Cue Collection???

[JimBo]

All the talk about collections makes me wonder.
What constitutes a collection?
When do you know you are a collector and not just a guy with a few cues?
Does value play into it?
What about these people who sell all their cues, are they just updating their collections or are they dealers?
What about dealers who have a few they just won't sell?
I happen to like theme collectors, like Marcus. What would it take for him to buy a cue other then one of Pete's?
What about a guy who buys only production cues?
Can you own 20 cuetechs and call yourself a collector?
What about Meucci's I happen to know more then a few meucci collectors and there are some very rare and valuable Meucci's believe it or not.
What if a person had 3 cues? Can he say he has a collection? What if he owned one very rare very valuable cue that he doesn't play with, is he a collector?
Does it matter how the person comes upon their cues, What if they have studied one maker for years and only buy his cues? What if they only buy ivory handle cues? What if they only buy cues from a certain era? Just butterfly splice cues? What if their daddy just buys them whatever they want to shut them up?

Webster says Collection 1) The act or process of collecting. 2) A group of objects or works to be seen, studied, or kept together. 3) An accumulation; deposit.4) the sum collected.

Now I know Marcus loves #2 (to be seen LOL) but what does everyone else consider a COLLECTION?

Jim

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

What Makes A Collection???????????

I Think Anyone That Has More Than One Cue, And Doesn't Have Them Strictly For Monetary Gain Would Be A Collector. I Know A Few Guys That Own Lots Of Cues That I Wouldn't Call Collectors. A Collection Has Some Kind Of Emotional Attachment To It. I Still Have All My Baseball Cards Too. I Guess I May Just Be To Easily Attached To Things.

In Response To A Few Things Jimbo Mentioned Above,

It Would Be Tough For Me To Buy A Cue That Isn't From Pete. I Haven't In A Long Time. There Are A Few Cues That Are Tempting But, I Like To Be Focused. I Gave Up Some Cues That I Regret Parting With Because I Wasnt' Focused.

And Second Thing,
Jim, I Dont Care If I'm Seen(my Collection) Or Not. I Just Feel It's A Shame Not To Share. It's Boring To Look At The Same Cues Over And Over Again, That's Why The First Place I Go Here On Az Is The Cue Gallery.

 

[Fred Agnir]

I Think Anyone That Has More Than One Cue, And Doesn't Have Them Strictly For Monetary Gain Would Be A Collector.

And I would add that the person bought the cue for some other reason other than to play with on a consistant basis.

Fred

 

[Matt_24]

What about these people who sell all their cues, are they just updating their collections or are they dealers?

- I think if they sell a cue in order to invest the proceeds into another cue for their collections - collectors. If they buy the cues to re-sale they are dealers. It is possible to be both.

What about dealers who have a few they just won't sell?

- Well then they are 'dealers' without any product, because what they won't sell become their collection. Right?

What about a guy who buys only production cues?

- Nothing wrong with that. Whatever makes you happy as a collector.

Can you own 20 cuetechs and call yourself a collector?

- I would say so.

What about Meucci's I happen to know more then a few meucci collectors and there are some very rare and valuable Meucci's believe it or not.

- I know a guy who has a NICE collection. He has a gorgeous TAD, Richard Blacks, Southwests, Szamboti, etc....and TONS of Meucci's and I honestly think he loves them more than the others. He is always showing off a new Meucci he bought. Again, whatever floats your boat. A collection is for the collector's enjoyment.

What if a person had 3 cues? Can he say he has a collection? What if he owned one very rare very valuable cue that he doesn't play with, is he a collector?

- If a person has 3 cues for the sole intent of playing with them then they remain, in effect, tools. I would not classify them as a collection. If he owns one rare cue without intent to buy anymore I still wouldn't call him a collector. A collector not only enjoys purchasing an item, but the THRILL of the chase and perhaps learning more about the history and lineage of whatever they collect.

Does it matter how the person comes upon their cues, What if they have studied one maker for years and only buy his cues?

- I don't think it matters. I think if you are collecting with limited funds it is good and financially achievable to have a specific focus for your collection.

What if their daddy just buys them whatever they want to shut them up?

- Wish my dad had pockets like those!

 

[JimBo]

And Second Thing,
Jim, I Dont Care If I'm Seen(my Collection) Or Not. I Just Feel It's A Shame Not To Share. It's Boring To Look At The Same Cues Over And Over Again, That's Why The First Place I Go Here On Az Is The Cue Gallery.[/COLOR]

I agree, I love to look at cues, you have a great collection, I wish I had some cues that were that nice. I just wish you'd number them so that when the lil short guy tells us his favs I can understand which ones he's talking about.

Jim

 

[JimBo]

- Wish my dad had pockets like those!

Me 2

Jim

 

[zeeder]

I believe I have a collection, albeit a very small one. I also plan on rotating my playing cue so that all of my cues get play. I don't know if that alters my being a collector or not...lol. I'm a wanna-be collector, perhaps I'll find me a sugar-mamma one of these days that will buy me all the cues I want just to shut me up!

 

[matthew staton]

All the talk about collections makes me wonder.
What constitutes a collection?
When do you know you are a collector and not just a guy with a few cues?
Does value play into it?
What about these people who sell all their cues, are they just updating their collections or are they dealers?
What about dealers who have a few they just won't sell?
I happen to like theme collectors, like Marcus. What would it take for him to buy a cue other then one of Pete's?
What about a guy who buys only production cues?
Can you own 20 cuetechs and call yourself a collector?
What about Meucci's I happen to know more then a few meucci collectors and there are some very rare and valuable Meucci's believe it or not.
What if a person had 3 cues? Can he say he has a collection? What if he owned one very rare very valuable cue that he doesn't play with, is he a collector?
Does it matter how the person comes upon their cues, What if they have studied one maker for years and only buy his cues? What if they only buy ivory handle cues? What if they only buy cues from a certain era? Just butterfly splice cues? What if their daddy just buys them whatever they want to shut them up?

Webster says Collection 1) The act or process of collecting. 2) A group of objects or works to be seen, studied, or kept together. 3) An accumulation; deposit.4) the sum collected.

Now I know Marcus loves #2 (to be seen LOL) but what does everyone else consider a COLLECTION?

Jim

LOL jimbo you think to much ....

 

[TATE]

All the talk about collections makes me wonder.
What constitutes a collection?
When do you know you are a collector and not just a guy with a few cues?
Jim

Jim,

I think of a collector as an enthusiast, a fan. It's more of a mentality and an attitude than actually just owning a bunch of cues.

I like it when it comes from the heart. It's a drive to find, own, and in many cases share with others similarly interested. A collector is basically a buyer,. not a seller. It's kind of a love, really.

My best friends are collectors.


Chris

Ps. I have nothing but respect for Meucci collectors. They turn over hundreds of Meucci's weekly on e-Bay and have a blast doing it. They know which cue was made where and when and can accurately identify hundreds of different designs. They really don't care who's bad mouthing their cues - they are having a good time and getting a lot of famous and unusual designs in the process. I have some pretty neat old Meucci's I have no intention of selling.

 

[Rich R.]

Can you own 20 cuetechs and call yourself a collector?

Today's trash is tomorrows treasure.

From a "collecting" standpoint, the initial value of an item doesn't mean that it will never be a valuable collectable. In fact, many things, of little initial value, have become highly collectable, because no one kept them and they are now rare.

For example, I was watching one of those collector type shows on PBS and they showed some plates that were originally give away items in grocery stores. Since no one took care of them and most of them are long gone, they are now rare and collectable.

Jimbo, my advise is for you to hold onto all of those Cuetech Cues that you have at home. They will be valuable some day.

 

[TATE]

is your collection on your web site or do you hide your collection from others like the top 10 collectors do?

Hi Jeff,

My site is actually not about showing my collection. I don't have my complete collection up on my site. I want to publish information which will help collectors identify cues, stimulate collecting as a hobby, and give others with my similar interests a "knowledge bank" to contribute to or draw from as they see fit.

I like to show nice examples of historic cues and try to collect facts on them for entertainment. It's fun. I get probably 20 e-mails a week inquiring about models, values, etc.

I try to help people as much as I can with what I do know. There's a lot I don't know and as time goes on I am learning more and more. There is a lot of mis-information out there too. Sometimes a notable source will mis-identify a cue or some work publicly, and that mistake is repeated by others down the line until it becomes a "wrong fact".

Some prominent names have seen my site and contributed by sending me e-mails. For example, I've received a couple of very nice e-mails from Barry Szamboti. He is sending me copies of receipts he found where his dad did some work for Palmer and billed them. He was very complimentary on the site, which made me feel really good. That made it all worthwhile.

I can certainly respect that others may not want their collections viewed for personal reasons, but it's a lot more interesting to show the cues and information, and I think it helps the hobby to do so.

It's a kick!

Chris

 

[Fred Agnir]

Jimbo, my advise is for you to hold onto all of those Cuetech Cues that you have at home. They will be valuable some day.

Damn it. I just traded my one and only Cuetech and my one and only Players for an old It's George 2/4 hard case. Did I get ripped off?

Fred

 

[Matt_24]

Ps. I have nothing but respect for Meucci collectors. They turn over hundreds of Meucci's weekly on e-Bay and have a blast doing it. They know which cue was made where and when and can accurately identify hundreds of different designs. They really don't care who's bad mouthing their cues - they are having a good time and getting a lot of famous and unusual designs in the process. I have some pretty neat old Meucci's I have no intention of selling.[/QUOTE]

Meucci's are pretty cool! I enjoy looking at Mad Mike's website. He is definitely a Meucci fanatic! A lot of good players played with Meucci's. Efren Reyes, Nick Varner, Jim Rempe, Buddy Hall, Mike Sigel (very briefly), Earl Strickland...the list goes on. A lot of World Championships have been won by a Meucci cue.

 

[JimBo]

LOL jimbo you think to much ....

And you not enough.

Jim

 

[Shorty]

I agree, I love to look at cues, you have a great collection, I wish I had some cues that were that nice. I just wish you'd number them so that when the lil short guy tells us his favs I can understand which ones he's talking about.

Jim

You rang?

Shorty

 

[bruin70]

All the talk about collections makes me wonder.
What constitutes a collection?
When do you know you are a collector,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Now I know Marcus loves #2 (to be seen LOL) but what does everyone else consider a COLLECTION?

Jim

a collection is bounded by taste. a collector can specialize in one cuemaker or in several. it doesn't matter. a collector sees intrinsic art in what he likes. but since taste varies, ie, not everyone has good taste, some collections blow big time.

 

[bruin70]

Hi Jeff,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

My site is actually not about showing my collection. I don't have my complete collection up on my site. I want to publish information which will help collectors identify cues,

It's a kick!

Chris

i won't show all my collection and have deleted one on this forum because of the proliferation of fakes.

 

[Purdman]

All the talk about collections makes me wonder.
What constitutes a collection?
When do you know you are a collector and not just a guy with a few cues?
Does value play into it?
What about these people who sell all their cues, are they just updating their collections or are they dealers?
What about dealers who have a few they just won't sell?
I happen to like theme collectors, like Marcus. What would it take for him to buy a cue other then one of Pete's?
What about a guy who buys only production cues?
Can you own 20 cuetechs and call yourself a collector?
What about Meucci's I happen to know more then a few meucci collectors and there are some very rare and valuable Meucci's believe it or not.
What if a person had 3 cues? Can he say he has a collection? What if he owned one very rare very valuable cue that he doesn't play with, is he a collector?
Does it matter how the person comes upon their cues, What if they have studied one maker for years and only buy his cues? What if they only buy ivory handle cues? What if they only buy cues from a certain era? Just butterfly splice cues? What if their daddy just buys them whatever they want to shut them up?

Webster says Collection 1) The act or process of collecting. 2) A group of objects or works to be seen, studied, or kept together. 3) An accumulation; deposit.4) the sum collected.

Now I know Marcus loves #2 (to be seen LOL) but what does everyone else consider a COLLECTION?

Jim

Jimbo, in my case, I look for deals in pool halls and pawn shops, cuemakers who could use some cash, and deals here on AZ. I have also purchased 11 cues from 1 cuemaker at 40% off. I have 2 of them left. I have paid retail for 1 cue in my life. That's my Kikel!!! I have 6 that are not for sale and 12 that are for sale. I guess I am a dealer and a collector. Now, where do you stand in the scheme of cue ownership, collectorship, and dealership??????????
Purdman

 

[classiccues]

Well I am just looking for a picture of a cue in this thread. This is the cue gallery, right?

Joe

 

[cueaddicts]

Well I am just looking for a picture of a cue in this thread. This is the cue gallery, right?

Joe

Joe, what would you know about collections.....you're not a collector ???