CUE PICTURES including Keith McCready's cue

JimBo said:

Nope, it's not "Timmy" I don't have the time you do, I'm not on here reading every thread. This one was pointed out to me in a PM because I was mentioned. If Mr. Scruggs copied Ernie it's wrong, no matter how many times you continue to try and fool people into believing I have a double standard it'll never float, I've always been consistent. I never saw the other copy, but I don't have to, my stance is always the same and very clear, stealing designs is wrong.

Jim <------Always consistent

Ahh so your boyfriend now clues you in when you are "mentioned". It's funny how he doesn't, or you "miss" cues that are blatant copies when it involves certain people. You can claim your non-double standard as far as the idea, but come time to dole out equal harrassment that is another story altogether. Yes, very consistent...

JimBo said:
Yes it is, because he owns the design and if it's his design he can have every cuemaker do it, I know people who do that. Not like your crooked boss who steals Gus designs and then finds cuemakers who will do it cheap for him. But of course the SIMPLE COMMON SENSE answer is you can't steal what you already own.

Ahh.. the modus operandi stab at Mark. How nice.

JV (---CK shoot in three days... of course Jim, we'll call you when we need to test the billboard coverage required by a poster.
 
Worminator said:
"Always consistant"...

and redundant...;)


You are right, sad to say, but can't you understand why with so many people who can't seem to read what has been so clear. I think if people learned to read I'd be able to say things once and stand behind them. Of course with Joe it's personal and each time he feels he can throw out a new name and hint that I have some sort of secret double standard list.
I know most people see right through it, but I don't have that ability to let BS slide. Sorry.

Jim
 
classiccues said:
Ahh so your boyfriend now clues you in when you are "mentioned". It's funny how he doesn't, or you "miss" cues that are blatant copies when it involves certain people. You can claim your non-double standard as far as the idea, but come time to dole out equal harrassment that is another story altogether. Yes, very consistent...

I have more then 1 boyfriend here Joe, not sure which you are talking about. Care to mention names or do you want to stay consistent within yourself and just hint and beat around the bush. Have you ever thought of politics??



Ahh.. the modus operandi stab at Mark. How nice.

Figured I should throw it in since you post for the both of you,what with you guys being partners and all (LOL) plus since it's all true I can. Please make sure to let him know:-)

JV (---CK shoot in three days... of course Jim, we'll call you when we need to test the billboard coverage required by a poster.

I still love you Joe, even though you seem to get dumber with each post.
Work on your material also, that's just not that funny, I expect more from you.

Jim
 
Are there photos of a cue that Tim copied from Gina or is this an idiots way of drawing attention away from themself ?

Otis Cambell
 
Otis57 said:
Are there photos of a cue that Tim copied from Gina or is this an idiots way of drawing attention away from themself ?

Otis Cambell


Joe just tries to muddy the waters and create some controversy, I still have not seen a thread with a Scruggs copy of a Ginacue. You'll learn to ignore Joe, he posts an awefull lot without really saying much. He's never been good at having his own opinions of things, he just likes to attack other's opinions.

Jim
 
Worminator said:
"Always consistant"...

and redundant...;)
OUCH!
Consistant is not a word. :eek:
Jim spelled consistent correctly.
I wonder why consistent is misspelled so often.
 
Thanks Jimbo, I Thought that might be the case. I hope some of the cuemakers he is in bed with don't make a sudden stop, as there might be a foul smell.

Otis Cambell
 
JoeyInCali said:
OUCH!
Consistant is not a word. :eek:
Jim spelled consistent correctly.
I wonder why consistent is misspelled so often.

That's weird...because I used "quote" when replying to Jim's post and did not type it out!??? How did it change? Very strange indeed.

Anyway...my comment was "tongue in cheek", and not a jab on Jimbo. "Always consistent" just seems like a redundant phrase to me. I thought it was a bit funny, but you can tell I would starve as a comedian.
 
cueaddicts said:
Keith's got himself a gorgeous cue. It has an eerie similarity to a Tibbitts we use to own....

http://www.proficientbilliards.com/cues/DannyTibbits/index.htm

Sean

P.S. Don't ley Jimbo see it; he's liable to go nutz.

Sean,

It is, isn't it. I checked out the site/pictures. The colors are the same, but the diamonds are a different shape and size, and the spears in the butt sleeves are facing the same but spaced differently, and inlays are sharper. Customer sent me some pictures with cut and pasteing on the points and inlays so I didn't think he copied a particular cue. I had no (& have no intention) of copying Tibbitts work. I just looked in all 3 of the Blue Books since I don't know what his cues look like (have not seen any of his cues out here). Learned he is out of Georgia (I am a couple thousand miles away) and there were no pictures of this cue.

I would not copy a cue, post it on my website, and then point it out on this forum. I didn't need to sell it on my website. - it was paid for before it was built. I guess this just confirms my desire to just build what I like to build.

Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
 
Jack Madden said:
I guess this just confirms my desire to just build what I like to build.

Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com

Now Jack, there are some of us out here that like to design unique cues. Don't be put off on accepting customer's designs just because some people want a copy of another cue!
 
Jack Madden said:
Sean,

It is, isn't it. I checked out the site/pictures. The colors are the same, but the diamonds are a different shape and size, and the spears in the butt sleeves are facing the same but spaced differently, and inlays are sharper. Customer sent me some pictures with cut and pasteing on the points and inlays so I didn't think he copied a particular cue. I had no (& have no intention) of copying Tibbitts work. I just looked in all 3 of the Blue Books since I don't know what his cues look like (have not seen any of his cues out here). Learned he is out of Georgia (I am a couple thousand miles away) and there were no pictures of this cue.

I would not copy a cue, post it on my website, and then point it out on this forum. I didn't need to sell it on my website. - it was paid for before it was built. I guess this just confirms my desire to just build what I like to build.

Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com

Jack,

Hope you know that I am not insinuating that you knowingly copied the cue. That's certainly not the case, and no one has any reason to doubt you (as a matter of fact, all I have ever heard about you and your credibility is great things). The customer probably saw it, liked the design a lot, and simply commissioned it to be built that way...plain and simple. It does have some differences, but the design is extremely similar.

Is it cue design theft or isn't it? Maybe it is....maybe it isn't. Depends on where you stand on this issue. But....this brings me to a point that I have played devil's advocate on with respect to the CUE DESIGN THEFT issue in the past, and it pertains to cues with fairly simple inlay shapes and patterns such as are in this cue. When using simple or common design shapes (diamonds, dots, spears, what-have-you), it is possible for a cuemaker to unknowingly make a "copy" of another cue. I mean, it's a 3-dimensional tapered cylindrical shape....and there are a finite number of arrangements that can be done with these common shapes, sizes, etc. that result in an overall balanced design.

BTW, it's a beautiful cue.

Take care and good luck,
Sean
 
JimBo said:
Joe just tries to muddy the waters and create some controversy, I still have not seen a thread with a Scruggs copy of a Ginacue. You'll learn to ignore Joe, he posts an awefull lot without really saying much. He's never been good at having his own opinions of things, he just likes to attack other's opinions.

Jim

Here so you can look stupid... but making you look stupid is like making microwave popcorn, its just to easy.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=36306

Joe
 
JimBo said:
Figured I should throw it in since you post for the both of you,what with you guys being partners and all (LOL) plus since it's all true I can. Please make sure to let him know:-)

I still love you Joe, even though you seem to get dumber with each post.
Work on your material also, that's just not that funny, I expect more from you.

Jim

I will ask you again to show where I ever insinuated that him and I were partners. Everytime, at least 30-50 times now you made this accusation and again I am asking you to show where it was said. If you cannot show it, STFU already, no one cares. Why your so jealous is beyond me. So how many times have you e-mailed the guy with the Bushka photo avatar? Wanna cry some more?

When I see you jump and start slinging your cues design theft garbage in a thread that specifically shows something made by one of your cherished cuegods, I will believe it. Redundant you are, you always miss the oppertunity when its someone you don't want to call out.

JV
 
Otis57 said:
Where Is The Gina cue That this is copied from ? Maybe you are going to assume that Cornerstones information is Correct ?

Otis Cambell

First I would never assume anything is correct coming from cornerstone, second I am not going to do the leg work. It was posted on AZ as an ebay auction and if its less than 90 days you can find it for yourself. I have seen it and it would classify as Jim's loosely vague and everchanging parameters of cue design theft.

JV
 
classiccues said:
First I would never assume anything is correct coming from cornerstone, second I am not going to do the leg work. It was posted on AZ as an ebay auction and if its less than 90 days you can find it for yourself. I have seen it and it would classify as Jim's loosely vague and everchanging parameters of cue design theft.

JV
There is no way, a Gina cue that resembles this Cue. I don't even believe that it is a copy of a cue owned by Ed Kelly. If you are going to post these stories in order to slam someone, then you should do the leg work to confirm the truth.

Otis
 
Otis57 said:
There is no way, a Gina cue that resembles this Cue. I don't even believe that it is a copy of a cue owned by Ed Kelly. If you are going to post these stories in order to slam someone, then you should do the leg work to confirm the truth.

Otis


THE SCRUGGS PICTURED IN CORNERSTONES THREAD IS CERTAINLY A COPY OF A GINACUE (BILL EVEN STATES THAT IN HIS DESCRIPTION OF THE SCRUGGS) THAT WAS MADE FOR ED KELLY.

IT'S NOT A 100% COPY, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY BASED ON THE ORIGINAL GINA DESIGN, THAT COINCEDENTLY SOLD RECENTLY ON EBAY. I SEARCHED EBAY FOR THE GINA, BUT IT HAS BEEN REMOVED, BUT IT WAS CERTAINLY THERE AT ONE POINT. (I MAY DRINK ALOT, BUT I AM SURE THAT THE GINA WAS LISTED THERE ABOUT 2-3 WEEKS AGO.)

IT WAS STATED IN THE AUCTION THAT IT WAS THE FIRST BOX STYLE CUE EVER MADE. SO I GUESS THAT WOULD MEAN THAT EVERY BOX STYLE CUE SINCE THEN COULD BE CONSIDERED A LOOSE COPY.
 
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Otis57 said:
There is no way, a Gina cue that resembles this Cue. I don't even believe that it is a copy of a cue owned by Ed Kelly. If you are going to post these stories in order to slam someone, then you should do the leg work to confirm the truth.

Otis

Otis,
I don't know who you are nor does it concern me. Other people here have seen it as you can see in the above post. When someone starts "confirming" the crap they say about me, I will do the same. Not only is it still on ebay (completed), the link in AZ is still active.

JV
 
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Otis57 said:
There is no way, a Gina cue that resembles this Cue. I don't even believe that it is a copy of a cue owned by Ed Kelly. If you are going to post these stories in order to slam someone, then you should do the leg work to confirm the truth.

Otis


Otis you are wasting your time, Joe isn't going to prove anything, he posted a link of a cue and claims it'll make me look bad. How it'll make me look bad I have no idea, if that cue pictured is a copy my stance is it is wrong, no matter who made it. Of course Joe misses that point and somehow feels he made me look bad. Whatever makes him happy.

Jim
 
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