Cue Giveaway Poll

Who should J&D give his cue to have it evaluated

  • TATE

    Votes: 45 40.5%

  • Fast n Loose

    Votes: 17 15.3%

  • JimBo

    Votes: 27 24.3%

  • Cornerman

    Votes: 13 11.7%

  • All of the above

    Votes: 9 8.1%

  • Some of the above (multiple votes allowed)

    Votes: 3 2.7%

  • None of the above

    Votes: 12 10.8%
  • Total voters
    111
j & d is going about his business ALL WRONG. if he doesn't know what he wants and relies of others to tell him, his future is bleak.

entrepreneurs, artists, craftmen, whoever, can look at other works for guidance and create with those goals in mind. they build on knowledge from those who know and from trial and error,,,and maybe, just maybe, they have an inner aesthetic to guide them as well and create their own niche.

what they don't need to do is ask the public for help. that's "creating"(and i use the term very loosely) by committee.

of a hundred pool players you will get a hundred ideas of what's good. so where does that land the cuemaker but back in square one,,,,,with a hundred thoughts about what a good cue is and no idea of how to choose what's best. and why??? because it requires a core ideal of cue aesthetic to make those choices in the first place.
 
bruin70 said:
j & d is going about his business ALL WRONG. if he doesn't know what he wants and relies of others to tell him, his future is bleak.

entrepreneurs, artists, craftmen, whoever, can look at other works for guidance and create with those goals in mind. they build on knowledge from those who know and from trial and error,,,and maybe, just maybe, they have an inner aesthetic to guide them as well and create their own niche.

what they don't need to do is ask the public for help. that's "creating"(and i use the term very loosely) by committee.

of a hundred pool players you will get a hundred ideas of what's good. so where does that land the cuemaker but back in square one,,,,,with a hundred thoughts about what a good cue is and no idea of how to choose what's best. and why??? because it requires a core ideal of cue aesthetic to make those choices in the first place.
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Bruin,

They aren't really asking. They want to get their cues into the hands of some of us to get a little buzz going and to validate their hard work because they think their cues are good but unknown.

It's also called "a publicity stunt". Up until a few days ago I never even heard of J and D, now I can't wait to get my hands on their mystery cue. And all of a sudden A-Z is abuzz with "who ARE these guys?" and we can't wait for a review of their cues. They could have spent $20,000 and not gotten as much advertising as they will right here.

We have controversy (Varney and Extreme), mystery (who will get the cue), intrigue (will Jimbo like it?), and a surprise ending.

It is not without risk. What if there are negative reviews on the cue? Remember the Skoda and the Yugo? DOA.

Just remember Bruin, every once in a while the little guy kicks the big guy's ass, just like UCLA did to us this year. Maybe it's J and D's turn.

Chris
 
TATE said:
We have controversy (Varney and Extreme), mystery (who will get the cue), intrigue (will Jimbo like it?), and a surprise ending.
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This forum is it's own creature :D Free advertising at the expense of the characters. It's worth it and oh so entertaining :o Sometimes sad, but always entertaining.
 
TATE said:
Bruin,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,every once in a while the little guy kicks the big guy's ass, just like UCLA did to us this year.

Chris
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uhhh,,,oh. well if you're going to put it THAT way.

btw,,,get used to it.:)
 
Rum Cake For Breakfast

I voted for Tate, but afterwards, I think the cue should be given to a youngster at the Orphan's Home that has and expects nothing for Christmas <insert other holiday Here> and then it will snow and bells will ring and James Stewart's ghost will stop by and there will be cookies and milk and everyone will tear up and feel Special.....
Doug
 
Varney Cues said:
I counted 20 who agreed it should end up in Inzombiac's hands after testing. You didn't think that was a worthy poll option?
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VARNEY,
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OTHERS ON THE LIST, BUT I WILL SAY ,THAT IF THE CUE GETS SENT TO ME TO TEST. THAT IT WOULD GO TO INZOMBIAC WHEN THE EVALUATION WAS OVER.

I WOULD ALSO SAY, IN MY OPINION, THAT ALL THE OTHER GUYS ON THE LIST WOULD DO THE SAME. MAYBE THEY'LL CHIME IN AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE CUE WHEN THEY ARE FINISHED WITH IT.
 
To all,

Thanx to all for the input and voting. It was very appreciated and helpful.
Thanx to Xbreaker for the poll.
We are waiting for Mike (CaptianHook) to chime in with the count.
Thanx again,
Jim
 
Right!!!!!!!!!

Looks like x-breaker is the new sheriff in town an moderator an chief
instigator an no it all dominate duck. I'd be interested just to meet you
at DCC an shake your hand where I could tell people that I had once
meet Richard the great master of the universe an creator of the sub-contracted famous x-breaker. Their are probably 1,000 people pulling
for Inzombiac, Varney is only one of a multitude. I'm so sure J&D will
be able to reach a decision that best suits their business interests
just as you would. I know people have little spats thats only human
nature. What ever differences you an Varney have I'm sure in the long run you all will be able to work out,also. If I've said anything that infuriates
you all I can tell you is get over it. My opinion of you is you are a
master of traveling spam nothing else.
Pinocchio
 
Jazz!!!!

I'm in the central time zone I've still got 22 mins. to go beserk.
Then i'll transform into mild mannered senior citizen.
Pinocchio
 
I sent Jim over at J&D a PM with some of the great ideas you guys have.
We should be able to let everyone know soon. :)
 
I would have liked to have seen bogey53411's name up on the poll instead of mine.

Would it be a crazy suggestion to have two cues made? One goes to TATE, the other goes to JimBo or Marcus.

Should it even be said that none of these guys have any intentions of keeping the cue?

Fred <~~~ voted for TATE
 
Cornerman said:
I would have liked to have seen bogey53411's name up on the poll instead of mine.

Would it be a crazy suggestion to have two cues made? One goes to TATE, the other goes to JimBo or Marcus.

Should it even be said that none of these guys have any intentions of keeping the cue?

Fred <~~~ voted for TATE
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Hi Fred,

I agree, we should all get our hands on the "Mighty Mystery Cue". I have sent a suggestion to everyone via personal e-mail.

The main thing is to give J and D a fair evaluation. I think a "blind test" where each of us releases our results at the same time in the same thread (to avoid biasing each other) is the way to go.

I think it's also very important to have different points of views from experienced players with different styles who have used a number of different cues.

Then maybe J and D can give it away to a member here who needs a playing cue.

Chris
 
A quick recap...

For those just tuning in....

1. For publicity, a cuemaker offers up a cue to be reviewed by a knowledgable AZ'er
2. A simple poll is conducted to see who is the most knowledgable/appropriate member to conduct the review (TATE is streets ahead)
3. An AZ'er jumps in an demands the cue go to a serviceman, forgetting that the point of the cue giveaway is to get an impartial review
4. The poller reminds the AZ'er that logically the review needs to happen before the serviceman can get the cue
5. The poller is berated by the AZ'er (who in the meantime has offered to make the serviceman a free cue) for doing what was asked of him
6. The AZ'er lambasts the poller's character; they fight about each other's character and the original intention of the giveaway is lost somewhere in amongst some pompous online bravado...

...just another AZ Christmas, I guess!
 
arcticmonkey said:
For those just tuning in....

1. For publicity, a cuemaker offers up a cue to be reviewed by a knowledgable AZ'er
2. A simple poll is conducted to see who is the most knowledgable/appropriate member to conduct the review (TATE is streets ahead)
3. An AZ'er jumps in an demands the cue go to a serviceman, forgetting that the point of the cue giveaway is to get an impartial review
4. The poller reminds the AZ'er that logically the review needs to happen before the serviceman can get the cue
5. The poller is berated by the AZ'er (who in the meantime has offered to make the serviceman a free cue) for doing what was asked of him
6. The AZ'er lambasts the poller's character; they fight about each other's character and the original intention of the giveaway is lost somewhere in amongst some pompous online bravado...

...just another AZ Christmas, I guess!
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The original intention is on track, The cue will first go to Tate for his evaluation, then a few others will pass it along to each other.

After the evaluations are posted we will pick a winner to keep the cue.:)

:D
 
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