Cue ball control on cut shots

[justadub]

Thanks once again for the suggestions, folks.

What I was struggling to describe was best addressed by Bob Jewett. And I actually think I made a little progress with it, enough that I understand what I need to do to make it work. Actually doing it properly and consistently is a whole other matter, of course, but I have the idea now.

AZB really is a great asset. You folks are great. Thanks.

 

[Bob Jewett]

... What I was struggling to describe was best addressed by Bob Jewett. And I actually think I made a little progress with it, enough that I understand what I need to do to make it work. ...

If it was the slow, maximum draw shot situation, here is something else you can try: wax the cue ball. This will (temporarily) greatly increase your ability to kill the cue ball in the open table (when you can't use cushions). It is surprising how softly you can hit the cue ball and still retain draw/stun to the object ball.

 

[Ralph Kramden]

first one must understand the difference between brain knowledge and arm knowledge.. your brain can know the right answer instantly from the word go.. but if your arm can't pull it off it's useless knowledge

the way I see it... cut angle and cb control .. is a basic fundamental truth about pool... you need to own the tangent line/stop shot line and until you do the answer will elude you because while angle is always repeatable... speed and spin are slaves to distance and playing conditions

you need to own the stop shot line!!!
only then are you prepared to practice repeatable shots over a range of angles with the full spectrum of spins.. from dead straight in.. to thin cut....and shoot them over and over again..

once you do that you come to grips with many truths that the talkers never understand..

the straighter the shot is the more important spin is in the CB's final destination

the thinner the cut is the more important speed is in the CB's final destination

the half ball hit allows you the widest range of options using various amounts of spin vs speed to create the most possible destinations for the CB

that's all the brain knowledge you need for CB control as it relates to cut shots

now go teach your arm how to do it.. I have a sweet drill I invented for this exact purpose and it has done wonders for my game..

I'll give it to you if you PM me with an honest promise to actually DO IT 1 hour a day 3 times a week for 2 weeks..

make me that promise and you will never need to ask this question again..

Very good quote sir! (bold print).... To find the stop shot line just stand behind the intended shot holding the cue
horizontal. Look over the cue so the OB is just visible. Your cue will point to where the stunned CB ball will go.

 

[BilliardsAbout]

Very good quote sir! (bold print).... To find the stop shot line just stand behind the intended shot holding the cue
perpendicular. Look over the cue so the OB is just visible. Your cue will point to where the stunned CB ball will go.

Remember also, that tangent line will be for the cue ball's "front" edge and not its center...

 

[Ralph Kramden]

Remember also, that tangent line will be for the cue ball's "front" edge and not its center...

Yes it is.. and it's also the exact OB contact aiming point.

I call it the Stun Line Aim Point. The OB contact point to pocket
the ball, and the SLAP for the CB, are exactly the same aim spot.

 

[ENGLISH!]

first one must understand the difference between brain knowledge and arm knowledge.. your brain can know the right answer instantly from the word go.. but if your arm can't pull it off it's useless knowledge

the way I see it... cut angle and cb control .. is a basic fundamental truth about pool... you need to own the tangent line/stop shot line and until you do the answer will elude you because while angle is always repeatable... speed and spin are slaves to distance and playing conditions

you need to own the stop shot line!!!

only then are you prepared to practice repeatable shots over a range of angles with the full spectrum of spins.. from dead straight in.. to thin cut....and shoot them over and over again..

once you do that you come to grips with many truths that the talkers never understand..

the straighter the shot is the more important spin is in the CB's final destination

the thinner the cut is the more important speed is in the CB's final destination

the half ball hit allows you the widest range of options using various amounts of spin vs speed to create the most possible destinations for the CB

that's all the brain knowledge you need for CB control as it relates to cut shots

now go teach your arm how to do it.. I have a sweet drill I invented for this exact purpose and it has done wonders for my game..

I'll give it to you if you PM me with an honest promise to actually DO IT 1 hour a day 3 times a week for 2 weeks..

make me that promise and you will never need to ask this question again..

Well stated & worth re-reading.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Very good quote sir! (bold print).... To find the stop shot line just stand behind the intended shot holding the cue
perpendicular. Look over the cue so the OB is just visible. Your cue will point to where the stunned CB ball will go.

When I need to check that line, I do it from the front of the shot. It saves time & that is the side from which I will be actaully shooting the shot. To each his own. Whatever works best for each individual.

Regards,

 

[Ralph Kramden]

When I need to check that line, I do it from the front of the shot. It saves time & that is the side from which I will be actaully shooting the shot. To each his own. Whatever works best for each individual.

Regards,

What I meant by saying behind the shot. Behind the OB to the pocket.

Hold the cue horizontal to the shot line to see the tangent/stun line. :sorry:

 

[ENGLISH!]

What I meant by saying behind the shot. Behind the OB to the pocket.

Hold the cue horizontal to the shot line to see the tangent/stun line. :sorry:

Okay, we totally agree. Just a differening of what the front side & behind side of a shot is. That was a simple & good clarification for all.

I'm probably the one on the wrong side. It has happened before. The ball, like a car is going in that direction. So if that is the front side of the car & ball, then the other side would be the back or behind side.

I just think of it differently because if looking at two object balls from the cue ball side, I would call the one closer to the pocket as being behind the one on the cue ball side, at least while they are stationary.

It can get a bit confusing trying to communicate things on a pool table within the english language.

Sorry, my bad.

Regards,