Cue Ball Compatibility

[FeelDaShot]

I recently purchased a set of Aramith Super Pros and it came with the Measles Cue Ball which I'm having a hard time adjusting to. It feels like I have to force the cue ball around the table extra hard for some reason. I assume it's heavier than the Red Circle but I'm not sure.

Anyways, I'm planning to go back to using my Red Circle that I'm most comfortable with. But it got me thinking, is the Red Circle totally compatible with the Super Pros? Or are there only a specific few cue balls that are compatible with the Super Pros? I don't want to create some type of mismatched set with a ball weight imbalance or some other miscellaneous compatibility issue.

I don't see the Measles Ball in most tournaments, what do they usually replace it with?

I believe the Super Aramith Pro Cue Ball (red Aramith logo) is similar to the Red Circle so I'm thinking about buying one of these. If needed...

Let me know what you think, thanks!

 

[philly]

I recently purchased a set of Aramith Super Pros and it came with the measles cue ball which I'm having a hard time adjusting to. It feels like I have to force the cue ball around the table extra hard for some reason. I assume it's heavier than the red circle but I'm not sure.

Anyways, I'm planning to go back to using my red circle that I'm most comfortable with. But it got me thinking, is the red circle totally compatible with the Super Pros? Or are there only a specific few cue balls that are compatible with the Super Pros? I don't want to create some type of mismatched set with a ball weight imbalance or some other miscellaneous compatibility issue.

Let me know what you think, thanks!

Pretty sure if you weigh them they will be about the same weight.
Don't know for sure but it would be a good start in seeing if the measle ball is heavier.
I'm thinking it is just a problem of perception.
Could be just in your head.
Pool players can be like that sometimes.
I played a year and a half at home using a measle ball and switched to a red dot about six months ago.
Can't say that I notice a difference.

 

[mrpiper]

I like the measles ball. The only cue ball I have personally played that I just do not like is the 90's Era Blue Circle Centennial. I have the red measles ball by Aramith, the black one from the Tournament Black set, and the Black Triangle one from the Arcos II set. I can not tell any difference among them or my red circles which I also play. I like the visual of the measles but it could be a distraction I suppose. I can't really see it when I am shooting, but it helps me see what my opponent is doing when it's their turn and I can learn from that. If my head is down and still on the shot I should not notice the spin visual. My personal favorite is the Arcos ball. It seems to have the hardest surface and stays clean longer than the others but that is just my personal experience. Many here disagree.

 

[rexus31]

Here's some data I've compiled on the sets I own as well as various cue balls. Of the examples I have, the Red Circle is lighter than the Measle Ball by 1g which is insignificant and within BCA spec for weight variance. I highly doubt you would feel a 1g difference while playing. Most of the sets below have a 1-2g weight variance between the cue ball supplied with the set and the object balls. Any cue ball can be used with any set so long as the weight variance isn't more than 2g on average with the object balls.

 

[KMRUNOUT]

A cueball should be the same size, weight, and composition as the object balls. The measle ball may or may not be. If it is old, then it is probably the super Aramith resin. If it is newer (last 3 years say), then it is surely the Duramith resin (same as the Tournament set). Still a very close match to the Super Aramith set. The closest match would be the red logo Aramith cueball that comes with the super Aramith set. The red circle ball doesn’t belong with any set. It is certainly a different composition. It is the correct size. I’ve seen red circle balls weigh as little as 5.7-5.8 Oz. That’s too little. Some I’ve seen closer to 6.
My recommendation is to leave the 80’s and 90’s behind with the red circle ball, and become comfortable with the modern equipment. If you have a real measle ball, it plays FINE with the super Aramith set. If you’re used to a gaff ball like the red circle, the measle ball will *feel* heavy, even though it isn’t. I’d learn that cueball.

KMRUNOUT


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[Black-Balled]

I presume youare playing at home...

Take that which troubles you and shove it down your throat until it no longer bothers you.

Make yourself play ONLY with that measle ball for a month or three. But don't put it in your mouth. You'll smile at the memory of it ever giving you fits.

 

[Willowbrook Wolfy]

Honestly I feel the same way. I wonder if it has to do with the extra dots. Maybe us that feel this way are actually putting less spin on the ball unintentionally due to not seeing the “normal” cb in front of us and wanting to hit the white part or something. I’m going to test them both out side by side tonight since it sounds kind of interesting now, and I have nothing better to do. I’ve only tried out the measles for a few days. Mine holds onto chalk more than the aramith logo in use now. That was why it got switched out.

 

[FeelDaShot]

Update, I reached out to Aramith directly, see below:

My Questions:
What are the weight differences between the following cue balls:
1. Super Aramith Pro Cup (aka Measles Ball)
2. Super Aramith Pro (aka Red Logo Ball)
3. Aramith Red Circle

I recently bought a set of Aramith Super Pro balls and I'm considering changing the cue ball. Are all three cue balls fully compatible with this set?


Aramith's Answers:
All cue balls can be used with the Super Aramith Pro set.
The Super Aramith Pro and Pro-Cup cue balls are made with the same Aramith resin as the set, while the Super Aramith cue ball with red circle is made with a specific Aramith resin used in high end carom sets, and is prefered by some players.
While still within the same specifications, the red circle is 1 gram lighter than the Super Aramith Pro or Pro-Cup cue balls.

 

[rexus31]

The first three listed in the data below are the three Aramith Cue Balls I have access to. I suppose you can ad the Predator Arcos II cue ball to the mix as Saluc manufactures those for Predator. Any phenolic cue ball can be used with any phenolic ball set so long as the cue ball is within 1-2g (on average) of the object balls. Below is a link to ball set weights including cue balls.

Pool Ball Weights

I was bored today so I weighed some of the ball sets I have for comparison purposes. About the sets at time of weight: Aramith Tournament Set: Brand new, used a few times Brunswick Centennial Set 1: Brand new, used a few times Brunswick Centennial Set 2: Older, well used Brunswick Centennial...

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[hang-the-9]

I recently purchased a set of Aramith Super Pros and it came with the Measles Cue Ball which I'm having a hard time adjusting to. It feels like I have to force the cue ball around the table extra hard for some reason. I assume it's heavier than the Red Circle but I'm not sure.

Anyways, I'm planning to go back to using my Red Circle that I'm most comfortable with. But it got me thinking, is the Red Circle totally compatible with the Super Pros? Or are there only a specific few cue balls that are compatible with the Super Pros? I don't want to create some type of mismatched set with a ball weight imbalance or some other miscellaneous compatibility issue.

I don't see the Measles Ball in most tournaments, what do they usually replace it with?

I believe the Super Aramith Pro Cue Ball (red Aramith logo) is similar to the Red Circle so I'm thinking about buying one of these. If needed...

Let me know what you think, thanks!

If you are used to playing with the lighter cueballs that come with cheaper ball sets, yes it's harder to move the ball around compared to that. When a friend of mine bought the highest end Tournament Aramith set and brought it to a pool hall, no-one wanted to use it while gambling with us because it was harder to move the cueball around vs the older and cheaper sets they had. The two of us practiced getting a good stroke and action so had a lot less issues with it. It's pretty much just practice and using a lot of different equipment to get the feel of what needs to be adjusted.