Cue Ratings by brand ??

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How would you rate cue brands ?? For example - Entry Level/ Beginner (Players, Mizerak, Scorpion), Intermediate - (Lucasi ??), Advanced (Meucci ??)

Can someobody complete this list ??

I heard that Omega Cues have been selling like hotcakes recently. How would you rate these cues in terms of hit and construction against the rest ??
 
I'd take a Lucasi over a Meucci any day.

Beginner - cheap-mid production (cuetec, viper, McDermott, players, some Lucasi) $25-$300
Intermediate - Nice production/entry custom (Joss, Schon, Eurowest, Coker, etc) $300-750
Advanced - mid-high end custom (Bender, Southwest, Scruggs, Weston, Josswest, Eurowest, Richard Black, Cog, etc) $1000-infinity and beyond
 
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1pRoscoe said:
I'd take a Lucasi over a Meucci any day.

Beginner - cheap-mid production (cuetec, viper, McDermott, players, some Lucasi) $25-$300
Intermediate - Nice production/entry custom (Joss, Schon, Eurowest, Coker, etc) $300-750
Advanced - mid-high end custom (Bender, Southwest, Scruggs, Weston, Josswest, Eurowest, Richard Black, Cog, etc) $1000-infinity and beyond
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In the beginning u r a (players cue fan )$40-110
then u get Intermediated ( shon, joss, my b a cheap custom cue from somebody u have no clue who thay r ) $110 300
Then u get a Advaced pool lover n player now u have hit the "big time baby" (Gilberts ,Murreull,Prather.customs only.Blacks.DP,Dan dashawn) And the list can go on $350 - up to 10.000 ..The now u r BROKE but u have a nice cues that sit in the house and all u wanta play with is a old sneaky pete u found i a pawn shop. :) :) :)
NOW u jus have to love this crazy game we can pool...
 
I think the cue you select has more to do with your disposable income as opposed to your skill level. Take my case... I shot quite a bit back in my college days but then went cold-turkey for almost 10 years. Then at the start of this year, the pool-bug bit me with a vengence. I tried shooting again with my late-80's Meucci original but no longer liked the way it hit. I quickly dropped $1k on a nice Schon just a few months ago, and now I'm ready to drop $2k+ on a custom made Szamboti style cue with all the works. However, I'm no better at running the table... I still stumble on certain no-brainer shots :D
 
He asked how I would rate cue brands in relation to skill. I still haven't really seen a C-D player with a Scruggs or Southwest....

You're correct though, income usually correlates as well, however, not always....
 
xunkn0vvnx said:
How would you rate cue brands ?? I heard that Omega Cues have been selling like hotcakes recently. How would you rate these cues in terms of hit and construction against the rest ??
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there are as many different brands out there as there are members on AZ,,,& about that many different opinions,,,,read and study up on different woods, manufacturing processes, etc......if you're trying to find a consensus on brands, this "ain't" the place (don't think that place even exists)

disagreements over cues could start a 'flame thread' that might go on for months,,,,Mizerak, Mosconi, Omega, and the list goes on ,,,,these cues are for people who just want to own a cue (as in 12 year old males trying to impress their buddies, who know even less than they do about the game of pool)

some of these relatively new 'named' cues (including Omega) needed to never been sold to anybody,,,they fall in the Wal-Mart quality (which means NO quality) category,,,IMHO
 
DAM "" Can i hang with u, I was jus look at a new cue the other day And it would be nice if u can get it for me .see u'll drop 2k on a Cue??? :) :) .Now that is what i call a hero if u do .And trust me i'll run out all day with it too..
It's a Ken Murrell..Jus $1500..
send me a pm and we can talk more ... ;)
 
A friend of mine who worked in Japan for a while told me he saw some C players playing with SWs when he was at Tokyo. Those players had the money, but didn't really know how to play play. They bought the cues they could afford. I've also seen A or Pro players playing with $200 cues. I'd say the cue you play with coincide more with how much money you can spend on a cue, as you can make the same shots with a $400 cue, as you can with a $4000 cue.
 
deadstroke32 said:
DAM "" Can i hang with u, I was jus look at a new cue the other day And it would be nice if u can get it for me .see u'll drop 2k on a Cue??? :) :) .Now that is what i call a hero if u do .And trust me i'll run out all day with it too..
It's a Ken Murrell..Jus $1500..
send me a pm and we can talk more ... ;)
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look for a new toy ......
 
I think in a production cue schons are hard to beat. Have yet to find anyone that would say they are a bad cue, and most everyone seems to agree they are a good cue.
 
deadstroke32 said:
look for a new toy ......
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Dead,

I've shot with that very Murrell before. The red veneers are beautiful and it hits really nice. I play in a "D" league and I readily admit I am not a great player and the best run I've ever had is 12 minutes for 1 1/2 miles, haha.

With that said, I alternate my shooting between a Skip Weston and Omega/DPK. At home are a coupe of more cues. I appreciate a nice custom cue the way someone appreciates a Van Gogh or Warhol. I love that I can design a cue the way I want it from who I want. Everyone has different views on cues and different likes/dislikes. To each his own, just so long everyone enjoys the game. I know I do.
 
I started at the beginning of the year playing on the UPA Tour. So I guess I am a rookie on the pro tour, but I have been playing the local tours for years. The biggest difference in the cues that the pros play with and the cues that everyone else plays with is who pays for them. Don't look at a pro and try to corolate their cue to their skill level. At the UPA tournament in Pittsburgh, I heard Rob Saez say that if you ever have to buy another cue, you aren't good enough. Most pros are sponsored by a cue maker. As far as a person's pocket book goes... The more detailed a cue is the more expensive it is. Does it play any better??? NO. Does it look better??? Generally, yes. As a player gets better, they are willing to spend more money on quality equipment. Once a cue reaches a certain price, it's more about feel than quality. I would say just about any cue that has a pricetag of over $250 is a quality cue. Most cues hit differently. If you put a quality cue in the hands of a quality player, it doesn't matter what the cue looks like. Once you get up over that price range, you are paying for astetics. I have hit with $3,000 cues that look marvelous, but I didn't like how it hit. In that instance I wouldn't give you $300 for that cue. I have also hit with cues that cost $150 that I loved how it hit and I wouldn't sell it for $500. It's more about feel than putting a certain cue into any category based on price. Look at Earl Strickland and Allison Fisher. Both play with a $150 Cuetech. And there are only a handfull of people out there than can beat them.

Russell Killgo
 
Gremlin said:
I would say I own about 40 mistakes when it comes to cues but who cares they are income tax deductions if need be. :eek:
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Could you have your accountant call my accountant, I could use more deductions. ;) Better yet, who is your accountant?, mine is definitely, FIRED. :D

Tracy
 
RussellK said:
I started at the beginning of the year playing on the UPA Tour. So I guess I am a rookie on the pro tour, but I have been playing the local tours for years. The biggest difference in the cues that the pros play with and the cues that everyone else plays with is who pays for them. Don't look at a pro and try to corolate their cue to their skill level. At the UPA tournament in Pittsburgh, I heard Rob Saez say that if you ever have to buy another cue, you aren't good enough. Most pros are sponsored by a cue maker. As far as a person's pocket book goes... The more detailed a cue is the more expensive it is. Does it play any better??? NO. Does it look better??? Generally, yes. As a player gets better, they are willing to spend more money on quality equipment. Once a cue reaches a certain price, it's more about feel than quality. I would say just about any cue that has a pricetag of over $250 is a quality cue. Most cues hit differently. If you put a quality cue in the hands of a quality player, it doesn't matter what the cue looks like. Once you get up over that price range, you are paying for astetics. I have hit with $3,000 cues that look marvelous, but I didn't like how it hit. In that instance I wouldn't give you $300 for that cue. I have also hit with cues that cost $150 that I loved how it hit and I wouldn't sell it for $500. It's more about feel than putting a certain cue into any category based on price. Look at Earl Strickland and Allison Fisher. Both play with a $150 Cuetech. And there are only a handfull of people out there than can beat them.

Russell Killgo
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kind of off subject......i wonder if their cues are pretty much factory or seriously tweaked for them. I remember watching a match where earl had like.....5 cues, for all kinds of situations. Does anyone know if those are cuetec shafts on those cues? Im sure they are somewhat changed to match their personal preferences as to weight, length, action, etc....i just always wondered how much.
although i agree overall.....a great player is going to beat you with a house cue or a mophandle.
 
I think it's pretty obvious that the caliber of the cue doesn't necessarily reflect the owner's skill level, but it is a fairly good indicator of his wallet's size. :D
 
RussellK said:
Look at Earl Strickland and Allison Fisher. Both play with a $150 Cuetech. And there are only a handfull of people out there than can beat them.Russell Killgo
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there aint no way they were not
either hand picked or hand selected or hand built
 
From a Steve Mizerak cue at K-Mart to a Black Boar, It's all in what you want. I'm an Espiritu fan myself.
 
i think one thing to remember or think about in production cues is consistency
in the parts quality

the better the brand the fewer they turn out that are not good quality
i have seen (2) players cues with shaft wood worthy of a schon or southwest they were strait grain and about 20 growth rings were they seasoned like a schon I highly doubt it and ive seen several (dozen) that had crap for shaft wood

i retapered a mizerak that had a good shaft on it for a 14 year old that shoveled snow to buy it for 45 bucks and had some change to have a good ferrule and a good layered tip so for 65 dollars he had a cue i know for a fact shot better than most cues in the 100-$200 dollar range

In fact i think the 100-200 dollar range cues are a crap shoot
buy a dufferinn for $50 and spend 25 -50 more on a tip ferrule or spend
$ 300 on a decent joss or entry level custom
 
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