Cue Ball Question

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Bought a medium range set of Aramith balls a few months ago, and the cue ball has a chip in it from dropping on the floor. Have been trying to determine what kind of cue ball to replace it with, but all the opinions of shops I have visited are different. Set originally cost 79 bucks. Red dot, blue dot, measles, red circle? Really could stand some advice.
Joe H
 
the red circle is what i use/recommend. your CB doesn't have to match the set, unless you've got a weird diameter (i doubt that's possible).

-s
 
what's the difference between blue circle and red circle? I've used both...do they have different specs?
 
Schwinn said:
what's the difference between blue circle and red circle? I've used both...do they have different specs?
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Personally, I think the blue circle is heavier than the red circle....(at least it plays that way to me)

Hoewever, I have had people "swear" that the red circle is heavier than the blue circle.
 
All 2 1/4" aramiths are supposed to be 5 1/2 oz - 6oz. So I'd just try to pick up a basic 2 1/4" aramith cueball. If you balls don't have much wear they should still be within specs. The cueballs that go with the super pro set will be a better plastic material (probably harder than yours).

Terry
 
Red circle cue balls are the most common cue ball that I can see, and I paid about $12 for mine.

I also have a pro cup ball (measles) that I shoot at home with for $30, but if your cue ball is getting beat up, better stick with the $12 one!
 
I got into this debate briefly last week and came up with about 50 different threads (that's threads, not posts) going back and forth about different cueballs. Here's the deal:
Red circle, if made by Aramith, is the same size and weight, or just slightly lighter than OBs, but it holds spin better and stays cleaner better because it has a harder finish like carom balls. Some other red circles are lighter and/or smaller. Blue circle CBs are matched to Centennials in size, weight, and finish; these are favored by purists. Whereas red circles tend to draw better, blue circles tend to follow better. The red logo Aramith is matched to the Super Pro balls so its probably very similar to the Blue Circle, but its hard to tell since these are not as popular. The measeles CB has apparently been rereleased in a slightly different version from the original, but I can't tell you exactly what the difference is since I wasn't really ever considering spending $30 for a CB. My guess is that this is the same as the red logo Aramith CB except it has five red dots so you can see the spin better.
If you want to spend a week reading about this, I can send you links to all the threads.
 
Measels ball

Buy the measels ball...you will like the way it rolls....
 
BRKNRUN said:
Personally, I think the blue circle is heavier than the red circle....(at least it plays that way to me)

Hoewever, I have had people "swear" that the red circle is heavier than the blue circle.
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i feel like i'm almost an expert on this subject. we had an analytical balance at my lab in school, and i would go in and weigh cueballs. the scale read out to 5 decimal places (the thing probably cost like 5K).

anyway, blue circles are quite a bit heavier than reds. the reason people swear the opposite is you can play with a old, worn blue circle (old, worn balls weigh less because each time they strike another ball electrons are being rubbed off) and that blue circle will play lighter than a new non-worn red circle. the only other explination is if someone played with some weird off brand blue or red circle, who knows how much those weigh.
 
Red Dots "circles" are the only cue balls I use. I carry a few of them in my pool case with me incase where ever I play doesn't have them.

Red Dot is the exact same size and weight as an Object ball is, assuming you're using a set of atleast super aramith pool balls.

Blue dots and everything else weight more and spin less....

Thats simple...
 
Jedi V Man said:
Red Dots "circles" are the only cue balls I use. I carry a few of them in my pool case with me incase where ever I play doesn't have them.

Red Dot is the exact same size and weight as an Object ball is, assuming you're using a set of atleast super aramith pool balls.

Blue dots and everything else weight more and spin less....

Thats simple...
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Like he said, nobody complains about a red circle
 
BRKNRUN said:
Personally, I think the blue circle is heavier than the red circle....(at least it plays that way to me)

Hoewever, I have had people "swear" that the red circle is heavier than the blue circle.
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It's because there are two red circle cue balls. One is the Pro Circle ball, made from carom resin according to Saluc. The other is an imposter. Putting them side by side, you see the difference. The imposter is less translucent. The carom resin supposedly makes the Pro Cirle cueball bounce differently.

The red dot cueball on the other hand is the heaviest regular diameter cueball with normal resin.

Fred
 
quest said:
Bought a medium range set of Aramith balls a few months ago, and the cue ball has a chip in it from dropping on the floor. Have been trying to determine what kind of cue ball to replace it with, but all the opinions of shops I have visited are different. Set originally cost 79 bucks. Red dot, blue dot, measles, red circle? Really could stand some advice.
Joe H
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I bought a set of Vigma Balls .and like them very much. They are only $119 and the set includes a cueball that has blue measles (smaller than the red measled Aramith) which draws much better than the Aramith red dot. Plus they really look cool......and are rounder than the Aramith balls.

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To answer your question directly, I once had a cheap 4x8 table and the plastic pockets had tiny nails holding them in to the wood. A cheap set of Aramith balls chipped like crazy. I bought the Pro series and the problem went away. I also covered the nails with some electricians tape. How your ball got chipped I don't know, but I would recommend one thing. Throw the cheapass balls into the trash can. You can go out and buy the measles ball (which I would recommend if you insist on going this route), but sooner or later another of your cheap balls is going to chip, and then where you be?

So you are left with buying the expensive set of Aramiths balls or the Vigma balls. I have no financial interest in the Vigma balls. I can only tell you that they play just like the Aramiths. Good luck, WW
 
Consideration

I think the red circle is lighter myself. Something else to consider is what type of cue ball will be used in most of the tournaments you play in.
If you play with a red circle, and then go to tournamnts that use a heavier
cur ball, you will see your performance go down overall because you are used to a lighter cue ball and will not have the control of a heavier ball.

Personally, we shoot mostly with the Arimith pro logo ball around here, and I like it.
 
I hate the Aramith Pro Logo ball.

On my league we carry our own Red Dots to use as it's the standard cue ball.

Shoot with a Red Dot and then shoot using an Object ball, you will not feel a difference. With ANY other cue ball you will feel a difference....
 
I would like to thank all of you for the advice and opinions. I went out this morning and bought a set of Super Aramith Pro balls (not the tv model). This set has the aramith symbol on the cue ball. I spent most of the afternoon practicing, and am well satisfied with their performance. The only cue ball that in by belief behaves just like the new cue ball is the measles ball. They both draw and follow and rebound similarly. But neither of them draw as easly as the red circle ball. I thank all of you for the help. It got me back on the table again.
 
Jedi V Man said:
Red Dots "circles" are the only cue balls I use. I carry a few of them in my pool case with me incase where ever I play doesn't have them.

Red Dot is the exact same size and weight as an Object ball is, assuming you're using a set of atleast super aramith pool balls.

Blue dots and everything else weight more and spin less....

Thats simple...
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Excuse me! A red dot has a dot. A red circle has a circle.. Which do you mean?? There are genuine red circles and fake red cicles. There are regular weight red dots but there are also extra heavy red dots for some old coin ops And I don't mean big ball, I mean heavy to trip a spring loaded cue ball return door
We weigh and measured a brand new Real red circle and a brand new measel. The red circle was 10 thousands smaller and a touch ligter.
 
One question (sorta related). In a 9 ball tournament one of the better players kept complaining about the blue dot cueball from the Centennials. He insisted that the next tournament he is bringing his own cue ball. If you were going to play against him, would you use his cue ball or the one from the hall? I had no problem with the cue ball so if it bugged him that bad I figured it was to my advantage just to use the house cue ball. Thoughts?
 
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