Cuemaker Ethics

Sherm Cue

I bought a Sherm cue last December and it plays and looks awesome. Just my opinion...
 
Magik Wandzzzzz said:
Hay, do any of you out there know what an OXYMORON izzzz ???

One example is when you join the words CUE MAKER with ETHICAL...now if the guy claims he BUILDS CUES rather than makes them, then you have a chance, that is of not having an oxymoron, just a chance.

One rule of thumb is that the farther away you are from your cue builder, the crummier the work will be. SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CUE BUILDER, don't call me up and think I can over the phone build you the perfect Magik Wandzzzz......we have to at least play a few games first, see what you can do against a decrepit 60 YEAR OLD MAN.......

But ETHICS and CUE BUILDING, well, please try not to use them in the same sentice {sp}---you will just be showing other what a fool you are.
cheers,
The Dieckmaniac, Builder Of Magic Wandzzzzz

Dennis, I have several things I would like to say reference your post, but I will abstain (for now at least). At first I thought maybe it best not to respond, but I don't think this should be ignored.

Your comments are not only untrue, but also in very, very poor taste! Very unbecoming of one that has been around for a few years!
 
I would like to add a name on here. I rarely see his name mentioned on this board and he is one of the nicest and most professional guys ever---Jim Buss. Those of you who are in the market for a new cue might want to give him a shot. He has a website, so if you google him I am sure it will come up.

kollegedave
 
BillYards said:
Ok... I will chime in on this...

Richard Black: I have owned 4 different RB's and they were all top notch cues and I have spoken to him and Ardis (his wife) numerous times on the phone and sent many e-mails and letters... and he always gave me great customer service and attention. I highly recommend his cues (they have an amazing hit!) and his service.

Scot Sherbine: I just got one cue restored and 3 shafts from other cues re-tipped and I must say that Scot produces flawless work from his shop. I had some difficulty contacting him at times, but other than that I give him two thumbs up.

The most amazing thing about Richard Black, is his records. He keeps immaculate records. Till the point of being obssessive. Show him one of his older unique 70s cues and he could tell u who he made it for and when.
 
TellsItLikeItIs said:
Dennis, I have several things I would like to say reference your post, but I will abstain (for now at least). At first I thought maybe it best not to respond, but I don't think this should be ignored.

Your comments are not only untrue, but also in very, very poor taste! Very unbecoming of one that has been around for a few years!

I have something I would like to say to Dennis and I WON'T abstain. Stop with the trail off zzzzzzzz's. Its really annoying.
 
kollegedave said:
I would like to add a name on here. I rarely see his name mentioned on this board and he is one of the nicest and most professional guys ever---Jim Buss. Those of you who are in the market for a new cue might want to give him a shot. He has a website, so if you google him I am sure it will come up.

kollegedave

I agree on the Jim Buss. Just tell u something he did for me. i ordered 2 cues made by Schrager and was promised 3 months. instead 3 years later it was still not ready. then Bert's health sort of deteriorated, and those cues lies in his workshop, untouched. the worst thing was the two cues were fully paid up, and when i asked for a refund, bert's wife says it wasnt possible as bert hasnt work for many months. Helpless.. i turned to Jim for help.
Jim drove down to Bert's shop, took the cues and finished them up in a month and sent them to me at no cost. that was a very nice touch.

My 2 cts on Sherm is that he has always had the reputation of being an honorable man. He tried to compensate u though i dont think he is obligated to. When those DCC cues were put up for sale at those obscene prices, it has to be expected that Sherm would received many PMs and i wouldnt be surprise his inbox went overloaded.
i've had a cue of his b4, and it was good work. And i dont think it make sense Sherm would throw out subpar cues to a public forum, where people are especially critical.
i think this matter should have been handled behind the scenes rather been dragged into a public forum where everyone has their 2 cts. Some ppl in forums only sole existence was to create flame wars or plain just cooking up stories.
this is also the reason why many cuemakers dont post on forums anymore, cos it aint worth it. i remember fond days in newsgroups when Richard Black, Thomas Wayne, Hercek etc used to post ...
 
kollegedave said:
I would like to add a name on here. I rarely see his name mentioned on this board and he is one of the nicest and most professional guys ever---Jim Buss. Those of you who are in the market for a new cue might want to give him a shot. He has a website, so if you google him I am sure it will come up.

kollegedave
I agree...We have been fortunate in that Jim's shop is two blocks from our pool room and is always helpful to offer information or help every time we ask. I see him at least 3 or 4 days every week and he is always a pleasure to talk to and always handy with any questions I have. His reputation in terms of quality work and honesty is unsurpassed. He has many times fixed flaws by other cuemakers at low costs to us. I highly recommend him for any custom work. Be prepared to wait a few months on cues though. He has a wait. You can visit his website at www.jimbuss.com I think is the address. I know my website www.cueandcushion.com has a link to his site on the CUES page. His brother George works with him and although not as well known as Jim still does quality cue repairs and manufacture. I have seen Jim destroy cues of his own that dont meet his expectations rather than have them go out at less than 100%. :)
 
daytonajoe said:
I was gonna let this slide but I have waited and waited and sent several PM's in reference and no response!!

A while back there was a cuemaker that posted some cues for sale here on the board. Several people, myself included responded. I have not gotten any response to my PM's and several of the buyers received defective/ shoddy workmanship cues and were told to either return them fore repair, or had their money refunded.

I am wondering why nobody has spoken up that did receive a cue, and commented on the results?

I am also wondering that although the cuemaker refered to my cue in a post, he has not responded to any PM's I have sent him?

This board and it's members deserve better treatment than this maker has given. I will not post his name here, unless others wish to pipe in.

On the other hand I need to commend those that deserve our support, or at least the ones I have had excellent dealings with...

Murray Tucker, Willie Cue, Divieney Cues, Joe Gold, Blud, Dave Jacoby, Jack Kopman, Jerry Rauzhauen, DZ, Bobby Jett, and John Collins and the gang @ Sterling

Please add to these comments so we can establish a list of those that Deserve our $$$$$

Support those that support the game and the playerz !!


Regards,
Joe

Also want to say in the 3 years of dealing with Dave Jacoby (as a St Louis Cue Dealer) I have never once had a problem. He has made 3 custom cues for me personally and always stands behind his work. He has gone above and beyond whenever there is a question about who is right or wrong about a situation. I also recommend Jacoby Custom Cues for anyone looking for great designs that stand out. Jeanette Lee, Melissa Little, Corey Deuel, Chris Szuter and many others play with Jacoby cues. (Corey's Woodpecker Cue Line is mfg by Jacoby) They have a nice selection of production cues, one of a kinds, Spliced and C&C cues. They arent afraid to customize any stock cue for you or even one from scratch. Highly recommend.
 
Sherm,

Thumbs up in how you handled this situation. It's unfortunate but not all buyers can be pleased. You were professional and ultra-accomodating in offering to make him another cue for the same price. Many would have just said to heck with it.

Sean
 
cueaddicts said:
Sherm,

Thumbs up in how you handled this situation. It's unfortunate but not all buyers can be pleased. You were professional and ultra-accomodating in offering to make him another cue for the same price. Many would have just said to heck with it.

Sean

plese explain how sending 3 or 4 warped cues with bad finishes is professional?

Hustla
 
9ballhustla said:
plese explain how sending 3 or 4 warped cues with bad finishes is professional?

Hustla


Hustla, my response is not in reference to those allegations. It was in reference to this person's original post and the particular situation involving him.

Sean
 
9ballhustla said:
plese explain how sending 3 or 4 warped cues with bad finishes is professional?

Hustla

Did you purchase a warped cue with a bad finish from sherm?
 
9ballhustla why dont u name the AZers that got warp cues from Sherm, or get them to stand up here, rather than make allegations that had not being backed up by any evidence?
 
cueaddicts said:
Hustla, my response is not in reference to those allegations. It was in reference to this person's original post and the particular situation involving him.

Sean


Sean,
I do appreciate your comments. I have no intentions of getting into a pissing match with someone so cowardly to take cheap shots, hiding behind an alias! That person had nothing to do with the cues, the purchases or anything else that I can tell, other than to knock me. I don't believe there were any people who were unhappy with the transaction. There were a couple of people who, for one reason or an other, did not like the cues and they were refunded their money immediately. Most of the cues found very happy homes! Unlike some people who post here I'm a firm believer in two things. 1) The Golden Rule (hopefully that doesn't have to be interpreted) 2) What goes around, comes around! I have a clear conscience! God Bless!


just more hot air!


Sherm >>> Never claimed to be perfect, but I do try to be fair and honest!
 
cuesmith said:
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Joe, I'm running a "ONE MAN SHOP"! Every thing that gets done has to be done by me. Every time the phone rings, I'm the one who stops what I'm doing and answers it. When someone has questions, or requests for pictures, or just wants to talk to a cuemaker via the internet or phone, I'm the one who has to make time to answer those. I'm also the one who has to order supplies, do design work in cad/cam programs, do repair work for locals who drop by at all hours (even though I clearly tell everyone to call for an appointment first) take passes on shaft wood, repair and modify machinery and even occasionally make some cues. I'll be the first to admit that it can be overwhelming at times, especially when you're a newly wed trying to have some kind of a life outside of the shop! If you think I'm doing all of this for the money, you haven't a clue about this business. I do it because I love the work, but I have to admit that it's getting harder and harder to make that statement, when I have to drop what I'm doing to defend my actions when a simple email or phone call would have gotten an answer.

just more hot air!
Sherm

Nicely put Sherm!
Only another cuemaker could fully understand some of the points you just made.
 
Magik Wandzzzzz said:
But ETHICS and CUE BUILDING, well, please try not to use them in the same sentice {sp}---you will just be showing other what a fool you are.
cheers,
The Dieckmaniac, Builder Of Magic Wandzzzzz

Thanks for your honesty ... but now who would want to deal with you?.
I do not share your opinion.
I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes because I believe in fair treatment and honest work.
 
kollegedave said:
I would like to add a name on here. I rarely see his name mentioned on this board and he is one of the nicest and most professional guys ever---Jim Buss. Those of you who are in the market for a new cue might want to give him a shot. He has a website, so if you google him I am sure it will come up.

kollegedave

I visited Jim Buss at his shop a year or so ago.
He is a nice guy and a top notch cuemaker.
 
WilleeCue said:
Thanks for your honesty ... but now who would want to deal with you?.
I do not share your opinion.
I guess that makes me a fool in your eyes because I believe in fair treatment and honest work.
http://www.cuemaker.com/
I guess nobody should go to his cue building school.:eek:
 
cuesmith said:
Sean,
I do appreciate your comments. I have no intentions of getting into a pissing match with someone so cowardly to take cheap shots, hiding behind an alias! That person had nothing to do with the cues, the purchases or anything else that I can tell, other than to knock me. I don't believe there were any people who were unhappy with the transaction. There were a couple of people who, for one reason or an other, did not like the cues and they were refunded their money immediately. Most of the cues found very happy homes! Unlike some people who post here I'm a firm believer in two things. 1) The Golden Rule (hopefully that doesn't have to be interpreted) 2) What goes around, comes around! I have a clear conscience! God Bless!


just more hot air!


Sherm >>> Never claimed to be perfect, but I do try to be fair and honest!


Tap, Tap, Tap..
 
WilleeCue said:
I visited Jim Buss at his shop a year or so ago.
He is a nice guy and a top notch cuemaker.

Willee...
Shoot a few coats of clear on your avatar... (and my Brunswick while you're at it) :)
 
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