Cue Giveaway Poll

[X Breaker]

The cue givaway thread has been going on for over 8 pages. Several names have been mentioned. The most voted names are :TATE (Chris), Fast N Loose (Marcus), JIMBO (Jim), and Cornerman (Fred)

We are doing this to help J&D custom cue who has asked the members on this forum to pick the most suitable member(s) to review his cue and then post review and comment on this forum.

If you dont mind, I would like to respectfully ask everyone to please post all relevant discussion in the cue givaway thread, and please refrain from self promotion in this thread, as this is meant to be a poll to help J&D custom cue. Thank you very much.

Note:
1.You can only vote once, but you can vote for more than one person at the same time.
2.You cannot vote again after you have casted your vote.
3.If you want to vote "some of the above", you should also cast a vote to each of the candidate you want to vote.
4.If you vote "none of the above", please suggest a new candidate. If "none of the above" receives the most vote, we will then do a new poll with the names suggested.
5. If you vote "all of the above" you do not need to cast seperate votes.

 

[Varney Cues]

I think with the high number of people who agreed the cue should end up in the hands of Inzombiac after testing...its in very poor taste not to mention that as an option. Should I count? Come on Richard.

 

[Tokyo-dave]

I think he should give one to me. No, I haven't owned and/or played with every cue out there, so rather than for an evaluation point of view, think about the publicity point of view.
I live here in Japan where if the name gains popularity and we can get lucky to put his stamp of approval on it, he can sell his plain 4 pointers for more than $2,000 a shot!!!!
dave

 

[Varney Cues]

I counted 20 who agreed it should end up in Inzombiac's hands after testing. You didn't think that was a worthy poll option?

 

[X Breaker]

I think with the high number of people who agreed the cue should end up in the hands of Inzombiac after testing...its in very poor taste not to mention that as an option. Should I count? Come on Richard.

Mr. Varney,

I am doing a poll for who we think should be given the cue for an evaluation. From what I read, almost everyone agreed that the cue should be sent to one of the names mentioned, and that is what the poll was about. I picked the four names with the highest vote.

Some suggested to then give the cue to this person you have suggested after the cue has been evaluated, but that is to be done afterwards. Even by your own account, you counted 20 who are in support for sending this cue to your suggested member after "testing," which I must respectfully remind you, is suggested to happen after 1) the conclusion of this poll 2) the delivery of the cue to the chosen member(s) and 3) the completion of the testing of the cue. This poll is conducted so step (1) can be concluded in order for step (2) and (3) to proceed. You are now complaining about something that you suggested to happen after step (3) is completed.

I can sense that you really want this person you picked to have this cue plus one of your cue, but I need to respectfully remind you that it does not really have anything to do with this thread or this poll, which is about finding one of more than one knowledgable poster(s) whom the members here consider as most qualified to write a review for J&D cue.

After the vote was done, the voted candidate can then choose if he wants to donate the cue to the person you picked, which is a different process, and is not to be mixed up with the process of finding one or more than one knowledgable poster(s) to write a review for J&D cue.

Mr. Varney, if you do not think any of the names are qualified to write a review for J& D cue, or if you think your choice is more qualified than the four names mentioned, you can simply vote "none of the above". If "none of the above" receives the most votes, we can then start another poll. I am afraid I do not see how this process can be "poor taste" as you put it.

It is obvious from the response of the four candidates chosen, that no matter who wins this poll, the cue will very likely still end up in the hands of this person you picked, but that is a different process, which is independent of the objective of this poll.

Thank you.
Richard

 

[Hidy Ho]

I counted 20 who agreed it should end up in Inzombiac's hands after testing. You didn't think that was a worthy poll option?

It's not your frakking cue ... you nor anyone else except the cuemaker can decide to whom to give the cue. Why don't you start your own thread and give away as many cues as you want???

 

[Varney Cues]

Mr. Varney,



After the vote was done, the voted candidate can then choose if he wants to donate the cue to the person you picked

Thank you.
Richard

I don't see whats wrong with the "voted candidate" knowing the cue was to be sent to Inzombiac after testing. 20 members agree. I don't think it should be left up to the the "voted candidate" to choose.

 

[paulybatz]

What about??

what about having it be the traveling cue...like the books a few AZers have sent around, the cue starts with whoever then that person after a period of time and writing feedback sends it to the next AZer to the next on the list...etc

 

[Varney Cues]

It's not your frakking cue ... you nor anyone else except the cuemaker can decide to whom to give the cue. Why don't you start your own thread and give away as many cues as you want???

I give away plenty, to my church, my community, here on AZB, to the billiard community in general...don't you worry about that sir!!!

The cuemaker decided to leave it in the hands of the people...20 of them voiced opinions that the cue after testing should go to Inzombiac. I for one am going to man up and send him a free Varney regardless of whether he gets this cue or not. I simply thought it would be a nice Christmas gesture to send the cue to a kid in the service who at this current time can not buy his own, but is in love with the game. For some reason there are those of you that feel other wise. Richard feels its up to the chosen one to do with the cue as he pleases after testing...I feel this is the wrong choice....as I said, 20 members agree with me. The kid signed up to possibly give his life for this country & your freedom...he loves pool and plays off the wall. He looked to me to be the perfect owner of the cue after testing. I am actually shocked & amazed at the character of some people...well, I guess truthfully I'm not.
I want to personally thank all who voted for Inzombiac, THANK YOU! Some of us are trying to have a little Christmas spirit and do the right thing. Fear not Inzombiac...you at least have a new Varney coming and I know in my heart you'll truly appreciate it. In fact...I'll buy you a nice new case and ship the cue in it too. I'm a man of my word. Merry Christmas to Inzombiac and all of my loyal customers & friends.

 

[paulybatz]

Wonderful gesture!

Varney, that is really kind...there are not many people in the world that would do that!!!! Tap, Tap!!! Have a wonderful holiday and prosperous new year.
Paulybatz

 

[Hierovision]

I think the cue should go to Tate of course for a quality review, and then Inzombiac, as SO many others also believe. I also think the option of "TATE and then Inzombiac" should most definitely be an option on this poll. I'm voting for TATE, but I personally think EVERY option on there should be followed by "and then Inzombiac". I can pretty much guarantee there's nobody more deserving than he. I'm going to create another poll thread if this one isn't edited.

 

[Irish634]

I think I will refrain from voting as I suppose it really doesn't matter to me who gets the cue, as long as we get an honest evaluation and writeup of the cue on the forum. Which is what Jim wanted in the first place. There are some very reputable names floating around about this and I think that we will get an honest opinion about the cue and Jim's work from any of them.

Now, after the cue has been evaluated, giving the cue to any service member would be a wonderful gesture, as these men and women put themselves on the front lines so we can have silly discussions and arguments on this forum. So, I suppose I would say I am voting. I am voting that it gets donated to a service member. However, I presume that would be up to whoever wins the cue, as it was not in Jim's original post about requirements. Unless of course it's outlined later in the thread as I admittedly have not read the entire thing.

Good luck to Jim and J&D in getting your business off the ground and "pre"-congratulations to the winner of the cue, I for one look forward to reading the review and seeing the pictures.

Merry Christmas (or the politcally correct: Happy Holidays) to all,
Craig

 

[Inzombiac]

Please... if you guys want to give it to me afterwards, thats fine and I'd be ecstatic, but can we keep that to ourselves and people that should know? I mean, it kind of seems like its making people angry that I keep getting mentioned... and the last thing I want to do is piss people off on my favorite forums.

-Stew

 

[Irish634]

I give away plenty, to my church, my community, here on AZB, to the billiard community in general...don't you worry about that sir!!!

The cuemaker decided to leave it in the hands of the people...20 of them voiced opinions that the cue after testing should go to Inzombiac. I for one am going to man up and send him a free Varney regardless of whether he gets this cue or not. I simply thought it would be a nice Christmas gesture to send the cue to a kid in the service who at this current time can not buy his own, but is in love with the game. For some reason there are those of you that feel other wise. Richard feels its up to the chosen one to do with the cue as he pleases after testing...I feel this is the wrong choice....as I said, 20 members agree with me. The kid signed up to possibly give his life for this country & your freedom...he loves pool and plays off the wall. He looked to me to be the perfect owner of the cue after testing. I am actually shocked & amazed at the character of some people...well, I guess truthfully I'm not.
I want to personally thank all who voted for Inzombiac, THANK YOU! Some of us are trying to have a little Christmas spirit and do the right thing. Fear not Inzombiac...you at least have a new Varney coming and I know in my heart you'll truly appreciate it. In fact...I'll buy you a nice new case and ship the cue in it too. I'm a man of my word. Merry Christmas to Inzombiac and all of my loyal customers & friends.

Kevin,

As always, very nice gesture. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

Craig

 

[TATE]

Here's my suggestion.

The top three members here selected each try out the cue, inspect it, and give a report. It is sent to the winners in order of how they placed, for one week each maximum, the 2nd place person next for a week max, and 3rd place last.

I suggest we do the report it in a "blind" fashion, where all three release their confidential report in one thread (in the main section) on the same date and at the same time.

Then they can have point-counter point discussions on their observations, and answer any questions.

Maybe do a generic 19 ounce, 58", 12.75mm shaft.

Since this is basically a players cue, if I win I will get in stroke with the cue and videotape myself playing with this cue and giving a report on the performance. I'll probably use it in a match to see how I do with it under pressure. Maybe I'll go into a strange pool room try to hustle some cheap action with it.

Basically, the bottom line for me with any playing cue is, how well do I play with it?

I would compare it to how I do with my own cue and the results should be pretty clear. How the other posters handle their report is up to them.

Each of us in this poll needs another cue like a hole in the head. We can give it away to the most deserving person (kid) who really needs a cue.

Chris

 

[X Breaker]

Please... if you guys want to give it to me afterwards, thats fine and I'd be ecstatic, but can we keep that to ourselves and people that should know? I mean, it kind of seems like its making people angry that I keep getting mentioned... and the last thing I want to do is piss people off on my favorite forums.

-Stew

Hi Stew,

I hope you get the cue after it is being tested, I think either one of the four candiates will give you the cue after they are done with the testing.

This is a poll I started about who we think should do the testing of the cue, which is what J& D custom cue asked this forum to help him with.

Mr. Varney's repeated effort in suggesting about giving the cue to you after the testing, and about how he would donate a cue to you, although very admirable, is really irrelevent to the objective of this poll or this thread.

I believe we need to respect the winner's opinion on how he likes to handle the cue, because this cue does not belong to Mr. Varney. He has the right to make suggestion just like everyone else, and I am sure his suggestion will be entertained, and respected, in the same manner as the suggestions from other members.

From what I understand, most have expressed their willingness to send the cue to you after the testing, so this should not really have become an issue from what I can see.

On the other hand, I think we need to respect the winner's wishes if he decides to keep the cue he won from J&D cue. There is a chance the winner might really like this cue, and wants to make it his playing cue, or just to keep it for whatever reason.

J&D custom cue is asking our help to help his exposure, and to offer him feedback, I would suggest that we try to focus on this objective.

There is a thread in the main forum,( http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=49470&page=2 )when Mr. Varney has allegedly misrepresented his relationship, or lack thereof, with Mr. Kristi Carter (and may be Ms. Allison Fisher) and also Ms. Carter's supposed endorsement of his product, which according to Ms. Carter, never existed.

I hope this will not become another self promotion thread, as this was meant to be a poll to help J&D custom cue and nothing else.

May you have a safe and wonderful Christmas.

Richard

 

[cuetechasaurus]

I'm not just saying this because he is my friend, but TATE studies cues like it's a science. He is not only a very respected forum member, but a very respected PLAYER when he goes to a poolhall. That is no exaggeration. And that's why I hate drawing him in tournaments. In fact, it pisses me off whenever I draw him in a tournament. One time I punched the tournament director. Ok now I'm going too far. But yea TATE is the man when it comes to this stuff.

 

[Varney Cues]

There is a thread in the main forum,( http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=49470&page=2 )when Mr. Varney has allegedly misrepresented his relationship, or lack thereof, with Mr. Kristi Carter (and may be Ms. Allison Fisher) and also Ms. Carter's supposed endorsement of his product, which according to Ms. Carter, never existed.


Richard

Richard, you felt the need to come back to this post and edit it to add the above text? Your character is becoming more & more clear daily. Maybe you should go back & read my reply. I did no wrong or told no lie. I don't appreciate your attempt to drag my business down. At least I don't have to offer my customers a "turn in your old cue so they can have a chance at a decent one." You should get your facts straight before you spread crap.

 

[Hal]

I'm not just saying this because he is my friend, but TATE studies cues like it's a science. He is not only a very respected forum member, but a very respected PLAYER when he goes to a poolhall. That is no exaggeration. And that's why I hate drawing him in tournaments. In fact, it pisses me off whenever I draw him in a tournament. One time I punched the tournament director. Ok now I'm going too far. But yea TATE is the man when it comes to this stuff.

What a bad post! Bad rep for you!

 

[ribdoner]

. )when Mr. Varney has allegedly misrepresented his relationship, or lack thereof, with Mr. Kristi Carter



>>>>>>>I'm soooooo confused


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