Cue ball weight and balance point effect on squirt / deflection

[naji]

Just to be clear, I did not say that cue balance has an effect on squirt. I DID say that cue balance CAN have an effect on stroking straight and hitting the cb where you want to.

As Bob said, can you show any tests relating to your claims on squirt? All the other tests that have been done show basically the opposite of what you are claiming.

For the regular cues the weight distribution is close to uniform and effective mass/weight is at center from bridge hand to tip, agree some tip ferrules are heaver by ounces, some make the front of cue hallow, and some type of wood are heavier than others; but to over come most of the squirt, one would have an extra long bridge, it would suggest a heavier effective weight, with this weight moving you have momentum, and what complicate things, using tight bridge, or loose
Thanks to the poster who cut and pasted the article from BD.

 

[CJ Wiley]

Skids also tend to occur off slow rolled balls.

Learn to cut all balls in with natural rolling top center cue ball. This cueing allows the cue ball to roll naturally ''immediately''. This is your baseline. Yrs' ago I did a confrence with Allison at the BCA trade show, and when someone asked her a similar question, it was her same response. You need to first learn to make balls this way to begin getting a feel of cue ball speed. Once thats in place your ready to move on. When a pro looks at a shot he ALWAYS would rather shoot a natural rolling ball to get shape than any other type of cueing, why, its the highest percentage shot because its natural and you can get control/feel and develop muscle memory of cue ball speed allot quicker.

We'll have to agree to disagree on your statements about using a "natural rolling ball".

Slow (natural) rolling the cue ball is not something I would ever advice, and neither would any pro I've been around that gambles. Maybe on perfect, tournament conditions someone can get away with this, but not in a pool room with worn cloth. And if the table rolls off slightly you're really in trouble.

Skids also tend to occur off slow rolled balls. Overall I'd prefer my opponents do this, however, I wouldn't bet on anyone (including myself) that consistently slow rolls balls. The best way to play is with a consistent cue speed (imho), Buddy Hall was great at this and so are most of the Filipino players, they're used to playing on slower, imperfect conditions.

 

[Island Drive]

We'll have to agree to disagree on your statements about using a "natural rolling ball".

Slow (natural) rolling the cue ball is not something I would ever advice, and neither would any pro I've been around that gambles. Maybe on perfect, tournament conditions someone can get away with this, but not in a pool room with worn cloth. And if the table rolls off slightly you're really in trouble.

Skids also tend to occur off slow rolled balls. Overall I'd prefer my opponents do this, however, I wouldn't bet on anyone (including myself) that consistently slow rolls balls. The best way to play is with a consistent cue speed (imho), Buddy Hall was great at this and so are most of the Filipino players, they're used to playing on slower, imperfect conditions.

I was not talking about a ''slow rolling'' cueball, that's different than just high rollin' whitey and cutting a ball in at 'speed' to develop the feel of the carom and then cue ball speed. Slow, changes everything, and usually not for the better.