here? What does a flashing yellow light mean? Slow down. OK. Whaaat doooes aaaa flaaashiiiing yeeeellooooow liiiight meeeeean?

Best,
Mike
 
The really sad part is that some posters have read his posts on other topics, and have rightfully given him respect for them. Unfortunately, his posts on this topic are complete B.S. Occasionally he brings up a valid question, but refuses to hear the answer, the answer has to be what he wants it to be, not reality. Plus, he gets some kind of satisfaction out of being contrary and trollish. His main goal is not to help people improve their game, but to gain attention at any cost.

Then when you call him out on his moronic logic and bs he simply puts you on ignore because he doesn't have an answer for you.
 
i dont understand how cte works when there a so many shots in pool where you only have about 1/2 the pocket to hit. Or worse yet have to hit rail first and carom off another ball.
 
This is for the naysayers,in this video here i pivot on every shot ,the system im using is a system i have come up .
I know in regular game play you dont just let the cb fly around the table as in this video. There is so much talk by you naysayers that pivoting cant be good.Tell me does it take me long to find the aiming line?Am i very accurate?
Can you make these shots as fast and accurate as shown in the video?
Im not saying this is a exact system and its going to make me a world beater but if one finds away in improving his shot making should he not stick with it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlTkZFC0ao

Please dont come back with well you know you got to make adjustment for this and that because i already know .
why is it if someone pivot"s there always wrong for doing so?
 
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